Post Game Observations Oklahoma State

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Have to imagine Sneed gets the ability to come in and contribute right away alongside of Kollie and Liufau. LBs were dreadful today at wrapping up, taking the right angles, and filling the gaps.
 
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NDVirginia19 said:
Have to imagine Sneed gets the ability to come in and contribute right away alongside of Kollie and Liufau. LBs were dreadful today at wrapping up, taking the right angles, and filling the gaps.
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Kollie has had all year to get ahead of Kiser and Bertrand and could not even get any time. I think he is probably going into the Shayne Simon category.
 
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Personnel wise, Oklahoma St was always going to be a problem with that run defense. It's also pretty likely whether it was BK or MF this was always going to be a close one regardless of HC because whenever they couldn't run the ball it was razor close this season. Similar to the Toledo game I thought.
 
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Kollie has had all year to get ahead of Kiser and Bertrand and could not even get any time. I think he is probably going into the Shayne Simon category.
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Cause he’s also a true frosh. Come on you guys. Smh.
 
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T-Boone said:
That sucks but it also felt to me more like we were lucky to be up by 21 than an outright meltdown.
We were one dimensional and OSU only needed to realise how bad the DBs are for it to turn out how it did.
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ND's defense (10th) v. OSU's offense (49th) should have been a match-up that was strongly in our favor. We didn't have to leave Lewis on an island to get picked on all day. We didn't have to play our three slow run-stopping LBs when they switched to 10 personnel in the 2nd half. Elston didn't make the necessary adjustments, and Freeman didn't take the wheel from him when it could have made a difference.
 
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My collection of thoughts.

1. What a great season, exceeded expectations and should end solidly in the top 10. Not bad at all for a rebuilding year.

2. Hate losing that game but for a glorified exhibition that was an exciting watch at least. I thought we would find magic late but it wasn't meant to be. Oh well.

3. The good: A. I think our Oline will be good next year and dominant the year after. Nice parting gift from Mr. Quinn, happy trails!
B. Styles is who we thought he was! Crown him dammit!
C. I can haz a commitment from a top 50 safety for next year? And the current commits chirping about better things ahead? Yes please.
D. Holes, there be holes! Linebackers not very athletic? Good news! Need another RB with some speed? Awesome! Continue building DL depth? Why not! Add a potential lock down corner from the best area in the country? You got it!

4. The bad: A. Flat ran out of gas. Injuries, attrition, not playing for a decade (dates approximate) all added up to a dead team in the second half. If only we had one more elite DB and RB....
B. I hesitate to even put this as bad because I think it's a great starting point, but has to go somewhere. MF has a roster he didn't build playing against a coach that has been his conferences coach of the year a couple of times that has nearly coached for more years since pronouncing he was a man than our HC and OC combined and we went toe to toe with him. Were they an inch away from potentially crashing the playoffs? Yes indeedy and we gave them all they wanted. The way we lost hurt but I think it was a strong debut, just bad because...well.....we lost. I am 100% confident that we will learn from it and be better for it.
C. Holes, there be holes! If all the WRs come back, and we get a portal guy, and we sign another player.....no sugar coating it. That room needs help. Safeties is pretty close but maybe we can paper over that if Foskey comes back.


5. The ugly: Message board meltdowns, I'm embarrassed for all the embarrassment and sore from laughing at all the jokes that we are/were/continue to be etc., etc., etc. Love you guys and the entertainment you bring even though I'm honestly not sure how some posters function at life.

6. On to Ohio State (speaking of an embarrassing half of football, amiright?!?!?!?!)
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Point #2 is exactly why I’m not losing my mind like some. Build off the good learn from the bad, move on.
 
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That 2nd half - I’ve seen enough to know this is not good. Hope I’m wrong but I don’t think that we stop anyone for a while. Hate to be so pessimistic but it’s the way I see it.
 
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T-Boone said:
Kollie has had all year to get ahead of Kiser and Bertrand and could not even get any time. I think he is probably going into the Shayne Simon category.
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A. true frosh B. Had Covid during season C. He’s still learning how to play LB, played safety, RB and a little bit of MLB in HS
 
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Hate to be so critical/pessimistic but MF is Weis clone. Super talented teams who losses to Okie St
 
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NDisme said:
Jesus dude, we lost a glorified exhibition game against a good team in Freeman’s first game As a head coach. Was it frustrating sure but to call him a weis clone? That’s asinine.
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Asinine? Come at me in a few years. They gave us the come back fumbling in the goal line. This was 100% Weis shit/lost.
 
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Irish2155 said:
Asinine? Come at me in a few years. They gave us the come back fumbling in the goal line. This was 100% Weis shit/lost.
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then keep your opinions and comparisons to yourself until Freeman has put together a body of work instead of his first game being a head coach less than a month vs a top 10 team. Making the comparison now is as I said completely asinine
 
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Clarence Lewis gave me ptsd of the bush push game when they just threw at whomever #22 was covering. Only a lot worse. The tackling was bad, many times the guys didn’t wrap up and extended drives.

also think at some point Coan needed to be pulled and let one of the other guys play. Both are more mobile and require a spy. Coan couldn’t outrun a d linemen. Im not saying bench him but give ok state a different look. Kyrens absence was 100% apparent.

at the end of the day it looked like the teams switched jerseys at half.
 
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NDisme said:
then keep your opinions and comparisons to yourself until Freeman has put together a body of work instead of his first game being a head coach less than a month vs a top 10 team. Making the comparison now is as I said completely asinine
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Fair enough. What comparison/opinion would you like? I think Weis is appropriate given what we just watched
 
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Irish2155 said:
Fair enough. What comparison/opinion would you like? I think Weis is appropriate given what we just watched
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I don’t want any comparison. A comparison of a coach who has 1 game under his belt vs a top 10 team, And a coach who had a 5 year body of work makes zero sense. A 2nd grader could see that.
 
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irisheyes said:
Clarence Lewis gave me ptsd of the bush push game when they just threw at whomever #22 was covering. Only a lot worse. The tackling was bad, many times the guys didn’t wrap up and extended drives.

also think at some point Coan needed to be pulled and let one of the other guys play. Both are more mobile and require a spy. Coan couldn’t outrun a d linemen. Im not saying bench him but give ok state a different look. Kyrens absence was 100% apparent.

at the end of the day it looked like the teams switched jerseys at half.
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Ambrose wooden #22
 
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