Rioting in St Louis

[West Coast Domer]

Throw race out the window. It just doesn't make sense for a cop to be able to shoot an unarmed individual six times for simply appearing to charge at him.

And he lays there for four hours in the middle of the street.

 

[wizards8507]

Throw race out the window. It just doesn't make sense for a cop to be able to shoot an unarmed individual six times for simply appearing to charge at him.

I'd love to have this conversation, because the militarization of local police forces is a big concern of mine. However, this post will be as far as the conversation goes because in some folks' eyes in this thread, the only reason that man is dead is because he's black.

 

[T Town Tommy]

Throw race out the window. It just doesn't make sense for a cop to be able to shoot an unarmed individual six times for simply appearing to charge at him.

When the individual tried to get the officer's gun from him, then took off, then turned around and started toward him... then yes... the officer has the right to shoot the person. If you don't like that, then call the attorney general for your state.

 

[Nick Setta]

McCullough said Wilson never stood over Brown'sugar body.

Complete lie.

 

[tussin]

We can discuss "societal differences" all day long. "Societal differences" does not mean police offers like to gun down black people for funsies. It also does not mean you indict or convict without sufficient evidence, even if a misdeed did take place.

I only disagree because you need probable cause, not totally sufficient evidence. Let the trial decide if he was actually guilty.

 

[calvegas04]

How was he dangerous from 130 feet away from the cruiser?

lol

 

[Irish#1]

I'm tired. Time to watch some TV before I hit the bed.

 

[wizards8507]

That's one man on a national level who has minimal power without the support of two other branches.

HE'S THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES ARE YOU KIDDING ME!?

 

[T Town Tommy]

I only disagree because you need probable cause, not totally sufficient evidence. Let the trial decide if he was actually guilty.

If the evidence showed he acted according to the law, then why would there be a need for a trial? For no indictment to come back, the evidence that he acted appropriately had to be overwhelming. That's what a Grand Jury does. If there was sufficient evidence, then he would have been indicted.

 

[Circa]

reps

 

[Polish Leppy 22]

HE'S THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES ARE YOU KIDDING ME!?

There's the US Attorney General, too.

 

[kmoose]

Go read up on Darrien Hunt and tell me if that wasn't the right case.

Yeah, a guy who has been using hallucinogens and then attacks officers with a sword (after announcing on Facebook that he has a sword and is going to get shot, indicating that perhaps he might have been thinking about suicide by cop)........... THAT just SCREAMS racist killing..

 

[Polish Leppy 22]

Ferguson's finest destroying a cop car on TV. Against the Brown family's wishes. That's productive.

 

[TK22867]

Throw race out the window. It just doesn't make sense for a cop to be able to shoot an unarmed individual six times for simply appearing to charge at him.

So Wilson was supposed to wait and try and go all Chuck Norris on him?

 

[NoJusticeNoPeace]

HE'S THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES ARE YOU KIDDING ME!?

And he's a pussy. He's afraid to do or say shit except for once a year.

 

[West Coast Domer]

Ferguson's finest destroying a cop car on TV. Against the Brown family's wishes. That's productive.

White people destroying it too

 

[wizards8507]

Ferguson's finest destroying a cop car on TV. Against the Brown family's wishes. That's productive.

First Amendment. Peaceable assembly and shit.

White people destroying it too

I don't recall Polish Leppy 22 saying "black people destroying cop car on TV." YOU brought up race, not him.

 

[NoJusticeNoPeace]

Yeah, a guy who has been using hallucinogens and then attacks officers with a sword (after announcing on Facebook that he has a sword and is going to get shot, indicating that perhaps he might have been thinking about suicide by cop)........... THAT just SCREAMS racist killing..

He was only shot in the black and was peacefully talking to the cops before his murder.

 

[NoJusticeNoPeace]

So Wilson was supposed to wait and try and go all Chuck Norris on him?

He could have waited until he was less than a third of a football field away before he used lethal force 11 times.

 

[Irish Insanity]

He was only shot in the black and was peacefully talking to the cops before his murder.

Since you were there, what were they conversing about?

 

[TK22867]

He was only shot in the black and was peacefully talking to the cops before his murder.

.

 

[wizards8507]

Shots fired.

 

[tussin]

So Wilson was supposed to wait and try and go all Chuck Norris on him?

I'm of the opinion that shooting your gun should be the absolute last thing a cop should do.

I don't believe that Wilson exhausted his other options. In no scenario should this have ended with someone getting shot six times. It just goes to show the ineptitude of most local cops.

 

[kmoose]

He was only shot in the black and was peacefully talking to the cops before his murder.

Hunt said he wanted a ride to a nearby city but when they asked him to give up his sword, he refused and his demeanor changed. That's when he swung the 3-foot metal sword at them, Buhman said.

"This happened so quickly, violently and without provocation the officers had to use what was most immediately available to them, which was their firearms," Buhman said. He said the investigation uncovered no trace that race or ethnicity played a role in the incident.

The findings of the investigation were based on interviews with the officers involved and three witnesses, he said. Buhman said after Hunt was initially hit by gunfire, he fled and disobeyed orders to drop the sword.

Yeah, nothing says "peacefully" like swinging a sword at someone...

 

[jmurphy75]

So even after Holder and the DOJ and FBI investigated this was the verdict and people still have a problem with it. It's a shame that someone lost their life but what should happen when you attack an officer or anyone for that matter?

 

[jmurphy75]

What kills me is the Pres gets on TV for this bullshit but we still have things like Bengazi that he won't speak about.

 

[T Town Tommy]

I'm of the opinion that shooting your gun should be the absolute last thing a cop should do.

I don't believe that Wilson exhausted his other options. In no scenario should this have ended with someone getting shot six times. It just goes to show the ineptitude of most local cops.

When the individual continues to come at you, then you do whatever is necessary. The facts showed that he did not stop coming at the officer. remember, he had already attcked the officer in the car and tried to take his gun. It is easy to second guess AFTER the fact. The law states that if the officer feels threatened, then the use of force - even deadly force - is authorized. Yes it should be a last resort but who's to say it wasn't his last resort? We can't what if the scenerio.

 

[dad4aa]

I'm suggesting that destigmatizing drugs is the first step. When people aren't afraid of the law for drugs they can trust the government to not lock them up. The government should be in the business of making sure the stuff on the street is safe and not crap.

I don't know why any of you argue with him. This statement alone, saying that it is the government's job to make sure the illegal street drugs are safe goes to show you there is only one opinion....his, and anyone who disagrees is wrong. I'm sure he will come back with some other moronic statement about how drugs shouldn't be illegal because "they are only hurting themselves" which all of us know is not true because most drug addicts can't hold down a job so they have to steal from people to afford their habit. Then we will hear about how the government needs to help these "sick" individuals and not punish them because they need help...and on and on and on. If I knew how to block someone this would be my first one because these have been some of the most ignorant rants I have seen in my five years reading and two years posting.

No, I did not call you ignorant I said these have been ignorant rants. I want to put that out there now before I am called a racist....which, by the way, is impossible if you look at my family lineage.

 

[pkt77242]

Of course there is but not nearly what you are making it out to be. But its goes against Hispanics, Asians, Whites. Your point you are trying to make is invalid.

I would argue that there is more racism then what you think.

AP poll: U.S. majority have prejudice against blacks

This is a survey that measure explicit and implicit racial bias

In all, 51% of Americans now express explicit anti-black attitudes, compared with 48% in a similar 2008 survey. When measured by an implicit racial attitudes test, the number of Americans with anti-black sentiments jumped to 56%, up from 49% during the last presidential election. In both tests, the share of Americans expressing pro-black attitudes fell.

Though you are correct that Hispanics had similar numbers as far as people being biased against them. The sampling error is about 4% but that still puts the numbers crazy high.

 

[wizards8507]

Oh good, Holder is on it. I feel better.