Politics

[ndfanatic78]

Facts and reality don't give a flip about your emotional arguments. I've never said we shouldn't help those with gender identity issues, nor said we shouldn't be compassionate. I've said they need therapy and help, not everyone around them encouraging their delusion.

So you are saying feminine males or masculine women who don’t fit in with with “typical” males or females need treatment because they don’t want to fit into the predefined totally invented social norms? There have been societies through out history that have accepted that there aren’t just 2 genders that every person fits into just like there aren’t only 2 political identities that everyone fits into and we don’t need treatment so that we conform to your brainwashed ideas.

 

[ndfanatic78]

I saw this a while back and thought it was great. I have always enjoyed watching Bill Maher and his way of injecting humor into serious topics. Since I’m a science guy, I thought the trends he showed were interesting from many angles but there is one that I thought of in particular. Since human beings are animals (mammals to be specific), their main purpose for sex is to procreate the species. This is the underlying drive for all living creatures. What does the trend that Maher shows in his graph say about that and the future for our species?

it means shit. Before Christianity there were all types of people that were into all types of sexual copulation and societies grew and thrived. The indigenous communities of the US didn’t have the gender restrictions of the western Christians and thrived until the dirty unclean European’s brought disease and bigotry to their shores. The Greeks, the Romans, the Persians, the Egyptians, and Mesopotamians all were open to homosexuality and gender fluidity and they were all thriving civilizations.

 

[drayer54]

Be sure to google her party so you can take a position that she must resign immediately or that this is totally normal.

 

[Rockin’Irish]

Be sure to google her party so you can take a position that she must resign immediately or that this is totally normal.

Wow, her timing is amazing!

 

[GoIrish41]

Be sure to google her party so you can take a position that she must resign immediately or that this is totally normal.

No idea which party but she should resign.

 

[Bishop2b5]

So you are saying feminine males or masculine women who don’t fit in with with “typical” males or females need treatment because they don’t want to fit into the predefined totally invented social norms? There have been societies through out history that have accepted that there aren’t just 2 genders that every person fits into just like there aren’t only 2 political identities that everyone fits into and we don’t need treatment so that we conform to your brainwashed ideas.

At no time have I ever suggested any such thing. I'm well aware that lots of men aren't particularly masculine and lots of women aren't particularly feminine. I've never said they need treatment. I've said people with severe psychological disorders and gender identity issues need treatment and therapy, not encouragement to give in to their delusions. This is a classic strawman argument you made. You can't attack my position on its merits with facts and reason, so you misstate it, twist it, alter it into something much different that you can argue against.

As for your assertion that there have been societies throughout history who have accepted that there aren't just two genders, I challenge you to name a few. There have been societies that were tolerant of homosexuality, but the concept of multiple genders is something extremely rare to unknown in the past. There are two genders and a plethora of mental disorders and goofy, silly nonsense names made up by poorly adjusted people with issues or an unhealthy need for attention. There's not a single measurable, demonstrable, testable bit of evidence for anything beyond two. The rest is make believe nonsense.

 

[Bishop2b5]

No idea which party but she should resign.

She should, and she should also be prosecuted. Insider trading is a serious offense.

 

[Irish#1]

You know there is a difference between gender and sex?

Still born with the Y.

 

[Wild Bill]

it means shit. Before Christianity there were all types of people that were into all types of sexual copulation and societies grew and thrived. The indigenous communities of the US didn’t have the gender restrictions of the western Christians and thrived until the dirty unclean European’s brought disease and bigotry to their shores. The Greeks, the Romans, the Persians, the Egyptians, and Mesopotamians all were open to homosexuality and gender fluidity and they were all thriving civilizations.

We'll never truly be free until we can prance around pretending not to have penises and use our buttholes as sex organs without being oppressed by unclean Europeans.

 

[drayer54]

The Dems hired TikTok strategy let this one slip.

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

I hope ab2cmiller goes after Hawley. He totally deserves it.

 

[drayer54]

This is what you get with Democrats

 

[Irish#1]

This is what you get with Democrats

Well, it is Schumer.

 

[Bluto]

At no time have I ever suggested any such thing. I'm well aware that lots of men aren't particularly masculine and lots of women aren't particularly feminine. I've never said they need treatment. I've said people with severe psychological disorders and gender identity issues need treatment and therapy, not encouragement to give in to their delusions. This is a classic strawman argument you made. You can't attack my position on its merits with facts and reason, so you misstate it, twist it, alter it into something much different that you can argue against.

As for your assertion that there have been societies throughout history who have accepted that there aren't just two genders, I challenge you to name a few. There have been societies that were tolerant of homosexuality, but the concept of multiple genders is something extremely rare to unknown in the past. There are two genders and a plethora of mental disorders and goofy, silly nonsense names made up by poorly adjusted people with issues or an unhealthy need for attention. There's not a single measurable, demonstrable, testable bit of evidence for anything beyond two. The rest is make believe nonsense.

Gender fluidity or the idea of a “third” gender was/is a commonly accepted idea in Thailand, North and Meso America pre European contact and I believe India as well.

The Greeks and Romans were a bit more than “tolerant” of homosexuality. Lol.

Im surprised Desantis isn’t trying to ban the sale of clown fish.

 

[ndfanatic78]

At no time have I ever suggested any such thing. I'm well aware that lots of men aren't particularly masculine and lots of women aren't particularly feminine. I've never said they need treatment. I've said people with severe psychological disorders and gender identity issues need treatment and therapy, not encouragement to give in to their delusions. This is a classic strawman argument you made. You can't attack my position on its merits with facts and reason, so you misstate it, twist it, alter it into something much different that you can argue against.

As for your assertion that there have been societies throughout history who have accepted that there aren't just two genders, I challenge you to name a few. There have been societies that were tolerant of homosexuality, but the concept of multiple genders is something extremely rare to unknown in the past. There are two genders and a plethora of mental disorders and goofy, silly nonsense names made up by poorly adjusted people with issues or an unhealthy need for attention. There's not a single measurable, demonstrable, testable bit of evidence for anything beyond two. The rest is make believe nonsense.

I already named many.

 

[Bishop2b5]

I already named many.

No, you named a few cultures who were tolerant of homosexuality. That's a completely different thing than thinking there are several different genders.

 

[ndfanatic78]

No, you named a few cultures who were tolerant of homosexuality. That's a completely different thing than thinking there are several different genders.

Never said anything about several different genders. I said gender fluid. if your only issue is with children having reassignment surgery we can agree on that. If your issue is with homosexuality, men dressing in drag, feminine talking males, identifying as female rather than male or vice versa, or even grown adults choosing to do what ever they want to their own bodies we disagree. All the societies I listed had individuals with qualities I listed in their societies and for the most part were accepted by them, in some cases they were even elevated to the highest positions in those societies. Although for the most part gender reassignment surgery was not done because the technology was not around to give men breasts or to create an artificial penis or vagina there were still many that identified as other than the gender in which they were born into. Last as stated by another poster cultures within the First Nations of the Americas certainly did have categories for several types of genders although that was not my point.

 

[SeekNDestroy]

Never said anything about several different genders. I said gender fluid. if your only issue is with children having reassignment surgery we can agree on that. If your issue is with homosexuality, men dressing in drag, feminine talking males, identifying as female rather than male or vice versa, or even grown adults choosing to do what ever they want to their own bodies we disagree. All the societies I listed had individuals with qualities I listed in their societies and for the most part were accepted by them, in some cases they were even elevated to the highest positions in those societies. Although for the most part gender reassignment surgery was not done because the technology was not around to give men breasts or to create an artificial penis or vagina there were still many that identified as other than the gender in which they were born into. Last as stated by another poster cultures within the First Nations of the Americas certainly did have categories for several types of genders although that was not my point.

Also, Essos tolerated eunuchs.

 

[Irish#1]

Never said anything about several different genders. I said gender fluid. if your only issue is with children having reassignment surgery we can agree on that. If your issue is with homosexuality, men dressing in drag, feminine talking males, identifying as female rather than male or vice versa, or even grown adults choosing to do what ever they want to their own bodies we disagree. All the societies I listed had individuals with qualities I listed in their societies and for the most part were accepted by them, in some cases they were even elevated to the highest positions in those societies. Although for the most part gender reassignment surgery was not done because the technology was not around to give men breasts or to create an artificial penis or vagina there were still many that identified as other than the gender in which they were born into. Last as stated by another poster cultures within the First Nations of the Americas certainly did have categories for several types of genders although that was not my point.

Not speaking for Bishop, but it's not about men dressing in drag, feminine talking males, identifying as female rather than male or vice versa, or even grown adults choosing to do what ever they want to their own bodies. I don't care about that. It's about drag queens giving kids a lap dance at school and similar acts, graphic text books in our schools, as well as gender reassignment surgery. For some reason there are some who post here that can't seem to grasp that and think we're against all LGBQT because we have an issue with certain actions.

 

[Bishop2b5]

Never said anything about several different genders. I said gender fluid. if your only issue is with children having reassignment surgery we can agree on that. If your issue is with homosexuality, men dressing in drag, feminine talking males, identifying as female rather than male or vice versa, or even grown adults choosing to do what ever they want to their own bodies we disagree. All the societies I listed had individuals with qualities I listed in their societies and for the most part were accepted by them, in some cases they were even elevated to the highest positions in those societies. Although for the most part gender reassignment surgery was not done because the technology was not around to give men breasts or to create an artificial penis or vagina there were still many that identified as other than the gender in which they were born into. Last as stated by another poster cultures within the First Nations of the Americas certainly did have categories for several types of genders although that was not my point.

Of course you did.

So you are saying feminine males or masculine women who don’t fit in with with “typical” males or females need treatment because they don’t want to fit into the predefined totally invented social norms? There have been societies through out history that have accepted that there aren’t just 2 genders that every person fits into just like there aren’t only 2 political identities that everyone fits into and we don’t need treatment so that we conform to your brainwashed ideas.

You can't just become a man or woman, without any regard to overwhelming biological facts, simply by claiming you're one. It's not fundamentally different than claiming you can become a dog, a tree, or a tractor. All the dozens of "other genders" is irrational, made up, fairytale nonsense to let a very small percentage of maladjusted people claim they're normal. There are two genders and a plethora of mental disorders and made up, intentional antisocial nonsense.

If you want to pretend to be a walrus, or Napolean, or a talking cat, that's your business, but you have absolutely ZERO right to insist that I have to set aside all facts & reason, and play along with your delusion. When my children were little and insisted they were a dog or cat or princess, it was cute. That's what preschool kids do. When an adult man with a beard, a Y chromosome, and as penis insists he's a princess, well, it's BS.

You claim a few cultures from the past recognized more than two genders. Again, no. Few if any did. A few were tolerant of homosexuality and understood that some people were more or less feminine or masculine than was typical of their gender, but there were few if any who recognized more than male, female, and MAYBE one group of in-between. You're intentionally conflating two things - homosexuality and multiple genders.

However, for the sake of argument, let's say you're right: a few societies and cultures from throughout history have accepted that there are several different genders. So what? A small percentage of Native American tribes, or some ancient societies from the Middle East, Europe and Asia thought there were several different genders. So what? What does that prove? Weren't these the same societies that also believed in child labor, slavery, human sacrifice, or that their crops would only grow if they sacrificed a goat to the god of the harvest? That a few ancient cultures accepted anything is completely meaningless here.

 

[ndfanatic78]

Not speaking for Bishop, but it's not about men dressing in drag, feminine talking males, identifying as female rather than male or vice versa, or even grown adults choosing to do what ever they want to their own bodies. I don't care about that. It's about drag queens giving kids a lap dance at school and similar acts, graphic text books in our schools, as well as gender reassignment surgery. For some reason there are some who post here that can't seem to grasp that and think we're against all LGBQT because we have an issue with certain actions.

I would think we all can agree that adults of any sort should not be giving kids lap dances. Is that a real thing? I have heard of men dressing in typical women's apparel and reading books to kids at libraries which I have absolutely no issue with. If parents want to bring their kids to a library for story time and there are men in "drag" reading there is nothing wrong there.

I would also believe that the overwhelming majority of people on both sides would also agree that showing porno graphic scenes of sex in books to children would constitute a boundary that should be left to a parent and child. With that being said showing a picture of a naked person in a book that a child might see is debatable as there is nothing to be ashamed about the naked human body and there is scientific and artistic reasons for a naked body to be shown in a book. Again I think there would need to be a discussion with a parent before making that available to a child.

Last, the gender reassignment surgery issue I would say needs to be discussed because if an adult chooses to do something to their body (whether I may look at it as self mutilation and think one should be taught to love ones self) no matter how you identify gender wise it is up to that individual and they should be aloud to make their own decision. When it comes to children although I would totally lean towards them waiting until they are an adult to make a final decision. I can also where a parent could think that letting their child go ahead with it when they might see their child as tormented by being in the body they don't feel like is their own is in the best interest of the child. That is hard topic and I dont get why anyone would get angry with anyone else about these topics as long as we are discussing openly and with the best interest of the individuals at heart.

I can say there was one comment made, "We'll never truly be free until we can prance around pretending not to have penises and use our buttholes as sex organs without being oppressed by unclean Europeans." which you thought was funny which had nothing to do with what I was saying and was pretty degrading to homosexual men when the comment was made in regards to an honest comment I made. In that instance it is easy to see why some would not take you or others seriously about having an honest and open discussion on the subject matter and instead get defensive and hostile.

 

[ndfanatic78]

Of course you did.

You can't just become a man or woman, without any regard to overwhelming biological facts, simply by claiming you're one. It's not fundamentally different than claiming you can become a dog, a tree, or a tractor. All the dozens of "other genders" is irrational, made up, fairytale nonsense to let a very small percentage of maladjusted people claim they're normal. There are two genders and a plethora of mental disorders and made up, intentional antisocial nonsense.

If you want to pretend to be a walrus, or Napolean, or a talking cat, that's your business, but you have absolutely ZERO right to insist that I have to set aside all facts & reason, and play along with your delusion. When my children were little and insisted they were a dog or cat or princess, it was cute. That's what preschool kids do. When an adult man with a beard, a Y chromosome, and as penis insists he's a princess, well, it's BS.

You claim a few cultures from the past recognized more than two genders. Again, no. Few if any did. A few were tolerant of homosexuality and understood that some people were more or less feminine or masculine than was typical of their gender, but there were few if any who recognized more than male, female, and MAYBE one group of in-between. You're intentionally conflating two things - homosexuality and multiple genders.

However, for the sake of argument, let's say you're right: a few societies and cultures from throughout history have accepted that there are several different genders. So what? A small percentage of Native American tribes, or some ancient societies from the Middle East, Europe and Asia thought there were several different genders. So what? What does that prove? Weren't these the same societies that also believed in child labor, slavery, human sacrifice, or that their crops would only grow if they sacrificed a goat to the god of the harvest? That a few ancient cultures accepted anything is completely meaningless here.

I will disagree that someone has to identify as male or female as far as gender. I do see the fact as for science and medical reasons that there are 2 biological sexes, but even that totally excludes hermaphrodites and other people that might not have normal genitalia or typical reproductive organs.

Saying because I have a penis I should feel comfortable and ok with going to the bathroom and showering with other individuals with a penis or get lumped into other categories that are gender specific to males is incorrect to do to someone. It's not fantasy and it's not the same as pretending someone is a different species or even another person all together. That is intentionally conflating the issue. On that note I am not intentionally conflating any thing in any way. I am trying to carryout a very nuanced discussion that you seem unable to have without getting disgruntled that someone might identify outside what you define as normal. You seem to want to say any person identified as a man or woman biologically has to fit into your definitions or they are delusional, maladjusted, and need treatment.

Last why do you give two shits if a man with a beard, a Y chromosome, and penis wants to think of himself as a princess? My whole life I have dealt with Americans that believe the delusion that we are the greatest country in the world and all others are less than us and we have the right to go into any other country kill their women, children, and men and steal their natural resources in the name of democracy and free markets. That delusion seems a lot more harmful than some male thinking or wanting to be a princess.

 

[Irish#1]

I would think we all can agree that adults of any sort should not be giving kids lap dances. Is that a real thing? I have heard of men dressing in typical women's apparel and reading books to kids at libraries which I have absolutely no issue with. If parents want to bring their kids to a library for story time and there are men in "drag" reading there is nothing wrong there.

I would also believe that the overwhelming majority of people on both sides would also agree that showing porno graphic scenes of sex in books to children would constitute a boundary that should be left to a parent and child. With that being said showing a picture of a naked person in a book that a child might see is debatable as there is nothing to be ashamed about the naked human body and there is scientific and artistic reasons for a naked body to be shown in a book. Again I think there would need to be a discussion with a parent before making that available to a child.

Last, the gender reassignment surgery issue I would say needs to be discussed because if an adult chooses to do something to their body (whether I may look at it as self mutilation and think one should be taught to love ones self) no matter how you identify gender wise it is up to that individual and they should be aloud to make their own decision. When it comes to children although I would totally lean towards them waiting until they are an adult to make a final decision. I can also where a parent could think that letting their child go ahead with it when they might see their child as tormented by being in the body they don't feel like is their own is in the best interest of the child. That is hard topic and I dont get why anyone would get angry with anyone else about these topics as long as we are discussing openly and with the best interest of the individuals at heart.

I can say there was one comment made, "We'll never truly be free until we can prance around pretending not to have penises and use our buttholes as sex organs without being oppressed by unclean Europeans." which you thought was funny which had nothing to do with what I was saying and was pretty degrading to homosexual men when the comment was made in regards to an honest comment I made. In that instance it is easy to see why some would not take you or others seriously about having an honest and open discussion on the subject matter and instead get defensive and hostile.

Yes, that was a real thing. It was in the news. There were several posts about that.

Some of the books lefties are upset about being pulled or banned had illustrations that could be described as porn. Regardless, if it is straight or homosexual in nature it shouldn't be easily accessible to kids. It should be up to the parents to teach their kids about this in the privacy of their home.

I laughed at it because it illustrated the extreme that many think is entirely appropriate or should be appropriate.

 

[ndfanatic78]

Yes, that was a real thing. It was in the news. There were several posts about that.

Some of the books lefties are upset about being pulled or banned had illustrations that could be described as porn. Regardless, if it is straight or homosexual in nature it shouldn't be easily accessible to kids. It should be up to the parents to teach their kids about this in the privacy of their home.

I laughed at it because it illustrated the extreme that many think is entirely appropriate or should be appropriate.

I saw that there were books that were being removed from schools and that some leftists were upset they were being removed and that righties said they were porno graphic. I didn't get into it because it all seemed sensationalized and I wasn't going to go down that rabbit hole because it all seemed like propaganda to divide us and not pay attention to what is actually important. If it was porographic I would think there was legit reason for some to be offended, but in the end how many children were really affected by it and again isnt there more important things to worry about that would be damaging to our children. I am not by in any way saying they shouldn't be removed as I stated I am not going down that rabbit hole but I spend my time paying attention to other things that I would say are much more detrimental to children like the poisoned water and food the schools give to them or how to get treatment for the mentally ill that want to shoot up our schools or making sure they all have text books or that they all have clothes and shoes to wear to school.

Why shouldn't people be able to have anal sex with consensual partners? Why shouldn't those that feel more comfortable as being depicted as feminine be able to and what exactly is funny about unclean Europeans wiping out 80% of the indigenous people of North America through disease. I guess I just don't see the humor in any of that.

 

[Bishop2b5]

I will disagree that someone has to identify as male or female as far as gender. I do see the fact as for science and medical reasons that there are 2 biological sexes, but even that totally excludes hermaphrodites and other people that might not have normal genitalia or typical reproductive organs.

Let's do a thought experiment. Put 10 biological males and 100 biological females on an island with no contact with the outside world. Go back there 100 years later and you'll have a thriving population of hundreds of people. Now, put 10 biological males and 100 transgender women in that same scenario and when you go back in 100 years, you'll have nothing but 110 male skeletons.

There is NOTHING, no biological, genetic, or other physical, measurable, scientific evidence that would indicate there are more than two genders, nor that anyone identifying as a transgender male or female is anything other than the gender they were born as. Stop with the irrational, totally unscientific, unmeasurable, indemonstrable radical nonsense. Two genders. Period. All the rest is make believe.

Saying because I have a penis I should feel comfortable and ok with going to the bathroom and showering with other individuals with a penis or get lumped into other categories that are gender specific to males is incorrect to do to someone. It's not fantasy and it's not the same as pretending someone is a different species or even another person all together. That is intentionally conflating the issue. On that note I am not intentionally conflating any thing in any way.

Wow, imagine how a bunch of actual females feel about having a penis-totin' biological male with a set of balls hanging down below his "outie vag" invade their locker room and insist on undressing in front of them, watching them undress and use the bathroom, and shower with them.

I am trying to carryout a very nuanced discussion that you seem unable to have without getting disgruntled that someone might identify outside what you define as normal. You seem to want to say any person identified as a man or woman biologically has to fit into your definitions or they are delusional, maladjusted, and need treatment.

There's nothing nuanced about it. If you want to argue that some men and women are more or less masculine or effeminate than others, then I agree. If you want to argue that a man becomes a full-fledged woman because he just feels like one, then no. There's no nuance there. That's complete and utter 100% non-rational, non-scientific, non-factual BS. It doesn't matter what's popular right now or what you feel or what you and others want. Facts don't give a flip about any of that. It's simply not true.

Last why do you give two shits if a man with a beard, a Y chromosome, and penis wants to think of himself as a princess? My whole life I have dealt with Americans that believe the delusion that we are the greatest country in the world and all others are less than us and we have the right to go into any other country kill their women, children, and men and steal their natural resources in the name of democracy and free markets. That delusion seems a lot more harmful than some male thinking or wanting to be a princesss.

Other than a fondness for truth and objective reality, I don't. The problem is when this delusional person starts trying to push his issues on me and my family, and insisting that I have to play along with his delusion and change my life and grasp of reality to accommodate his fantasy. I can pretend to be Napolean if I want, but I can't reasonably expect you to address me as Mon General, only speak to me in French, and obey my commands.

 

[ndfanatic78]

Let's do a thought experiment. Put 10 biological males and 100 biological females on an island with no contact with the outside world. Go back there 100 years later and you'll have a thriving population of hundreds of people. Now, put 10 biological males and 100 transgender women in that same scenario and when you go back in 100 years, you'll have nothing but 110 male skeletons.

There is NOTHING, no biological, genetic, or other physical, measurable, scientific evidence that would indicate there are more than two genders, nor that anyone identifying as a transgender male or female is anything other than the gender they were born as. Stop with the irrational, totally unscientific, unmeasurable, indemonstrable radical nonsense. Two genders. Period. All the rest is make believe.



Wow, imagine how a bunch of actual females feel about having a penis-totin' biological male with a set of balls hanging down below his "outie vag" invade their locker room and insist on undressing in front of them, watching them undress and use the bathroom, and shower with them.



There's nothing nuanced about it. If you want to argue that some men and women are more or less masculine or effeminate than others, then I agree. If you want to argue that a man becomes a full-fledged woman because he just feels like one, then no. There's no nuance there. That's complete and utter 100% non-rational, non-scientific, non-factual BS. It doesn't matter what's popular right now or what you feel or what you and others want. Facts don't give a flip about any of that. It's simply not true.



Other than a fondness for truth and objective reality, I don't. The problem is when this delusional person starts trying to push his issues on me and my family, and insisting that I have to play along with his delusion and change my life and grasp of reality to accommodate his fantasy. I can pretend to be Napolean if I want, but I can't reasonably expect you to address me as Mon General, only speak to me in French, and obey my commands.

Sorry done with you. They are right you are just a pompous douche bag. Peace be with you

 

[Bishop2b5]

Sorry done with you. They are right you are just a pompous douche bag. Peace be with you

Nope, I just don't tolerate stupidity, emotional arguments, irrational nonsense, willful ignorance, and spin. Address my arguments with facts and logic, and I'm a nice guy. Bring a bunch of nonsense and lies and willful ignorance to the table and expect me to agree with it, and I'll bury you with reason and truth. If you don't like that, it doesn't make me a douchebag, it makes you a sore loser and on the wrong side of the issue.

 

[Bishop2b5]

Sorry done with you. They are right you are just a pompous douche bag. Peace be with you

If you're right, instead of bailing out and feebly trying to insult me, answer my points with facts. Put your big girl panties on and bring some facts, not just empty talking points, to the argument.

Tell us what biological, genetic, or other physical, measurable, scientific evidence would indicate there are more than two genders.

Use facts and logic and tell us what would happen if you put 10 biological males and 100 transgender females on an isolated island and returned in 100 years. Would there be a population there or would we not just find 110 male skeletons? And if just skeletons, would there be any scientific way to determine which were cis males and which were trans?

Can you give us any rational, sensical reason that any of us should be forced to play along with another person's fantasy or delusion?

Can you justify a biological male, especially one with normal male genitalia, forcing women to share a shower and locker room with him?

Now, if you're right and I'm just a misguided douche, you should have no trouble giving factual, rational, honest, convincing answers to these questions. Don't spin. Don't reword my questions and use a strawman argument. Don't dodge. Convince us that you're right and my position is wrong.

 

[ab2cmiller]

Wonder if police departments will be forced to stop reporting …… “we found an unidentified male body”

 

[Irish#1]

I saw that there were books that were being removed from schools and that some leftists were upset they were being removed and that righties said they were porno graphic. I didn't get into it because it all seemed sensationalized and I wasn't going to go down that rabbit hole because it all seemed like propaganda to divide us and not pay attention to what is actually important. If it was porographic I would think there was legit reason for some to be offended, but in the end how many children were really affected by it and again isnt there more important things to worry about that would be damaging to our children. I am not by in any way saying they shouldn't be removed as I stated I am not going down that rabbit hole but I spend my time paying attention to other things that I would say are much more detrimental to children like the poisoned water and food the schools give to them or how to get treatment for the mentally ill that want to shoot up our schools or making sure they all have text books or that they all have clothes and shoes to wear to school.

Why shouldn't people be able to have anal sex with consensual partners? Why shouldn't those that feel more comfortable as being depicted as feminine be able to and what exactly is funny about unclean Europeans wiping out 80% of the indigenous people of North America through disease. I guess I just don't see the humor in any of that.

I don’t care if people have anal sex. I was laughing at the absurdity of people running around naked having anal sex in public. It’s an extreme statement to poke fun at those who think there shouldn’t be any boundaries.

Our beliefs are much more closely aligned than you may realize.