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[drayer54]

Misleading headline from a clearly biased source.

Cack, do you honestly believe that county clerks solemnize weddings?

He thinks the newest Ambassador to Canada does those weddings…

 

[Bishop2b5]

It was all pointed out to him the first time he posted about the proposed bill.

Yep. Cack carpet bombs us with misleading, often totally false, nonsense and then gets mad when nobody takes him seriously. Then when you show him that what he posted was blatantly and indisputably wrong (or even an April Fool's joke he fell for), he claims he was just joking and stirring the pot for a reaction.

 

[ndfanatic78]

Who's letting anyone off the hook? The grifters are plenty on both sides of the fence and accept these favors all the time. I didn't vote for Trump either time and won't if he is the candidate again. I rarely vote for someone twice. I do my part to try and keep new blood flowing through congress so we don't have these issues. Blaming the system for someone accepting payments isn't hold anyone accountable. I'm all for fixing the system, but it still comes down to the person deciding which path they are going to take.

Officer: Do you know why I pulled you over?
Me: Because I was speeding?
Officer: That's correct. You were going 80 in a 55.
Me: Yes, but they built the car to go above the speed limit.
Officer: Yes sir, but it's called accountability. Ford didn't make you push the gas peal down a little more.

It's more than just voting. The candidates that show up on the ballot are usually already hand picked by the establishment. We need to get involved even before the primaries to make sure the candidates that are put on the ballots aren't already chosen representatives of the oligarchy. If look at the past 2 presidential races, and you can go back even further, not one single candidate was truly an out sider in either party. Bernie and Trump were the farthest fringe candidates for either party. One that has been in congress for decades, claims to be an independent, but has always caucused with the Dems and the other who was born with a silver spoon in his mouth, went to exclusive private schools with the other oligarchs, and had an Uncle so influential in the govt he was one of the first to be assigned to confiscate Tesla's documents when he died.

Beyond that we need to organize and be in the streets but as stated before they have done a marvelous job at keeping us separated. A perfect example is this the Tea Party protests and the BLM or Occupy Wall Street protests. All of them had very legitimate reasons for organizing and marching but all the news said was that they were a bunch of fringe crazy racists or a bunch of crazy thugs looking to vandalize. Depending on which side of the fence you were determined which narrative you believed but almost to a T if you were conservative you agreed with the Tea Party protests and were against the other 2 and the same for liberals being against the Tea Party. In both cases the ruling elite won and the people lost as usual.

 

[ulukinatme]

I'm sitting here wondering why the Tennessee three voted against the bill that significantly increased funding and increase state requirements for school safety measures. I thought it was about the kids.

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"Root cause." Ridiculous. You could take the guns away, they'll still target schools and have done so in other countries. This is the right move. Once schools are no longer easy targets they'll no longer be targets.

 

[TorontoGold]

School Shootings by Country 2026

Comprehensive data on school shootings by country through the years, including recent incidents like those in Serbia and Czechia.

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Stabbing Deaths by Country 2023 - Wisevoter

Death by stabbing is a tragically common occurrence in the world today. It is one of the leading causes of violent deaths, ranking in the top three alongside shootings and beatings. In 2018, stabbing accounted for over 10% of all homicides worldwide. The majority of these fatalities occurred in...

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Gun Deaths by Country 2024

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If people were going to use knives instead there be similar levels of knife related deaths in countries without the same gun freedoms? There were 281 fatal stabbings in the UK last year of all ages in all scenarios. There were 1,300 teenagers that died from guns inside of a school, that's not even counting just walking down the street.

A record number of America's kids were injured or killed by gunfire in 2022

More than 6,000 children and teens were injured or killed in shootings in 2022. What's contributing to the rise in gun violence?

www.usatoday.com

Fatal stabbings in England and Wales at highest level since records began

Figures from the Office for National Statistics show 282 homicides were committed using a knife or sharp instrument in the year to March 2022 - a 19% rise compared with the previous year.

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It's just a simple trade off, guns > kids. Kids aren't dying at the same rates from knives. There is no statistical basis to say murders were still happen at the same rates without guns.

 

[ab2cmiller]

Some gun control ideas seem very reasonable to me and I don't believe they are undue burdens. Additional waiting periods, age limits, assault weapons bans etc. I think some gun owners, if you asked them honestly, would not be opposed to some of those items. The problem is that there is a ton of fear of the "slippery slope".

With all that said, I am highly skeptical that any of those gun control ideas will result in any meaningful reduction in mass shootings.

 

[ulukinatme]

School Shootings by Country 2026

Comprehensive data on school shootings by country through the years, including recent incidents like those in Serbia and Czechia.

worldpopulationreview.com

Stabbing Deaths by Country 2023 - Wisevoter

Death by stabbing is a tragically common occurrence in the world today. It is one of the leading causes of violent deaths, ranking in the top three alongside shootings and beatings. In 2018, stabbing accounted for over 10% of all homicides worldwide. The majority of these fatalities occurred in...

wisevoter.com

Gun Deaths by Country 2024

worldpopulationreview.com

If people were going to use knives instead there be similar levels of knife related deaths in countries without the same gun freedoms? There were 281 fatal stabbings in the UK last year of all ages in all scenarios. There were 1,300 teenagers that died from guns inside of a school, that's not even counting just walking down the street.

A record number of America's kids were injured or killed by gunfire in 2022

More than 6,000 children and teens were injured or killed in shootings in 2022. What's contributing to the rise in gun violence?

www.usatoday.com

Fatal stabbings in England and Wales at highest level since records began

Figures from the Office for National Statistics show 282 homicides were committed using a knife or sharp instrument in the year to March 2022 - a 19% rise compared with the previous year.

news.sky.com

It's just a simple trade off, guns > kids. Kids aren't dying at the same rates from knives. There is no statistical basis to say murders were still happen at the same rates without guns.

That 1,300 number did not come from school shootings. That was the figure for the total number of teens killed by guns, according to the archive.

Of all kids affected by gun violence last year, a small percentage were shot at school.
In 2022, there were 50 school shootings that resulted in injuries or deaths, according to Education Week. At least 31 children were killed in the shootings, including 19 murdered at Robb Elementary School in Uvalde, Texas.

Dr. Samaa Kemal, a pediatric emergency medicine physician at Lurie Children's Hospital of Chicago, said contributing factors also include the worsening mental health crisis among kids and lingering harships of the COVID-19 pandemic, such as financial stresses, decreased community-based resources and increased social isolation.

I'm not advocating that schools are safe by any means, quite the opposite. Even if school shootings are a small percentage of the homicides, they need to be fortified to prevent psychos from using them in their murder/suicides. That said, the 1,300 number is quite alarming if true and you wonder why the media doesn't report on that if so. By all accounts in the article it sounds like a lot of the guns aren't properly secured. I'd be interested to know what the circumstances are for all these shootings, not all of them are accidental discharges. They said those numbers don't even include suicides.

 

[TorontoGold]

That 1,300 number did not come from school shootings. That was the figure for the total number of teens killed by guns, according to the archive.




I'm not advocating that schools are safe by any means, quite the opposite. Even if school shootings are a small percentage of the homicides, they need to be fortified to prevent psychos from using them in their murder/suicides. That said, the 1,300 number is quite alarming if true and you wonder why the media doesn't report on that if so. By all accounts in the article it sounds like a lot of the guns aren't properly secured. I'd be interested to know what the circumstances are for all these shootings, not all of them are accidental discharges. They said those numbers don't even include suicides.

Oops, my bad. Looks like the figure is 40 people were killed in schools in 2022.

School Shootings Over Time: Incidents, Injuries, and Deaths

Explore the data on school shootings that have resulted in injuries or deaths.

www.edweek.org

 

[ulukinatme]

Oops, my bad. Looks like the figure is 40 people were killed in schools in 2022.

School Shootings Over Time: Incidents, Injuries, and Deaths

Explore the data on school shootings that have resulted in injuries or deaths.

www.edweek.org

Right. 40 is still too many though, 1 is too many, which is why the schools need protected. It should be the safest place for kids, period.
There also needs to be media attention on that 1,300 number though, and why so many dumbasses don't have their guns secured.

 

[ndfanatic78]

Right. 40 is still too many though, 1 is too many, which is why the schools need protected. It should be the safest place for kids, period.
There also needs to be media attention on that 1,300 number though, and why so many dumbasses don't have their guns secured.

But Uvalde has armed cops on patrol at the school and they did nothing. Adding more guns to schools and police who tend to over react to situations doesn’t seem to be the answer. I am also not for gun bans. I am for better mental health outreach and more access for ways to improve your life and status. More guns around kids and more under trained individuals who tend to bust and harass kids already doesn’t seem to be the answer.

 

[ulukinatme]

But Uvalde has armed cops on patrol at the school and they did nothing. Adding more guns to schools and police who tend to over react to situations doesn’t seem to be the answer. I am also not for gun bans. I am for better mental health outreach and more access for ways to improve your life and status. More guns around kids and more under trained individuals who tend to bust and harass kids already doesn’t seem to be the answer.

I didn't say adding more guns is the answer or the only answer. Again, the venue remains the same because it's an easy target. If you take steps to no longer make it an easy target then they'll quit being attacked.

 

[Sea Turtle]

What do you guys think about RFK JR. and his candidacy?

 

[ndfanatic78]

What do you guys think about RFK JR. and his candidacy?

All for it but the democrats will never let him win and if they do they will hand cuff him from making any of the changes he is proposing.

 

[Sea Turtle]

All for it but the democrats will never let him win and if they do they will hand cuff him from making any of the changes he is proposing.

I'm a Republican and am intrigued by it. So much so that I signed up for his campaigns newsletter to find out more about his vision for America. I'm willing to listen to what he has to say.

If I like him, I hope you're wrong and they don't 'Bernie' him.

 

[GoIrish41]

All for it but the democrats will never let him win and if they do they will hand cuff him from making any of the changes he is proposing.

He’s a kook!

 

[TorontoGold]

He’s a kook!

Hey, he's just bringing to light the many documented cases of autism that are caused by vaccines. It's good to have a political outsider like him in politics.

 

[Irish#1]

It's just a simple trade off, guns > kids. Kids aren't dying at the same rates from knives. There is no statistical basis to say murders were still happen at the same rates without guns.

I imagine if guns were outlawed the number of incidents with Knives would go up considerably.

 

[GoIrish41]

I imagine if guns were outlawed the number of incidents with Knives would go up considerably.

Based on what? The massive rate of knife violence in nations that prohibit guns? Or just your keen intuition?

 

[ulukinatme]

Based on what? The massive rate of knife violence in nations that prohibit guns? Or just your keen intuition?

The weapons change, the venue remains the same: School attacks in China - Wikipedia

 

[TorontoGold]

I imagine if guns were outlawed the number of incidents with Knives would go up considerably.

Under that assumption, knife violence per capita would be lower in the US due to the availability of guns. That is not the case.

Look at the stabbing deaths, using the assumption that lower gun ownership would lead to more knife deaths we would see stabbings lower than other countries since they don't have the same access to guns. That is not true.

Stabbing Deaths by Country 2023 - Wisevoter

Death by stabbing is a tragically common occurrence in the world today. It is one of the leading causes of violent deaths, ranking in the top three alongside shootings and beatings. In 2018, stabbing accounted for over 10% of all homicides worldwide. The majority of these fatalities occurred in...

wisevoter.com

 

[Bishop2b5]

 

[GoIrish41]

The weapons change, the venue remains the same: School attacks in China - Wikipedia

The same year in the United States (2010) there were 30,000 gun deaths in the United States. 30+% of them were homicides. Also, China has more than a billion more people. This “spate” of attacks would be a drop in the bucket in the US.

From your article, the school violence at the Chinese school that is compared to Sandy Hook had a big disparity in deaths, which can be explained by gun control laws between the two countries. The venue is the same … the results are much different.

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

WATCH Revolting Trump Ad Attacking DeSantis 'Pudding Fingers' Airs on CNN Right After Generic Viagra Spot.mp4

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New Trump ad against DeSanctimonious

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

When you realize you have made a very big mistake.

 

[TorontoGold]

WATCH Revolting Trump Ad Attacking DeSantis 'Pudding Fingers' Airs on CNN Right After Generic Viagra Spot.mp4

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New Trump ad against DeSanctimonious

Another misleading troll post from Cack, it's not a revolting ad, it's gold.

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

Another misleading troll post from Cack, it's not a revolting ad, it's gold.

I made that ad personally. I’m 💯 percent the sole proprietor of its content and meaning. Trumps Super PAC paid me a shit ton of money to make that. Clearly I’m biased. I should have thought about how it would be construed by every poster in this thread and provided a deep context along with the Ad making sure everyone knows my intent behind it.

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

When you realize you have made a very big mistake.

Unable to turn his mic off anymore now. They fucked up.

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

Unable to turn his mic off anymore now. They fucked up.

People in this country, on both sides of the aisle, couldn't name their own state rep right now if you asked them but they know who these two guys are. However they feel about it.

The part that really gets me is there were three and they let the white lady stay but expelled the two black dudes. Talk about miscalculation and showing your ass.

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

People in this country, on both sides of the aisle, couldn't name their own state rep right now if you asked them but they know who these two guys are. However they feel about it.

The part that really gets me is there were three and they let the white lady stay but expelled the two black dudes. Talk about miscalculation and showing your ass.

I’ve been repeatedly assured race had nothing to do with it.

These guys seem like they have our best interests at heart

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

"Please forgive me if my comments do not come across as Christ Like" is how I start 5 sentences a day.

More than that if my mother in law is around.