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[RDU Irish]

The "vibe shift" over the past two years is actually major realignment among young people away from Democrats. I think it's a product of a number of environmental factors coupled with the breakdown of social contracts that happened from 2020 to 2024.

My son graduated HS in 2022 and my daughter graduated the same HS this spring. Monumental shift. Young men went from DGAF/don't go there to openly right tilted. The female shift feels like it is in its infancy - depressed Goth girls aren't running things anymore and every man hanging out in the girls room is fueling a further shift to the right. Better path to mental health is traditional, conservative values versus hating everything and threatening to kill yourself for attention.

I would love to hear your thoughts on key aspects of that social contract and how it was violated for that particular age group.

 

[ulukinatme]

Hmmm should we focus on:

Income inequality? ❌
Getting money out of politics? ❌
Outrageous healthcare costs? ❌
Education? ❌
Gas stoves? ✅

Why aren't we more popular? 👁️👄👁️

I wouldn't mind seeing a complete reset in Congress, get the career politicians out and find some new blood. Congress can't move with any kind of efficiency, the priorities are all out of whack.

The "vibe shift" over the past two years is actually major realignment among young people away from Democrats. I think it's a product of a number of environmental factors coupled with the breakdown of social contracts that happened from 2020 to 2024.

It's crazy to me we're seeing such a huge shift in the youth towards conservatives, while the older population is trending a bit toward liberals. It's often that the elderly get more conservative as they age, while we've seen the youth being more progressive.

 

[GATTACA!]

I wouldn't mind seeing a complete reset in Congress, get the career politicians out and find some new blood. Congress can't move with any kind of efficiency, the priorities are all out of whack.


It's crazy to me we're seeing such a huge shift in the youth towards conservatives, while the older population is trending a bit toward liberals. It's often that the elderly get more conservative as they age, while we've seen the youth being more progressive.

I would say it's way way too early to discern anything about the youth yet.

Was Gen Z’s Trump era just a phase?

The paradox of today’s Trump-voting youth.

www.vox.com

Among those aged 18-29, this swing is particularly dramatic — a 27 percentage point drop over the last six months, according to CBS News/YouGov polling, taking the president from a positive 55 percent approval rating among Gen Z in February to 28 percent in July.

 

[ulukinatme]

I would say it's way way too early to discern anything about the youth yet.

Was Gen Z’s Trump era just a phase?

The paradox of today’s Trump-voting youth.

www.vox.com

I can't read the article because I'm not giving $5 to Vox, but I can see the younger generation flip flopping easily like that.

 

[Bishop2b5]

I can't read the article because I'm not giving $5 to Vox, but I can see the younger generation flip flopping easily like that.

It's Vox. Their reputation is that they're far left, biased, and not particularly trustworthy. They have a history of putting agenda before accuracy. I'd take anything they report with a cattle block of salt.

 

[GATTACA!]

It's Vox. Their reputation is that they're far left, biased, and not particularly trustworthy. They have a history of putting agenda before accuracy. I'd take anything they report with a cattle block of salt.

Completely irrelevant. The polling is from YouGov and CBS. Two well respected pollsters.

 

[ulukinatme]

It's Vox. Their reputation is that they're far left, biased, and not particularly trustworthy. They have a history of putting agenda before accuracy. I'd take anything they report with a cattle block of salt.

I feel what you're saying. There are worse publications than Vox. They are left sided, but their Fact rating is usually fairly rated at High so I'll give them that.

 

[Bishop2b5]

Democrats have been losing serious ground with male voters. They even conducted an expensive study recently to figure out why. I can't figure it out either. It's a real headscratcher.

 

[TorontoGold]

 

[SeekNDestroy]

Democrats have been losing serious ground with male voters. They even conducted an expensive study recently to figure out why. I can't figure it out either. It's a real headscratcher.

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[ColoradoIrish]

Same energy

 

[Bishop2b5]

I hooked three fish with one cast! LOL

You girls mad that the dems are losing male voters or just mad that I pointed out why?

 

[Irish#1]

Doesn't anybody have a sense of humor anymore? Bishop's post is funny as is Colorado's.

 

[ColoradoIrish]

Doesn't anybody have a sense of humor anymore? Bishop's post is funny as is Colorado's.

I was intending to be funny, Bishop clearly was posting it to be provocative and get a rise of people.

 

[Bishop2b5]

I was intending to be funny, Bishop clearly was posting it to be provocative and get a rise of people.

Mine was using humor to point out a very obvious truth that some are in denial about. That it provoked a couple of the ones in denial was just a bonus! LOL

 

[NDVirginia19]

I wouldn't mind seeing a complete reset in Congress, get the career politicians out and find some new blood. Congress can't move with any kind of efficiency, the priorities are all out of whack.


It's crazy to me we're seeing such a huge shift in the youth towards conservatives, while the older population is trending a bit toward liberals. It's often that the elderly get more conservative as they age, while we've seen the youth being more progressive.

I think there are two big things

Across all Gen Z, you see a huge R swing with men, because they've grown up being berated about their male privilege (especially when you see that outcomes for young men are statistically significantly worse than young women) and they're tired of it.

You also can account for a large portion of that right leaning swing due to COVID restrictions which were largely pushed by the left. Birthday parties cancelled, not being able to go to school or do their college graduation, not having high school dances etc. I think it pushed a lot of them away from the more nanny-state party.

 

[TorontoGold]

I think there are two big things

Across all Gen Z, you see a huge R swing with men, because they've grown up being berated about their male privilege (especially when you see that outcomes for young men are statistically significantly worse than young women) and they're tired of it.

You also can account for a large portion of that right leaning swing due to COVID restrictions which were largely pushed by the left. Birthday parties cancelled, not being able to go to school or do their college graduation, not having high school dances etc. I think it pushed a lot of them away from the more nanny-state party.

I would add at least the GOP is giving their voters something. What do the Dems get? Student loans? One Supreme Court justice?

One party is playing 4D chess the other is running Martha’s Vineyard fundraisers for war criminals et al.

 

[SeekNDestroy]

Mine was using humor to point out a very obvious truth that some are in denial about. That it provoked a couple of the ones in denial was just a bonus! LOL

You really need to interact more with your average Democratic voter. Not the far left minority that you see on social media.

 

[ColoradoIrish]

You really need to interact more with your average Democratic voter. Not the far left minority that you see on social media.

It's not even that, it's a caricature of what he thinks Democrat voters are. The only people that care or run on the issues is defaults back to are current maga politician

 

[TorontoGold]

You really need to interact more with your average Democratic voter. Not the far left minority that you see on social media.

The Sydney Sweeney thing isn’t even a far left thing. It’s manufactured outrage by the propaganda accounts that only serve to confuse elderly people who can't find the proper charts of the DJIA. It may seem like a trivial thing to you, but for some it proves to be quite challenging!

 

[Bishop2b5]

I'm the Bill Dance of IE. LOL!

 

[ColoradoIrish]

The Tennessee fan of the board. It has a nice ring to it

 

[ulukinatme]

The Sydney Sweeney thing isn’t even a far left thing. It’s manufactured outrage by the propaganda accounts that only serve to confuse elderly people who can't find the proper charts of the DJIA. It may seem like a trivial thing to you, but for some it proves to be quite challenging!

I agree that it's probably a lot of manufactured outrage, but I think those accounts reach a lot more people than just the elderly. There's a lot of stupid people on social media, both sides.

 

[Giddyup]

 

[Irish#1]

 

[Bishop2b5]

Maybe he learned to tell stories from Joe.

 

[dublinirish]

Midland Lee of Friday Night Lights book/movie fame


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[Gladiator]

Just like State Senator Nicole Mitchell who Is a Democrat, that decided to rob her step mom because her father died. Democrats are problem children.

 

[dublinirish]

 

[Gladiator]

Here's a great example. Left vs. Right. In the trenches.
Reminds me of a few extremist on this political board.