Russia Invades Ukraine

NorthDakota

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No I'm not, are you okay with the war crimes russia is committing against Ukraine?
Why are you changing the subject? For the record, I'm sure there is plenty of bad things that have happened there. Seen many videos that make you look away.

You actually said it's good that NATO did things in Libya. It 'was on the right side of history." But now you say you don't support what happened? Gonna need you to make up your mind on this.

Edit: this is why people lost faith in neoconservatism. Killing bad guys and lighting the world on fire is fun and all until you see what follows.
 

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Looks like Romania ain’t gonna let democracy go through till the right person gets in. Not surprising since nato built that beautiful military base in Romania right next to Russia. War mongers have too much at stake to lose.
 

NorthDakota

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JD Vance is such a pud




I don't blame zelensky for walking out without guarantees.


Rubio looking rightfully embarrassed.

Rubio has been on record that Zelensky is a liar. Beginning to notice a trend. Lindsay Graham, the OG Ukraine superfan, said his last decade of work went down the drain today and basically said Zelensky needs to be deposed.

So you got Trump, Vance, Graham, and Rubio pissed off. At some point, you might have to consider they might not be the problem here.
 

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Speaking of lies..like when we gave Ukraine assurances at Budapest but wouldn't give guarantees. Look where that got them. Good for zelensky holding out for guarantees this time.
 

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Rubio has been on record that Zelensky is a liar. Beginning to notice a trend. Lindsay Graham, the OG Ukraine superfan, said his last decade of work went down the drain today and basically said Zelensky needs to be deposed.

So you got Trump, Vance, Graham, and Rubio pissed off. At some point, you might have to consider they might not be the problem here.
Or the GOP is just a Trump mouthpiece at this point and Putin has videos of Trump getting peed on.
 

slick7410

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Speaking of lies..like when we gave Ukraine assurances at Budapest but wouldn't give guarantees. Look where that got them. Good for zelensky holding out for guarantees this time.
The problem is Zelensky thinks he can get guarantees.

He was told he has no cards, he is not negotiating anymore. He can accept terms, which are dictated to him. The viewpoint on what the war and U.S. involvement means under the current administration will need to be adjusted.
 

NorthDakota

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Speaking of lies..like when we gave Ukraine assurances at Budapest but wouldn't give guarantees. Look where that got them. Good for zelensky holding out for guarantees this time.
We gave them nothing, Bill Clinton said some nice words to avoid the creation of a black market for nuclear warheads.
 

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So the word is that Zelensky called Vance a fucking bitch to his face in Ukranian during this exchange. Totally unacceptable under any circumstances, if true.

No wonder they kicked his ass out.
 

slick7410

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I think Reddit is probably the echo chamber you’re looking for.

Regardless of anyone’s stance on Russian invasion; Ukraine was undeniably one of the most corrupt places in Europe. To their credit has improved some during wartime (maybe outside money coming in that doesn’t need to be grifted and bribed off the population). Ethics GTFO with that nonsense.
 
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