Rioting in St Louis

[NoJusticeNoPeace]

Maybe Eric Garner is a demonic Hulk Hogan as well! He was charging!

 

[ickythump1225]

Maybe Eric Garner is a demonic Hulk Hogan as well! He was charging!

Yeah maybe we should respond to this by burning down businesses and looting! Perhaps after that we can throw rocks at reporters, block traffic on the interstate, and take pot shots at the cops! That will sure show them!

 

[NoJusticeNoPeace]

Yeah maybe we should respond to this by burning down businesses and looting! Perhaps after that we can throw rocks at reporters, block traffic on the interstate, and take pot shots at the cops! That will sure show them!

[Centuries of systematic discrimination and killing of black people]

"Oh well you know it happens"

[Store burns]

"NOT STORE!!!!!"

 

[NoJusticeNoPeace]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>the NYPD commissioner went ahead to make a pun out of the murder of Garner. w o w <a href="http://t.co/7WwEfzFmYq">pic.twitter.com/7WwEfzFmYq</a></p>— azura (@Nneoma_) <a href="https://twitter.com/Nneoma_/status/540251799333376000">December 3, 2014</a></blockquote>
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[kmoose]

Name one way that's not "affirmative action" in which white, Christian, heterosexual males have been discriminated against other than "mean comments" on the Internet.

If they live in a poor inner city neighborhood, then their sex education is intentionally substandard.

 

[Irish Insanity]

I once witnessed a person being removed from a casino by someone of the same race, and screaming racism as he was being dragged to the door.

 

[Wild Bill]

Name one way that's not "affirmative action" in which white, Christian, heterosexual males have been discriminated against other than "mean comments" on the Internet.

Is there a law that patently discriminates against blacks?

 

[NoJusticeNoPeace]

Is there a law that patently discriminates against blacks?

Stop and frisk was a clever way to disguise discrimination and violating the 4th Amendment. Voter ID laws also are an attempt to disenfranchise mostly black voters. The Civil Rights Act did a lot to end on the book discrimination but people are still pushing subtly racist laws and laws that don't stop racism.

 

[NoJusticeNoPeace]

Officer who fatally shot Tamir Rice judged unfit for duty by police in 2012 | US news | The Guardian

A police officer who shot a 12-year-old dead in a Cleveland park late last month had been judged unfit for police service two years earlier by a small suburban force where he worked for six months, according to records released on Wednesday.

Officer Timothy Loehmann, who killed Tamir Rice on 22 November, was specifically faulted for breaking down emotionally while handling a live gun. During a training episode at a firing range, Loehmann was reported to be “distracted and weepy” and incommunicative. “His handgun performance was dismal,” deputy chief Jim Polak of the Independence, Ohio, police department wrote in an internal memo.

The memo concludes with a recommendation that Loehmann be “released from the employment of the City of Independence”. Less than a week later, on 3 December 2012, Loehmann resigned.

In March of this year, Loehmann was hired by the Cleveland police department. It is unclear whether the department had seen the Independence memo at the time of Loehmann’s hiring.

“I have not received any instruction about it, and I have not received the file” from Independence, said Sgt Ali Pillow, a Cleveland police spokesman. He said the Cleveland department had not commented on whether it had seen the memo from Independence before Loehmann was hired.

On a Saturday afternoon last month, Loehmann and a partner, Frank Garmack, were dispatched to Cleveland’s Cudell Commons Park after a 911 caller reported “a guy” in the park was pointing a “probably fake” gun at people. Surveillance video recovered after the incident showed Tamir Rice, the 12-year-old, handling a pistol-sized pellet gun.

Loehmann shot the boy dead within two seconds of a police car driven by Garmack arriving to the park and pulling to a stop within feet of the child. In the video, released by Cleveland police a week ago, Loehmann appears to fire his gun as he opens the door to leave the police car.

Loehmann has been taken off patrol duties in Cleveland and the shooting is under internal review.

The Independence police memo describes an episode in which a supervising officer suspended gun training with Loehmann after Loehmann had an emotional breakdown about a girlfriend.

“During a state range qualification course, Ptl Loehmann was distracted and weepy,” Polak wrote, naming the trainer as Sgt Tinnirello. “[Loehmann] could not follow simple directions, could not communicate clear thoughts nor recollections, and his handgun performance was dismal. Sgt Tinnirello tried to work through this with Ptl Loehmann by giving him some time. But, after some talking it was clear to Sgt Tinnirello that the recruit was just not mentally prepared to be doing firearm training ...

“Ptl Loehmann continued with his emotional meltdown to a point where Sgt Tinnirello could not take him into the store, so they went to get something to eat and he continued to try and calm Ptl Loehmann. Sgt Tinnirello describes the recruit as being very downtrodden, melancholy with some light crying. Sgt Tinnirello later found this emotional perplexity was due to a personal issue with Ptl Loehmann’s on and off again girlfriend whom he was dealing with till 0400 hrs the night before. (Pti Loehmann was scheduled for 0800 the morning in question).”

Some of the comments made by Ptl Loehmann during this discourse were to the effect of, “I should have gone to NY”, “maybe I should quit”, “I have no friends”, “I only hang out with 73-year-old priests”, “I have cried every day for four months about this girl.”

In recommending Loehmann’s dismissal, Polak listed what he said were other performance shortcomings, including Loehmann’s having left his gun unlocked, lied to supervisors and failed to follow orders.

“Due to this dangerous loss of composure during live range training and his inability to manage this personal stress, I do not believe Ptl Loehmann shows the maturity needed to work in our employment,” Polak concludes. “For these reasons, I am recommending he be released from the employment of the city of Independence. I do not believe time, nor training, will be able to change or correct these deficiencies.”

 

[NoJusticeNoPeace]

Oh and of course the crack to cocaine sentincing law is racist/classist as well.

 

[NoJusticeNoPeace]

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[kmoose]

Stop and frisk was a clever way to disguise discrimination and violating the 4th Amendment. Voter ID laws also are an attempt to disenfranchise mostly black voters. The Civil Rights Act did a lot to end on the book discrimination but people are still pushing subtly racist laws and laws that don't stop racism.

Voter ID laws are applied equally to everyone, unless you have reputable proof that shows that only blacks are required to show ID?

Voter ID laws are designed to keep non-citizens from voting in elections. That's an equal opportunity law, if you ask me.

 

[NoJusticeNoPeace]

Voter ID laws are made to keep poorer people who don't have a car or license from voting. In-person voter ID fraud virtually never happens. It's not an issue. The people who make the laws know who don't have IDs. It's mostly inner-city people

http://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/14pdf/14a393_08m1.pdf

 

[phgreek]

Stop and frisk was a clever way to disguise discrimination and violating the 4th Amendment. Voter ID laws also are an attempt to disenfranchise mostly black voters. The Civil Rights Act did a lot to end on the book discrimination but people are still pushing subtly racist laws and laws that don't stop racism.

Stop and frisk...that could be abused... and used to target people because there is a discretionary part to it.

but how does asking EVERYONE for an ID in order to vote show the discretionary wiggle room to be abused? It is just NOT fathomable that in this day and age requiring an ID is a burden to anyone....anyone alive, of age, and allowed to vote that is. This entire "outrage" appears to me to fly in the face of logic and reality on the ground...

WHO is actually upset about providing ID, and WHO is upset about people having to provide ID...those answers usually tell you when something is a political creation, and largely done to cloud something...

what if I told you I built a voting machine that recalls you based on a thumb print right in the booth (me and 50 other companies)...that it allows you to self-certify who you are the first time, and you are verified by scanning your ID or providing alternate forms of proof later...thereafter you mash your thumb, and then vote away. Same people complain it is a burden...so that makes me think there is nefarious shit happening that a lack of definitive ids help cover.

 

[kmoose]

Voter ID laws are made to keep poorer people who don't have a car or license from voting. In-person voter ID fraud virtually never happens. It's not an issue. The people who make the laws know who don't have IDs. It's mostly inner-city people

http://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/14pdf/14a393_08m1.pdf

You know what else is designed to keep black people down? Puppies!! C'mon, don't tell me you are too blind to see it. Puppies have to have shots, and they need extra food, and their food is generally more expensive, and you have to spend lots of time with them to the point of maybe even missing some work (costing you even more money). And everyone knows that puppies make people happy. But who can least afford to spend extra money on a puppy? Poor black folks. The people who breed puppies know that, and that's why they invented the AKC; so that they could find a way to price puppies (and happiness) too high for poor inner city black people to afford.

 

[Irish Insanity]

To me it gets to a point where individuals that find reasons for just about anything they can think of to be racist become as much a part of the problem as the few that actually are racist. More could be accomplished against racism if the actual issue was addressed as opposed to manipulating everything in to being racist. So many people cringe at the first mention of race/racism because so many times the term has been used to attack someone or something when race has nothing to do with it. It's become a defense mechanism.

 

[NoJusticeNoPeace]

Why do we need voter ID? It hurts more than it helps. It keeps people from voting. It's an attempt to disenfranchise people who don't have an ID, who are usually minorities. In person voter fraud is so incredibly rare.

 

[NoJusticeNoPeace]

You know what else is designed to keep black people down? Puppies!! C'mon, don't tell me you are too blind to see it. Puppies have to have shots, and they need extra food, and their food is generally more expensive, and you have to spend lots of time with them to the point of maybe even missing some work (costing you even more money). And everyone knows that puppies make people happy. But who can least afford to spend extra money on a puppy? Poor black folks. The people who breed puppies know that, and that's why they invented the AKC; so that they could find a way to price puppies (and happiness) too high for poor inner city black people to afford.

Owning a dog isn't a right like voting. I guess that went over your head.

 

[kmoose]

Owning a dog isn't a right like voting. I guess that went over your head.

You can find racism, it seems, in EVERY facet of EVERYONE'S life. I guess that went over your head.

 

[Booslum31]

If those without IDs were going to vote Republican in mass...Democrats would think the laws were just fine. Stop fooling yourself.

 

[Irish Insanity]

You can manufacture racism, it seems, in EVERY facet of EVERYONE'S life. I guess that went over your head.

FIFY

 

[NoJusticeNoPeace]

Clearly they are doing it to stop in-person voter ID fraud, happening at an incredible .0000031%.

 

[NoJusticeNoPeace]

If those without IDs were going to vote Republican in mass...Democrats would think the laws were just fine. Stop fooling yourself.

They are being made because they are mostly Democratic voters being disenfranchised.

 

[NoJusticeNoPeace]

Why are voter ID laws being made if it's not because of race?

 

[Cackalacky]

Voter ID laws are redundant. You only need to register and get your Voter ID. Colin Powell is even on the record for this. In person voter fraud is so rare. Requiring additional IDs are targeting persons who don't have or need drivers licenses or other ID. Who are these people? Urban people, college kids, elderly people and poor people. They are patently discriminatory for political gain. That is not really arguable. There is no other reason for their existence.

 

[phgreek]

If those without IDs were going to vote Republican in mass...Democrats would think the laws were just fine. Stop fooling yourself.

....I guess I doubt if the "burden" is even real...so while I agree with the sentiment here...I think there'd be fewer people complain about an ID than there would be those who complain about climbing stairs...

 

[IrishLax]

Why are voter ID laws being made if it's not because of race?

What the fuck do voter ID laws have to do with anything else in this thread? Besides your belief that they're about race.

 

[IrishLax]

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Need to provide raw incident rates to gain any kind of perspective from that graph.

% of population is (basically) worthless towards making any sort of conclusion... % of total arrests by race, on the other hand, is VERY important and would show exactly how much death of blacks outpaces whites and/or Hispanics.

 

[GoIrish41]

What the fuck do voter ID laws have to do with anything else in this thread? Besides your belief that they're about race.

Someone asked what laws are discriminatory against blacks. He answered and it spun from there.

 

[Wild Bill]

Stop and frisk was a clever way to disguise discrimination and violating the 4th Amendment. Voter ID laws also are an attempt to disenfranchise mostly black voters. The Civil Rights Act did a lot to end on the book discrimination but people are still pushing subtly racist laws and laws that don't stop racism.

So you can't name any?