Politics

[RDU Irish]

How many times do we have to debate this same topic? No illegals are voting. There's no evidence that they are or are even trying to. Most of the laws republicans want to enact to solve this non problem have a negative effect on urban voters who overwhelmingly and conveniently vote blue.

You realize typing/saying things doesn't make it true? If it isn't a problem then it shouldn't impact you one way or the other? Why not take the action and eliminate a point of contention since it will have zero effect on the actual result?

 

[GATTACA!]

You realize typing/saying things doesn't make it true? If it isn't a problem then it shouldn't impact you one way or the other? Why not take the action and eliminate a point of contention since it will have zero effect on the actual result?

Read the second half of that reply again and maybe you can parse it out.

 

[RDU Irish]

Saying it negatively impacts urban voters does not make it true. If there is no fraud, there should be no impact on turnout.

 

[GATTACA!]

Saying it negatively impacts urban voters does not make it true. If there is no fraud, there should be no impact on turnout.

Those aren’t directly related. Restricting what IDs people can use will impact turnout without stopping fraud that doesn’t exist.

 

[drayer54]

How many times do we have to debate this same topic? No illegals are voting. There's no evidence that they are or are even trying to. Most of the laws republicans want to enact to solve this non problem have a negative effect on urban voters who overwhelmingly and conveniently vote blue.

Its already illegal for them to be here, yet here we are. Dems opened the floodgates for this reason. If this is so easy; then why dig in to stop a ban on non-citizens voting?

 

[drayer54]

Saying it negatively impacts urban voters does not make it true. If there is no fraud, there should be no impact on turnout.

Apparently urban non-citizens should be able to vote.

 

[GATTACA!]

Its already illegal for them to be here, yet here we are. Dems opened the floodgates for this reason. If this is so easy; then why dig in to stop a ban on non-citizens voting?

What a terrible plan it must be since clearly it isn't working.

 

[GATTACA!]

Apparently urban non-citizens should be able to vote.

Adding more hoops to jump through makes people vote less. That doesn't mean that the people that will stop voting are illegals. In fact there's no evidence to support the idea that any are. People already need to be registered to vote in every single state. How are illegals circumventing the voting laws as is (they aren't)?

 

[TorontoGold]

Adding more hoops to jump through makes people vote less. That doesn't mean that the people that will stop voting are illegals. In fact there's no evidence to support the idea that any are. People already need to be registered to vote in every single state. How are illegals circumventing the voting laws as is (they aren't)?

Don't you follow the logic? Undocumented people REALLY want to go to a public space where LEO's are so that they can run the possibility of being picked up and deported.

 

[drayer54]

Don't you follow the logic? Undocumented people REALLY want to go to a public space where LEO's are so that they can run the possibility of being picked up and deported.

The logic is that the door was propped open to get more foreign voters. They'll flood us with gangs if it helps them get power.

 

[GATTACA!]

The logic is that the door was propped open to get more foreign voters. They'll flood us with gangs if it helps them get power.

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[TorontoGold]

The logic is that the door was propped open to get more foreign voters. They'll flood us with gangs if it helps them get power.

Where is the swath of foreign voters? Where is the identifiable proof?

 

[NDVirginia19]

Don't you follow the logic? Undocumented people REALLY want to go to a public space where LEO's are so that they can run the possibility of being picked up and deported.

They don't need to go out into a public space to vote when they can vote by mail and have somebody turn it in for them at a drop box.

 

[GATTACA!]

They don't need to go out into a public space to vote when they can vote by mail and have somebody turn it in for them at a drop box.

How are they registering?

 

[drayer54]

Elon figured it out.

 

[GATTACA!]

Elon figured it out.

How on earth does that make it “impossible” lol.

 

[drayer54]

How on earth does that make it “impossible” lol.

Flood the system with hard to verify ballots and minimal documentation. They have a senile dude and a dud; they must get creative. The only reason to oppose a ban on non-citizen voting is that you support non-citizen voting. May as well mail the ballots to China.

 

[GATTACA!]

Flood the system with hard to verify ballots and minimal documentation. They have a senile dude and a dud; they must get creative. The only reason to oppose a ban on non-citizen voting is that you support non-citizen voting. May as well mail the ballots to China.

Non citizens are already banned from voting. You’re living in a fantasy land.

 

[drayer54]

Non citizens are already banned from voting. You’re living in a fantasy land.

I live in a land where one party deliberately changes policy resulting in a migrant surge and the same party will not vote to ban non-citiizens from voting.

 

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[ab2cmiller]

What happens if they don't match? Let's say there are 100 more ballots on the machine compared to the hand counting. How are they going to determine which votes should be nullified? I'm glad they are doing the comparison, just unsure of the process that would take place to bring the machine and hand counts back in agreement.

 

[GATTACA!]

I live in a land where one party deliberately changes policy resulting in a migrant surge and the same party will not vote to ban non-citiizens from voting.

How thoughtful of them to try and change to laws. I thought they were trying to steal the elections?

 

[RDU Irish]

They don't need to go out into a public space to vote when they can vote by mail and have somebody turn it in for them at a drop box.

I am amazed people think half the harvested ballots even know they voted let alone filled out their ballot. Is it naivete? Of all the crime in this world people really act like the sanctity of our elections is a bridge too far.

 

[drayer54]

Please let this be true. This is why Pelosi wants Biden off the ticket, not because he is a vegetable.

 

[Bishop2b5]

Non citizens are already banned from voting. You’re living in a fantasy land.

Then why the resistance to requiring ID proving you're a citizen before being allowed to vote? You can ban non-citizens from voting, but if you avoid any attempts to determine if a voter is a citizen or not, what's the point?

 

[GATTACA!]

Then why the resistance to requiring ID proving you're a citizen before being allowed to vote? You can ban non-citizens from voting, but if you avoid any attempts to determine if a voter is a citizen or not, what's the point?

You have to be registered to vote. You have to be a citizen to register. There is no evidence that illegal aliens are doing either.

The point is that if you’re asking for people to have a specific form of ID to vote you’re going to hurt turnout. Doesn’t matter if that’s in rural Arkansas or Brooklyn. Without any evidence that there is a problem that needs to be solved what is the point of making it harder on citizens to vote?

Now this the part where you tell me it’s not an inconvenience to go get an id. I repeat that it is for people that don’t have the luxury of taking off work on a whim and that don’t have cars, the whole reason they don’t have drivers licenses to begin with. And around and around we go.

 

[RDU Irish]

You have to be registered to vote. You have to be a citizen to register. There is no evidence that illegal aliens are doing either.

The point is that if you’re asking for people to have a specific form of ID to vote you’re going to hurt turnout. Doesn’t matter if that’s in rural Arkansas or Brooklyn. Without any evidence that there is a problem that needs to be solved what is the point of making it harder on citizens to vote?

Now this the part where you tell me it’s not an inconvenience to go get an id. I repeat that it is for people that don’t have the luxury of taking off work on a whim and that don’t have cars, the whole reason they don’t have drivers licenses to begin with. And around and around we go.

I didn't even have to look hard to find a red state example.

 

[GATTACA!]

I didn't even have to look hard to find a red state example.

Texas Admits Errors in Illegal Voter Report

An 11-month investigation was debunked as mostly false in less that one week, according to voting officials in Texas.

www.newsweek.com

Fake

 

[TorontoGold]

Texas Admits Errors in Illegal Voter Report

An 11-month investigation was debunked as mostly false in less that one week, according to voting officials in Texas.

www.newsweek.com

Fake

If anyone knows how to commit a crime it's Ken Paxton.

 

[ab2cmiller]

Texas Admits Errors in Illegal Voter Report

An 11-month investigation was debunked as mostly false in less that one week, according to voting officials in Texas.

www.newsweek.com

Fake

Article does seem to imply that while the 95,000 number was inflated, the numbers are closer to 40% of those figures.