Rumored Violations

[kmoose]

How does my happiness have anything to do with this? You're making no sense and are just fighting to fight. You have a habbit of jumping down people's throats whenever they disagree or question ND, BK, etc. This seems no different.

I'm attacking an issue, not you personally. If you don't like it, put me on your block list and take my advice of agreeing to disagree.

I'm not fighting at all. And I don't always give people a hard time for questioning anything......... as long as they do so with some logic behind it. You have no logic for your whining about this, other than YOU are upset about it. There are 5 players who are in limbo, and they all have family. Only one player, and his family, have expressed any discontent with the situation. So don't try to make this like you are sticking up for the oppressed. You don't even have a clue that they are being oppressed. For all you know, the reason that the other 4 players and their families are silent, is because the players already have an idea of what their fate will be and 4 out of the 5 are taking responsibility for their actions, while one is bitching like a little girl. You encouraged people here to harass (your own word) the administration into some kind of action, so that you could have some closure. This is life, koonja, no matter how loudly you cry, no one owes you any closure! You suck it up, deal with it, and move on. Hopefully, you have people in your life that you can focus on, to help you swallow the disappointment. But quit coming to the internet, and crying like a little girl about how you want closure, you want action, you want this, you want that. Life doesn't work that way.

 

[aubeirish]

Michiguan is 1-2. Nice.

 

[koonja]

I'm not fighting at all. And I don't always give people a hard time for questioning anything......... as long as they do so with some logic behind it. You have no logic for your whining about this, other than YOU are upset about it. There are 5 players who are in limbo, and they all have family. Only one player, and his family, have expressed any discontent with the situation. So don't try to make this like you are sticking up for the oppressed. You don't even have a clue that they are being oppressed. For all you know, the reason that the other 4 players and their families are silent, is because the players already have an idea of what their fate will be and 4 out of the 5 are taking responsibility for their actions, while one is bitching like a little girl. You encouraged people here to harass (your own word) the administration into some kind of action, so that you could have some closure. This is life, koonja, no matter how loudly you cry, no one owes you any closure! You suck it up, deal with it, and move on. Hopefully, you have people in your life that you can focus on, to help you swallow the disappointment. But quit coming to the internet, and crying like a little girl about how you want closure, you want action, you want this, you want that. Life doesn't work that way.

Really? Ok, personal insults maybe a better term: "your whining, crying, and acting like a 16 year old girl. But that's ok, as long as your selfish emotional needs get the attention that cry for...."

False. I've (along with others) made many logical points as to why this is ridiculous for the 5 players and their teammates. Look through 193 pages if you need to, but don't throw shit at a wall just to see if it sticks.

Very mature with the continued insults. To your point, I've already argued that even if they're guilty, it maybe even worse handling. In that case, the students have been taking half a semester's worth of credits that likely will not count, due to required classes and prerequisites.

Partially true. I do want closure. For myself as a fan, for the football team, for Coach Kelly, for Notre Dame, for the 5 players and their teammates. Got a problem with that?

Agree. But it's not about me. It's about the above.

The rest of your post is just regurgitated personal dislike, so not worth a comment. Agree to disagree, hopefully you can leave it at that.

 

[Ndaccountant]

The impotent rage in this thread is palpatable.

 

[Irish YJ]

ND on ND fighting. Never good. Entertaining, but never good.

 

[Wild Bill]

How to handle it? Tell them not too cheat. This is DD's second incident. I am in no way defending ND, this is bullshit, but some perspective is needed here. We don't know all the facts, despite "sources".

I hope it works.

 

[johnnycando]

Who died and made you peacemaker? Go back to your old ways and disturb the peace.

Yeah I agree.

I got laid last night.

So now I'm grumpy again.

Let's fuck someone up...

 

[ThePiombino]

Is the tweet the problem or is it the underlying issue?

How is Kelly going to handle the situation with future recruits and their parents? Maybe he has a great explanation. Maybe he doesn't. That strikes me as more important than what another coach may say about the program.

Mom/Dad: We like ND, but we're concerned about what went down with the 5 students in 2014. How can we be sure that won't happen to our son?

BK: Can your son maintain AT LEAST bare minimum grades and not cheat?

Mom/Dad: Yes.

BK: Then this is a non-issue.

It's all about you, man. Fvck that you might be putting the entire site in jeopardy, if something crazy happened and you got charged with cyber-stalking, huh? As long as your delicate sensibilities are appeased...

I'm sure that I am not the only one that is tired of your whining, crying, and acting like a 16 year old girl. But that's ok, as long as your selfish emotional needs get the attention that cry for....

forget it.

Confirmed.

Players will have their hearings complete by the end of next week. Doesn't mean we will find out their fate by the end of next weekend though.

After all that has (hasn't?) gone down, how can you possible speak so declaratively?

Daniels dad may have a right to be upset but taking it public is not the best response. The university owes him an explanation as to where they are in the process. His tweet makes it appear that he is not being kept in the loop on where they are on the process, and if that's the case, the school probably should do a better job of that. With all that said, his son apparently put himself in the whole situation to begin with so he should be more upset with that than the process anyway.

edit: I been listening to Saban too long with all this process talk. Geez.

Nope. It doesn't owe him shit as per FERPA. WTF don't people get about this??

 

[Circa]

If I were DD jr and my father went on this type of rant regardless of my alleged guilt or innocence, I would have to ask him to please.. dad... Come ON! DD sr knows where he sent his son and knew through his years of wisdom where his son could end up when the job was finished. He's an embarrassment to the entire team as far as I'm concerned. If I were Kelly I would have a long profound conversation with jr if he was, and that's a big If, to be reinstated to the team.

Not many get the opportunity like DD jr has. He is up to the challenge on the field without a question, but the question will and always has been can he hack It in the classroom?

 

[Wild Bill]

Mom/Dad: We like ND, but we're concerned about what went down with the 5 students in 2014. How can we be sure that won't happen to our son?

BK: Can your son maintain AT LEAST bare minimum grades and not cheat?

Mom/Dad: Yes.

BK: Then this is a non-issue.

And what if we find out these guys didn't cheat?

 

[IrishFaninTX]

If I were DD jr and my father went on this type of rant regardless of my alleged guilt or innocence, I would have to ask him to please.. dad... Come ON! DD sr knows where he sent his son and knew through his years of wisdom where his son could end up when the job was finished. He's an embarrassment to the entire team as far as I'm concerned. If I were Kelly I would have a long profound conversation with jr if he was, and that's a big If, to be reinstated to the team.

Not many get the opportunity like DD jr has. He is up to the challenge on the field without a question, but the question will and always has been can he hack It in the classroom?

DD isn't a junior. His dad's name is Phillip. Otherwise I agree with you.

 

[Sherm Sticky]

Michiguan is 1-2. Nice.

Remember when Herbie and Desmond said they would go into the OSU game with one loss. Lmfao


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[Bubbles]

 

[johnnycando]

Without seeing the tweets I'm assuming he's wanting to force ND's hand... as a father I can't say I blame him

I so GD agree.

 

[DogDaysIrish]

I so GD agree.

Spot Aaron and Johnny... Spot on. Not a one of us would act any differently. And if say you wouldn't, I'm here to tell you you're full of $hit.

 

[johnnycando]

See, THAT'S the kind of shit that's going to be effective in negative recruiting against us. That tweet is irresponsible. When Urban spins some crap about how "Notre Dame doesn't care about their student athletes," it'll come off as sour grapes negative coachspin. When he can copy and paste a tweet from a kid's famous father, that's a tad more of a problem.

That's the truth though.

Negative recruiting or not.

ND is dragging ITS FUCKING FEET!!!

 

[Circa]

DD isn't a junior. His dad's name is Phillip. Otherwise I agree with you.

If Golson's dad did this last year.., 'since we have no real evidence of that situation either, we could call him jr too.. Parents can cause kids to be kids forever!

 

[koonja]

If I were DD, or Russel, or whoever and found not guilty... I'd request to have my number changed to zero and paint 'fucks given' over my last name.

 

[MNIrishman]

If I were DD, or Russel, or whoever and found not guilty... I'd request to have my number changed to zero and paint 'fucks given' over my last name.

Our uniforms don't have player names on them.

 

[johnnycando]

Our uniforms don't have player names on them.

Rought roh Koon.

 

[koonja]

Our uniforms don't have player names on them.

I know. I'd paint it where the name would be.

 

[johnnycando]

I know. I'd paint it where the name would be.

Atta boy Koon.

We're proud of you bubba.

Go win one for the Gipper.

 

[Bogtrotter07]

Three things.

To the "process" or "trust the process" camp; over a month after it has been investigated, word comes out that a committee is formed? Who doesn't see this for the piece of inept bullcrap it is? Isn't this "road-banner, negative recruiting" by the university itself?

COME TO ND - WHERE WE STILL BELIEVE IN LIMBO!

If it turns out any of these kids are not punished or outright cleared, the cork is going to pop out of this thing. If most or all are exonerated, why doesn't that mean ND will be in the same place that the UofM program is? I would expect far-reaching ramifications. Kind of like the husband that gets up and says, "Honey, the coffee sure is good. By the way I hate you and want a divorce." Some things just can't be put back together.

The longer this thing goes on, the "less" I think actually happened, if malice and politics are involved. Anyone dead to rights would have been history a long time ago. (And Kelly wouldn't be so irritated.)

 

[johnnycando]

Three things.

To the "process" or "trust the process" camp; over a month after it has been investigated, word comes out that a committee is formed? Who doesn't see this for the piece of inept bullcrap it is? Isn't this "road-banner, negative recruiting" by the university itself?

COME TO ND - WHERE WE STILL BELIEVE IN LIMBO!

If it turns out any of these kids are not punished or outright cleared, the cork is going to pop out of this thing. If most or all are exonerated, why doesn't that mean ND will be in the same place that the UofM program is? I would expect far-reaching ramifications. Kind of like the husband that gets up and says, "Honey, the coffee sure is good. By the way I hate you and want a divorce." Some things just can't be put back together.

The longer this thing goes on, the "less" I think actually happened, if malice and politics are involved. Anyone dead to rights would have been history a long time ago. (And Kelly wouldn't be so irritated.)

It's actually, what the devout Catholics, call "Purgatory."

Welcome to the beginning of the rest of your life.

Prove them wrong Bogs.

I know which side you belong.

 

[Irish Insanity]

I'm not fighting at all. And I don't always give people a hard time for questioning anything......... as long as they do so with some logic behind it. You have no logic for your whining about this, other than YOU are upset about it. There are 5 players who are in limbo, and they all have family. Only one player, and his family, have expressed any discontent with the situation. So don't try to make this like you are sticking up for the oppressed. You don't even have a clue that they are being oppressed. For all you know, the reason that the other 4 players and their families are silent, is because the players already have an idea of what their fate will be and 4 out of the 5 are taking responsibility for their actions, while one is bitching like a little girl. You encouraged people here to harass (your own word) the administration into some kind of action, so that you could have some closure. This is life, koonja, no matter how loudly you cry, no one owes you any closure! You suck it up, deal with it, and move on. Hopefully, you have people in your life that you can focus on, to help you swallow the disappointment. But quit coming to the internet, and crying like a little girl about how you want closure, you want action, you want this, you want that. Life doesn't work that way.

Thats almost this entire thread. Right? Just about everyone thats posted in it.

 

[johnnycando]

Let the record show, that KMoose is one of the members of the committe.

 

[Pachuco]

If I were DD, or Russel, or whoever and found not guilty... I'd request to have my number changed to zero and paint 'fucks given' over my last name.

Right, because these guys are only thinking about themselves.

If they are innocent, they likely just want to get back on the field with their team.

If vindication is due, it will find them back in the Blue and Gold.

 

[johnnycando]

Right, because these guys are only thinking about themselves.

If they are innocent, they likely just want to get back on the field with their team.

If vindication is due, it will find them back in the Blue and Gold.

Yeah I mean, what's a year to find out you're "innocent."

Or as sadists term, "not guilty." And then assumed, not enough evidence.

Bwahahahahahaha.

If the glove don't fit...

 

[Pachuco]

Yeah I mean, what's a year to find out you're "innocent."

Or as sadists term, "not guilty." And then assumed, not enough evidence.

Bwahahahahahaha.

If the glove don't fit...

You didn't hear? Decision by Stanford week.

 

[Irish#1]