I would disagree on the flexibility. Today's worker is really interested in flexibility with their job. Many won't accept a job if there isn't flexibility to work from home some days or flex their hours. Companies are still struggling to fill positions to the point they are willing to be flexible whether it's fast food a professional position or something in between.
Not sure where you're at Gat, but in Indy, I can go into a number of BMV offices in the Indy area and get my drivers license or plates in 30 minutes or less. That's with 25 - 30 in line ahead of me. If someone really wants to vote, they will put up with a minor inconvenience. We all deal with inconveniences on a regular basis. It's part of life.
I took issue with one statement you made which is not tied to any previous discussions. Yes, anyone is flat wrong by assuming everyone who went to college is smarter than those who didn't. There's thousands of examples to support my position and you've chosen to ignore or dismiss them which is fine.
That Indiana BMV is slick. Quick and easy.
Work is inconvenient, paying bills are inconvenient… I could go on. But necessary.
And I’m fine with that. On both sides.
This isnt the court of law. I don’t need evidence and I don’t need voter fraud to decide to make a law. I just want to verify people that vote are who they say they are, what’s wrong with being proactive?
Here is my point. The likes of you and Toronto (and even myself) are as smart as your keyboards allow you unless you lived or experienced it. The very people you are thinking are disenfranchised are the people I was once and the very people I lived with my whole entire childhood and I still associate with to this day. It’s laughable how little you guys think you know but you have a link written by another guy that knows just as little. It’s a sad conedy.
And I really don’t care. I just want people to verify people are voting that are supposed to be.
Again, dont really care.
Define garbage?
For sure, but the demographic of people who are working 2/3 jobs aren't really getting much flexibility.
How do we get white and black demo more flexibility to vote?
Make the voting day a holiday, or move voting to a weekend day as less people work on the weekend.
The poors work weekends, Friday voting holiday sounds great.
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Who's to say the art history college grad isn't smart than a hairdresser?
And we know this because?
I'm just pointing out how liberals have absurdly low expectations for minorities and how that is linked to voter ID disdain.
Not true. The context of conversation was capacity to obtain and use ID. I called dems dumb because the assumption is it’s too hard. People on the board kept saying it so no link needed. I don’t care about how college educated you are, if you don’t have the capacity to use or obtain ID you are stupid. I know you live life one link at a time but you are lying dog faced pony soldier.
You don’t need links for that.
Your metric is garbage (as is your statement) because it's subjective. In that scenario, what is objective is that the art history grad paid six figures and went into debt for a useless degree and is making coffee for $15/ hr. The hairdresser paid a few thousand dollars to learn her craft and makes much better money. The fact that you can't acknowledge this is really strange.
We could just use common sense. Republicans seems to be able to and are fine with an extra step in voting while the dems can’t figure out how minorities can obtain free voter IDs… because it’s a hassle.
Using Gardner's multiple intelligence theory - I think we agree that the hair dresser who's making more money would be smarter in 1/8 intelligences (logic smart). But, plenty of examples of higher educated people who are smart people that don't make as much as others who did not have the same level of education. If the presumption is that in a vacuum all barista's with college degrees aren't as smart as hairdressers who make $100k a year then yes you are correct.
If you work 2/3 jobs you're going to have less free time than someone who has one job. Commuting time + working.And we know this because?
5% of the work force hold two jobs. Of that 5%, only 5% hold two full time jobs. For some who work multiple jobs, finding time to get an ID might be a little trickier, but it's doable. It just depends on how important they feel it is to vote.
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No, I think without any evidence that our elections are being influenced by illegal votes there's no reason to add more steps to the process that will have a negative effect on ANY voters. If somethings not broke don't fix it.
But, have your considered the vibez?
In theory, yes. What we don't know, are the variables. How many more days/hours those people work? Do they drive by or close by the BMV where they could stop in between both jobs? Is the second job on weekends when the BMV is closed? Is the BMV open on Saturdays?
At a minimum though, would you accept that people who have multiple jobs are less likely to have the time available to go wait at the government agency to obtain the ID needed to vote?
If it’s not broke don’t fix it isn’t a rule I go by. Things can always be improved. That’s mediocre thinking.
You said they’re lazy, not me. I said they are stuoid because you guys keep saying people don’t have the capacity to obtain or use an ID. I don’t necessarily acknowledge, I just don’t necessarily care about those things in regard to the convo. All can be true and I still would want voter ID.
I never said I was okay with it. Has little to do with the conversation and your grasping at straws and bringing up other things to try and prove a point that has nothing to do with voter ID. This is why I didn’t want to entertain this convo with you… it grows legs and then you guys think you’re entitled to my time and opinions about other matters like these. Stay on point.
Is it coincidence that every nation on the planet basically use voter ID? Is the whole world against the Democratic Party? We have the richest poor in the world.