“Another trip”, maybe but not really. If people do not have a drivers license they have probably never been. If they lost or had it stolen most states allow you to get another online. In the event they need to go into an office to get an ID, like ABC eluded to… we are in a country that has been fought and died for… get a damn ID. Inconvenience is laughable. Incompetence shouldn’t really be tolerated or catered to. A lot of reasons aren’t really good enough.
I was just using the DMV as a pejorative for an annoying task. No one wants to go sit in the DMV or go to the post office to get a state ID.
Have you never had to go to the DMV? Idk what else you could classify it as other than an inconvenience.
Suppressed because they don’t feel like getting an ID? Again… voting is important and adding a step is infringing their right to vote? You guys are starting to sound like the NRA.
An unnecessary step. Any restriction you impose is going to lower the number of people who vote. So the question becomes, is whatever imposition you're trying to enact worth the security to adds to the election process? In this case with no evidence of ANY illegals casting illegitimate votes I would say no.
This might be a surprise and I don’t really brag or talk about it but I work in counterintelligence for the DOD. We do tons of investigations. We talk to a ton of people and we weigh certain testimony more than others. One day someone with a bright idea said, these are pretty big decisions we are making and we making them based on testimony for a large part, are we verifying who these people are? Since then we have obtained ID for anyone we talk to. Someone asked the question why are we capturing ID now? Have people not been who they say they are… the answer will always be, who the fuck knows? So that’s my answer, who knows? It’s impossible to know. Stop carding for alcohol and tobacco, stop carding for everything. Then go back and try to prove if someone at Louie and Kelly’s purchased alcohol when shouldn’t have. There is no “proof” because there is no means to prove it.
This is a very long winded way of admitting you have no evidence of any illegals voting. Just because you feel like it must be happening doesn't mean it is. And without 1 single case of it having happened, it obviously isn't.
Welcome to politics, nothing new here.
I was born into poverty. I lived in the ghetto for 18 years. I had no heat, no hot water and really no running water except for one bath tub. I had to heat a bucket of water to clean myself. No phone, no Internet. I got my ass kicked for the being the white kid in the neighborhood. My garage was burned down because the dude in the projects I lived by wanted us white folk out of his neighborhood. But my best friends were from this neighborhood, my mom’s best friend was a hooker. I grew up with brown, yellow and all sort of other colors. I had sex with and eat at the tables of brown, yellow and all the colors. I’m still friends with some today. I know these people because I was one of these people. I know why they cant or don’t get an ID and it’s not because they are working 14 hours per day. Lol. Talking about some “behavioral economics”, lol. It’s stupid and lazy…. But Toronto has white hillbilly friends and family so he’s the expert on white hillbilly’s. Lol. You guys are a trip with your keyboard knowledge.
Ok? Sorry your childhood sucked?
Yeah some people are lazy. I don't know why that means you think that we should put an extra barrier in their way so that they have to earn it. If we had 10,000 illegals voting, if we had 1,000, hell if you could even point me to a single case I would understand. We don't
Is there any evidence of our elections being more secure in states that require voter ID vs those that don't? Georgia and Arizona both require ID yet those are two of the states Trump told his base were stolen in 2020? How?
