Russia Invades Ukraine

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For any liberal who thinks Ukraine can win and wants to actually do something to help here’s the website to join the international legion. It’ll probably be a one way trip though.


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For any liberal who thinks Ukraine can win and wants to actually do something to help here’s the website to join the international legion. It’ll probably be a one way trip though.


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Why do that when we can just support them with equipment and funds
 

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Ukraine can decide when Ukraine wants to stop fighting.

Yes very consistently. They've advanced 25 miles in a year lol.

Most actual Ukrainians want the war to end. But they are currently under a dictatorship
 

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Why do that when we can just support them with equipment and funds
Well donate your paycheck then. But leave my money out of it. We’ve given them a ton of money at least the money not laundered to politicians and they’re still losing. Enough is enough.
 

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Well donate your paycheck then. But leave my money out of it. We’ve given them a ton of money at least the money not laundered to politicians and they’re still losing. Enough is enough.
No just invested into crypto so trump and elmo can make money
 

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Here’s where the current map stands. Unless Ukraine gets an influx of troops from outside their country getting Ukraine-Russia to the table would save much of Ukraine (except the more pro-Russian east) But for some reason midget Z wants to keep the war going and more money, he won’t even agree to a ceasefire) The irony is Trump would save them right now.
 

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Bunch of draft dodgers like trump
Continuing to point out irrelevant items about Trump doesn't change the argument to continue funding a war at the same levels. I don't like Trump either, but you make me want to put an ice pick through my skull with your tit for tat bullshit.

You either make a deal for peace or you have to provide even more powerful arms and potentially put boots on the ground to change the dynamics of the war. Ukraine is close to running out of men.
 
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Continuing to point out irrelevant items about Trump doesn't change the argument to continue funding a war at the same levels. I don't like Trump either, but you make me want to put an ice pick through my skull with your tit for tat bullshit.

You either make a deal for peace or you have to provide more even more powerful arms and potentially put boots on the ground to change the dynamics of the war. Ukraine is close to running out of men.

All the war porn addicts don't care. Money solves all problems, don't you understand?
 

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Invading Russians? Yes.

I hope they kill as many as possible.
They? Why don’t you go fight? I gave u the link they’ll take anyone. But we all know you’re a pussy who would never put his money where his mouth is. Your opinions are irrelevant.
 

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They? Why don’t you go fight? I gave u the link they’ll take anyone. But we all know you’re a pussy who would never put his money where his mouth is. Your opinions are irrelevant.
It's their country dumbass. Keep gargling Putin's balls.

Post some more Kremlin statistics.
 

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It's their country dumbass. Keep gargling Putin's balls.

Post some more Kremlin statistics.
You’re a dumbass. You have no intellectual replies. Shit I’ll pay for your one way ticket to Ukraine tough guy. But we all know u never would.

You’re just an internet tough guy wanting to send somebody else’s kid to fight for a Slav war.
 

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You’re a dumbass. You have no intellectual replies. Shit I’ll pay for your one way ticket to Ukraine tough guy. But we all know u never would.

You’re just an internet tough guy wanting to send somebody else’s kid to fight for a Slav war.
You questioning any other posters intelligence is hilarious.

I’m in favor of any country fighting for their own sovereignty. They’re capable of making their own decisions. They don’t need your patronizing fake sympathy.

Bonus points for every invader they kill weakening Russia’s future capabilities. America first baby!
 

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Continuing to point out irrelevant items about Trump doesn't change the argument to continue funding a war at the same levels. I don't like Trump either, but you make me want to put an ice pick through my skull with your tit for tat bullshit.

You either make a deal for peace or you have to provide even more powerful arms and potentially put boots on the ground to change the dynamics of the war. Ukraine is close to running out of men.
And North Korea is supplying men.
 

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You questioning any other posters intelligence is hilarious.

I’m in favor of any country fighting for their own sovereignty. They’re capable of making their own decisions. They don’t need your patronizing fake sympathy.

Bonus points for every invader they kill weakening Russia’s future capabilities. America first baby!
That's fine. Just because they want to fight doesn't mean we should be wasting funds for a useless endeavor.
 

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You questioning any other posters intelligence is hilarious.

I’m in favor of any country fighting for their own sovereignty. They’re capable of making their own decisions. They don’t need your patronizing fake sympathy.

Bonus points for every invader they kill weakening Russia’s future capabilities. America first baby!
Yeah. They need men who want to fight for them. You’re the man to do it! U can kill some Russians too!
 

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Invading Russians? Yes.

I hope they kill as many as possible.
I'm not defending Putin, so I don't want you, Toronto, Bua or Cal to take this the wrong way, but I feel for those Russian soldiers. Have you forgot how many got conscripted? How about the reports we saw where they were going home to home grabbing any able bodied male? You think they want to fight?
 

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That's fine. Just because they want to fight doesn't mean we should be wasting funds for a useless endeavor.
It’s not a waste. Russia is using farm equipment and prisoners at this point. Even if the war itself is completely futile the price it’s forcing Russia to pay is well worth our money. What better use could there be? We spend $850 billion dollars on defense annually. Crippling our second biggest adversary for a small portion of that is worth it.
 

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Ukraine can decide when Ukraine wants to stop fighting.

Yes very consistently. They've advanced 25 miles in a year lol.

Ukraine can decide, but the United States can make that decision pretty easy for them with a series of carrots and sticks.

And yes, it is a slog.
 

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It’s not a waste. Russia is using farm equipment and prisoners at this point. Even if the war itself is completely futile the price it’s forcing Russia to pay is well worth our money. What better use could there be? We spend $850 billion dollars on defense annually. Crippling our second biggest adversary for a small portion of that is worth it.
Which could come back and bite us in the ass if China or some other country actually tried to start something.

 

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I'm not defending Putin, so I don't want you, Toronto, Bua or Cal to take this the wrong way, but I feel for those Russian soldiers. Have you forgot how many got conscripted? How about the reports we saw where they were going home to home grabbing any able bodied male? You think they want to fight?
Rise up then. Or elect a new president (lol).

Sure on a case by case basis as a person it sucks. But I feel worse for the Ukrainians and would tell them they needed to surrender because of my sympathy for the Russian soldiers.
 

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Continuing to point out irrelevant items about Trump doesn't change the argument to continue funding a war at the same levels. I don't like Trump either, but you make me want to put an ice pick through my skull with your tit for tat bullshit.

You either make a deal for peace or you have to provide even more powerful arms and potentially put boots on the ground to change the dynamics of the war. Ukraine is close to running out of men.
Technically they have a whole tranche of guys they can conscript, 18-25 year olds. Who knows how many that is, I would bet a lot of them have fled or already joined. It's also a small demographic group.
 

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Which could come back and bite us in the ass if China or some other country actually tried to start something.

That has started to be addressed already, with additional munitions factories in Texas and Michigan. The Ukraine war has shown us the weaknesses the US military has.

Even a cheap Swedish sub was able to nearly destroy a carrier group during wargames a little while back.

The US needs to make a low cost fighter jet or start remaking the F22 in large numbers in case of a war with China. F23 isn't going to be mass produced during a war.
 
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