RIP...

[IRISHDODGER]

Maybe an unpopular opinion but I hope not. Nobody doubts his talent and contribution to the game. He still committed one of the absolute cardinal sins of sports... and never fully accepted responsibility nor showed much contrition. If he'd admitted the truth early on, accepted full responsibility, and worked to make it right, he'd have been in 20 years ago. I loved watching him play and he was absolutely one of the best ever, but I hope he never gets inducted. There are consequences to actions.

i agree w/ most of what you posted here. I was always of the opinion that his sins were made as manager and never as a player. Consequently, I always thought the appropriate punishment was banishment from the game for life but induction into the HOF for his efforts on the field as a player.

He sounds like a phenomenal teammate but not a person of the highest of character off the field. If he had listened to Johnny Bench and just accepted full responsibility, he’d be in now. So that’s on him. RIP.

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

2024 gambling doesn't change what happened in the 80s, and it certainly doesn't erase over three decades of Pete Rose peddling his own grievance for his own gain versus honesty and remorse. He signed autographs for money down the street from the Cooperstown HOF.

He gave the game the finger, lied about it and then profited off of it. All that being said, I fully understand why there are legions of baseball fans from specific generations that want to see him in the HOF. It's ultimately a museum in the end. If he gets let in, it seems hypocritical to be punishing players for gambling in the present (one of whom received a lifetime ban).

I ultimately didn't want him to ever go in while he was alive. At this point, I don't really care. They'd better do it soon while anyone who was actually alive when he played and managed is still around because at some point nobody else is going to care either when all those guys are gone.

 

[Plankton]

Pete's gambling was the biggest controversy since the "Black Sox" World Series scandal in 1919 which ironically was against Cincinnati. Given how pro sports has now embraced betting, it's probably time to put Charlie Hustle in the HOF.

Keep in mind that players are still not allowed to gamble on the sport while playing it. Hypocritical? Yes, but it's still the rule.

 

[Irish#1]

Keep in mind that players are still not allowed to gamble on the sport while playing it. Hypocritical? Yes, but it's still the rule.

Agree. I can't see a day when they would allow it. My point was more that because they (sports in general) have embraced it to create a bigger audience some of the barrier is gone.

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

Tucupita Marcano gets lifetime MLB ban for betting on baseball

MLB has permanently banned Tucupita Marcano after determining that the infielder placed hundreds of bets on baseball, including wagers on games involving the Pirates when he was with the team last season.

www.espn.com

Their stance is pretty clear. June 2024.

 

[Irish#1]

Former American Pickers star Frank is gone. He was having health issues the last few years. RIP Frank.

'American Pickers' star Frank Fritz dies at 60

The History Channel figure was "a dreamer who was just as sensitive as he was funny," according to his "Pickers" partner, Mike Wolfe. Fritz had suffered a stroke in 2022.

www.nbcnews.com

 

[Irish#1]

The Grim Reaper is on the war path.

John Amos, veteran actor of 'Roots' and 'Good Times' fame, dies at 84

Amos, whose long career also included beloved roles in "Coming to America," "Die Hard 2" and “The West Wing,” died in August, his family said Tuesday.

www.nbcnews.com

RIP John.

 

[ulukinatme]

Former American Pickers star Frank is gone. He was having health issues the last few years. RIP Frank.

'American Pickers' star Frank Fritz dies at 60

The History Channel figure was "a dreamer who was just as sensitive as he was funny," according to his "Pickers" partner, Mike Wolfe. Fritz had suffered a stroke in 2022.

www.nbcnews.com

I know he had a fallout with Mike and A&E years ago, hope they reconciled before the end.

 

[ulukinatme]

You could argue that any Red game that he was a manager for that he didn't place a bet on was, in effect, Rose betting against the Reds. Or, sending the message to the gambling community that he didn't believe that they were winning that night.

Maybe. I suppose I'm a little bit jaded when it comes to sports betting. There are still rumors to this day that Jose Mesa threw the World Series for some cash which helped prolong the Cleveland Indians title drought. To me there's always the possibility that hinky stuff will happen in sports behind the scenes, so the idea of betting on sports to me seems silly. I've never really gone in on it, and if I did I couldn't be serious about it. For those reasons the whole Pete Rose thing is a nothing burger for me, especially if he was betting for his team and not against them. I'm just not a gambler though, I tend to play it safe with my cash.

 

[ulukinatme]

What a week. Ken Page, who was the voice of Oogie Boogie in Nightmare Before Christmas (Among other things) just passed away at 70. He's also known for the King Gator in All Dogs Go to Heaven, and Max Washington in Dreamgirls.

Ken Page, who starred in 'Cats' on Broadway and voiced Oogie Boogie, dies at 70

Ken Page, a stage and screen actor who starred alongside Beyoncé in “Dreamgirls,” introduced Broadway audiences to Old Deuteronomy in “Cats” and scared generations of kids as the voice of Oogie Boogie, the villain of the 1993 animated holiday film ”The Nightmare Before Christmas,″ has died.

apnews.com

 

[FU BK]

Good lord....reaper is on ot

 

[Sea Turtle]

John Amos said that he was invited to a lot of strange parties back in the day......requesting him to wear his Beast Master costume and staff.

 

[ulukinatme]

John Amos said that he was invited to a lot of strange parties back in the day......requesting him to wear his Beast Master costume and staff.

I knew there was something else I remember him from. He was also the father of the love interest and owner of the McDonalds rip off from Coming to America, Cleo McDowell.

 

[SeekNDestroy]

I knew there was something else I remember him from. He was also the father of the McDonalds rip off from Coming to America.

McDowells 😆

 

[ab2cmiller]

McDowells 😆

They use a sesame seed bun. Our buns have no seeds.

 

[Sea Turtle]

They use a sesame seed bun. Our buns have no seeds.

'Some people are here to see you.'

'Is it those people from MccDonalds again?'

 

[ulukinatme]

McDowells 😆

I had to go back to IMDB to remember the characters/chain's name lol

 

[NDWarrior]

R.I.P. John Amos John Amos, ‘Good Times’ Dad, Dies at 84

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

Luis Tiant, Boston Red Sox pitching legend, dies at 83

Boston Red Sox legend Luis Tiant, whose Major League Baseball career spanned 19 years, has died at 83 years old.

www.cbsnews.com

 

[IRISHDODGER]

Luis Tiant, Boston Red Sox pitching legend, dies at 83

Boston Red Sox legend Luis Tiant, whose Major League Baseball career spanned 19 years, has died at 83 years old.

www.cbsnews.com

 

[Irish#1]

Luis always had that crazy windup. IIRC, there was talk about him being older than reported when he was pitching. RIP Luis.

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

Charges Dropped Against 3 in Death of Liam Payne: What We Know

An appeals court dismissed charges against three people accused of negligence after the former One Direction singer fell from a third-floor hotel balcony. Two others still face charges in his death.

www.nytimes.com

Incredibly bizarre. 31 years young. SMH.

 

[INLaw]

Charges Dropped Against 3 in Death of Liam Payne: What We Know

An appeals court dismissed charges against three people accused of negligence after the former One Direction singer fell from a third-floor hotel balcony. Two others still face charges in his death.

www.nytimes.com

Incredibly bizarre. 31 years young. SMH.

My daughter is in mourning. I didn’t know who he was

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

My daughter is in mourning. I didn’t know who he was

My girls are 13, 12 and 9 so they were One Direction fans when they were very young. Harry Styles is obviously the most successful one solo, but these guys all seemed to be doing well on their own professionally.

Liam had some demons and had been in rehab in Louisiana at one point.

 

[Irish#1]

Iron Maiden front man Paul Dianno has passed. Only 66 years young.

https://www.newsnationnow.com/entertainment-news/paul-dianno-iron-maiden-lead-singer-dead/

 

[IRISHDODGER]

Iron Maiden front man Paul Dianno has passed. Only 66 years young.

https://www.newsnationnow.com/entertainment-news/paul-dianno-iron-maiden-lead-singer-dead/

I only followed them when Bruce Dickinson was/is their frontman but RIP to Paul

 

[ozzman]

I only followed them when Bruce Dickinson was/is their frontman but RIP to Paul

There's some real bangers on those first two albums. You should revisit them.

 

[Irish#1]

63 is way too young. RIP Fernando. He was the talk of MLB when he joined the Dodgers.

He responded with a 2-0 victory over the Houston Astros and went on to begin the season with an 8-0 record, including five shutouts, and an 0.50 ERA.

In addition to his Mexican roots, Valenzuela's pitching motion -- the stout figure glancing skyward at the apex of each windup -- was a hit. His signature pitch was the screwball, taught to him by teammate Bobby Castillo in 1979. During Valenzuela's warmups, ABBA's hit "Fernando" blared from the speakers. Latino fans turned out in large numbers -- both at home and on the road -- to see "El Toro," the Bull.

Column: Why Fernando Valenzuela's magic should ensure him a spot in the Hall of Fame

For one magnificent season, a Mexican immigrant electrified a city that had long treated its Mexican population as little better than the help, winning the Cy Young and Rookie of the Year while helping to propel the Blue Crew to their first World Series win in 16 years.

www.latimes.com

 

[Classic Irish]

63 is way too young. RIP Fernando. He was the talk of MLB when he joined the Dodgers.

Column: Why Fernando Valenzuela's magic should ensure him a spot in the Hall of Fame

For one magnificent season, a Mexican immigrant electrified a city that had long treated its Mexican population as little better than the help, winning the Cy Young and Rookie of the Year while helping to propel the Blue Crew to their first World Series win in 16 years.

www.latimes.com

I remember seeing him play multiple times when I was growing up in southern California. RIP.

 

[tko]

Dodgers legend Fernando Valenzuela dies at 63