Post Game Observations

[RadioSean]

Rees might be the man for 2011 but he is not for 2012.

Probably true. Kelly will likely start one of his QB's next year.

 

[NDMontana]

What scares me now is how are we going to stop a very good throwing QB in Cousins of MSU? Boys got to step up.

As oppossed to stepping up, I'd just prefer they turn and look for the ball once in a while.

 

[GoIrish41]

The D couldn't close the game out and hold a 17 point lead, so this is in no way 100% Tommy's fault like you are making it out to be.

The problem with your last several posts is that you seem to want to claim that someone is "giving him hell," "bashing him" or saing the loss is "100% Tommy's fault." No one has done or said any of those things. I'm really not sure who you are arguing with about these points.

 

[DANsanity15]

Probably true. Kelly will likely start one of his QB's next year.

Rees IS one of his guys

 

[OlympiaIrishFan]

What you are leaving out is that he did throw a game killing INT in the end zone against Tulsa.

He also now has 3 or 4 turnovers in the red zone. How many points is that?

None of us said it was 100% Tommy. NONE of us have. You brought this all on calling his playing great. And another poster called you out on that. Deal with that. I got you calling me a bandwagon fan when you had no idea what you were talking about. Just like saying he is just a soph, when Tommy has had more training than most Soph. The facts is that Tommy has had 5 huge TO's. And it has lead to 2 loses, and he is the main man on offense so he will get a lot of blame. But, you have to go back a read and see none of us said it was 100% Tommy's fault. Again, you need to do some research on the difference between bashing and facts, you tend not to have in your brain defined incorrectly. Like myself and the other poster have explained to you.

 

[OlympiaIrishFan]

Goirish, I think we are responding to a wall here. You are 100% correct, we addressed the bashing/great play/etc. comments. Jared has some issues with this.

 

[IrishMoore1]

You guys need to take it easy on Tommy. His first interception was caused by Floyd running the wrong route. His 2nd was a bad decision. His fumble was a freak play. The kid is cold blooded and put enough points on the board to win.

Gary Gray effed up. He gave up 3 touchdowns. That's not acceptable from a 5th year senior. Turn the f*** around and look for the ball, jeezus. Play calling on defense against the last series is very questionable.

We'll be okay as long as we win the next 10 games...

 

[OlympiaIrishFan]

NDirish, I agree Tommy will be part of the guys battling for it. Good/bad/indifferent he will be. The others are the ones that we don't know. Will Andrew be here? What about Dayne? Everett will be. Who knows.

 

[NDMontana]

We'll be okay as long as we win the next 10 games...

Are you some kind of comedian?

 

[OlympiaIrishFan]

I agree Gary was the major reason, but you still can't have your QB have 3 TO's. Freak play or not. Still you have can't allow 80 yards in 30 seconds. That is embarrassing.

 

[arndtjc]

I guess we will have to agree to disagree then, but I'm sure you'll have something smartass to say about that too.

We're all here for the same reason, to talk about our beloved Irish. Tonight was tough, for all of us, but you gotta look at the positives you take out of the first two games (over 1,000 yards, 51 points, defense in the USF game and first half of tonight), and not dwell on the negatives.

 

[OlympiaIrishFan]

10-2??? Right now they have to worry about getting to a bowl game. This gives us little to no wiggle room.

 

[OlympiaIrishFan]

Jared, you are the one that said he played great, then said bashing when we were talking about how bad 3 TO's were. That was fact. You have the problem of definition, and now can't admit it and want to act like it didn't happen. You have the issues.

You were the attacker, and when you got called out you can't deal with it. Calling me a bandwagon jumper and get my head out of my a*&. You were wrong and multiple posters have proved that. And you can't deal with it.

We are all here because we are fans. You just have some other issues, maybe a dictionary can help so you can decipher definitions.

 

[GoIrish41]

]You guys need to take it easy on Tommy. Again, nobody is being overly hard on Tommy. His first interception was caused by Floyd running the wrong route. Not trying to be a smarta$$, but how the hell do you know that Floyd ran the wrong route or that it caused Tommy to throw an interception? His 2nd was a bad decision. Bad play His fumble was a freak play. Bad play The kid is cold blooded and put enough points on the board to win. Apparently not, because ND did not win

 

[NDMontana]

I guess we will have to agree to disagree then, but I'm sure you'll have something smartass to say about that too.

We're all here for the same reason, to talk about our beloved Irish. Tonight was tough, for all of us, but you gotta look at the positiv. es you take out of the first two games (over 1,000 yards, 51 points, defense in the USF game and first half of tonight), and not dwell on the negatives.

Ah yes, retreading arguments from the Weis era. Look at all that offense, the offense is great....oh boy. Look at the win/loss column....that is all you need to look at.

 

[OlympiaIrishFan]

ndmontana, good post.

 

[arndtjc]

Okay, maybe bashing wasn't the correct word. Putting him down probably would have been better, but who are you, my 4th grade teacher? I was simply trying to make the point that they aren't 0-2 because of Tommy Rees. You made it seem as if you blamed Tommy for the loss tonight, and I backed him up by saying he played well enough and got enough offense to win the game. Sure the kid had 3 turn overs, but Turk punted the ball out of bounds inside their own territory, costing them a TD and The defense gave up a 17 point lead in the 2nd half.

You may have graduated from Notre Dame, but that doesn't exempt you from being a bandwagon fan. Instead of dwelling on the negatives and being pessimistic, you have to have an open mind and believe in Kelly's system and coaches, or you will come off as one. The world isn't coming to an end because the Notre Dame football team is 0-2 to start the year. The sun will still rise in the morning, and there will still be another game next week.

Is that better?

 

[NDMontana]

Here is a silver lining: it could have been a Michigan blowout victory. Really, think about it: if they don't take a knee with 1:30 left before halftime they could have scored another two or three touchdowns.

 

[Bmac020211]

Three things cost this game:

1. Defensive backs inability to locate a jump ball. (That's all he threw!)
2. Numerous unforced turnovers. (that Rees slip was BAD)
3. Running under center on 3rd and 1 three or four times in and row and not getting it.

Can't say I didn't see this coming.
Doesn't even hurt as bad as last week.
Knew somehow we'd blow it.
Not being intoxicated probably helps.

Dead on. Your thing 3. blows my mind every single time. I call it before it happens and they run it and get stuffed. It reminds me a lot of the Weis days. Load up the backfield or run play action. I am sooooo sick of the same old ****

 

[pkt77242]

]You guys need to take it easy on Tommy. Again, nobody is being overly hard on Tommy. His first interception was caused by Floyd running the wrong route. Not trying to be a smarta$$, but how the hell do you know that Floyd ran the wrong route or that it caused Tommy to throw an interception? His 2nd was a bad decision. Bad play His fumble was a freak play. Bad play The kid is cold blooded and put enough points on the board to win. Apparently not, because ND did not win

I disagree with one thing. We scored enough to win unfortunately our defensive backs (Gary Gray) couldn't cover a paper bag.

 

[OlympiaIrishFan]

Better, still not totally correct. The sun and the game thing is correct though. Yes, Turk kick was horrible. But, was it a fumble on the 2? Or a pic in the red zone? We did not blame Rees, that was your mis reading. As we have proved over and over. Maybe you should go back and read before spouting off. I stated it was a full team loss. then again, you have a hard time with facts--just going with bashing and what not.

Anyhow, arguing with you seems to be futile. As others here have stated also. Time to move on and head to bed.

Go Irish, hope it gets better!

 

[GoIrish41]

I disagree with one thing. We scored enough to win unfortunately our defensive backs (Gary Gray) couldn't cover a paper bag.

agree, Gray played poorly. But when you say we scored enough to win we have to remember we were playing against D. Robinson, probably the most explosive player in college football. if we learned anything tonight, it is that you can NEVER score enough points against D. Robinson.

 

[anarin]

Zeke Motta and Gary Gray played HORRIBLE. We made too many penalties and turnover tommy struck again.

BK needed to recognize that the michigan D was crashing the middle and over committing on the edges, he gets a toss or swing pass to the outside and we keep the clock running.

This heartbreak is killing me... I'm afraid we may be 0-3 after MSU.

 

[Who'saWildManNow]

Zeke Motta and Gary Gray played HORRIBLE. We made too many penalties and turnover tommy struck again.

BK needed to recognize that the michigan D was crashing the middle and over committing on the edges, he gets a toss or swing pass to the outside and we keep the clock running.

This heartbreak is killing me... I'm afraid we may be 0-3 after MSU.

I don't think so. In my heart I had a feeling we would lose this way to Michigan. But, we actually match up pretty well against State.

It will be nice to see a true pro-style QB that's not going to extend every play and get 3 or 4 huge first down with his legs.

Gary Gray is killing me though.

 

[tko]

gray will be rented by cousins and d'antonio. i'd be licking my choips right now if i was the msu staff.

 

[ohara831]

I was so angry after we lost the game last night. Livid! Then this morning I realized that 10 years ago this country and thousands of people lost something far more valuable and important than a football game. Honestly, riight now I am just grateful to be alive, have a family I love, and grateful that we have a team to cheer for and watch play again. l will be cheering for ND next week, and expecting a victory!

 

[buirish]

I was so angry after we lost the game last night. Livid! Then this morning I realized that 10 years ago this country and thousands of people lost something far more valuable and important than a football game. Honestly, riight now I am just grateful to be alive, have a family I love, and grateful that we have a team to cheer for and watch play again. l will be cheering for ND next week, and expecting a victory!

Amen bro... Posted something similar in the I'm Done thread!!
Go Irish

 

[koonja]

Kelly's known for player development. I'm trying to think of one player who looks better than last year, not named Cierre Wood.

Harrison is worse, Gray is worse, Shembo hasn't made a play yet, Theo's worse, Flemming hasn't done anything, Tommy's the same (lots of picks, throws a good ball), Crist seemed worse, etc.

 

[phgreek]

Based on what? I'm not gonna disagree with your post, but in the big boy world, production wins out....not comparisons to garbage coaches who've since been tossed to the scrap heap. Boob, The Best Golf Coach in the Country and CW all had their fatal flaws...and paid dearly for them. But in the end, Kelly will have his feet held to the fire just like the rest of them...and at this point, he's gonna need some ointment for his toes... Just sayin'.

I supported why I think Kelly is the guy by saying he has a record of winning w/alot less talent. I made reference to the coaches of the bone yard to illustrate the guy is everything we asked for, rather directly or indirectly.

I like it when folks come with criticism (ala Moose etc.) but firing the guy, or suggesting it is simply nuts.

 

[Riddickulous]

Michigan fans actually think their team is good because of this game.