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[Irish#1]

Welcome to the resistance. You've become acquainted with the standard process, within the next day or so you'll receive a post saying you're "overreacting" or have a "hard on" for Biden/Psaki or whatever boogeyman has been chosen. That'll conclude your engagement on this subject. Pink pussy hat has been mailed to your PO box.

The resistance? lol

You were like that army with a full on frontal attack storming across Europe while Cheetos man was in office. Now your emperor has shown to have no clothes and you've suddenly become the resistance?

 

[BrownerandFry]

That isn't what he said, he said it was RECORD BREAKING. His emphasis, not mine, which a quick google search will quickly show is an outright falsehood. Report back soon!

Just visualize this.

Some gap toothed hillbilly (they are a thing, I've seen many of them) from some academic bastion, say Alabama arrives on this board and says There has never been a National Champion at Notre Dame or a Heisman Trophy Winner.

I would think you can anticipate what the board druids would say.

When contrfronted with the facts, the ig'nant gap toothed hillbilly would say "But that was before I was born!"

So, I am sure the board druids would be more than okay with that and break out some cheap Boone's farm, RC Cola and Brunswick stew for the hilliblly, or not.

It would be fun to watch.

I am nonplussed by factual misstatements, but we may be post-factuual in this millieu.

I am SURE of this, you cannot fix Stupid or Lazy (thank you Ron White.)

 

[TorontoGold]

The resistance? lol

You were like that army with a full on frontal attack storming across Europe while Cheetos man was in office. Now your emperor has shown to have no clothes and you've suddenly become the resistance?

Sorry should have italics on it. Like I've said numerous times, I will never support Biden/Harris. You don't see me in here correcting grammar or bickering over exaggerations made by IE's #Squad.

Go nuts go wild do what you need to do. Biden is an abject clown, because I prefer him to the previous doofus doesn't require me to respond to everyone's criticisms like the squad did with Trump. I will only vigorously defend MF, as he is a good man.

 

[Polish Leppy 22]

I'm old enough to remember when stock market gains were trumpeted as a huge success. Now? Crickets. I wonder what changed.

The stock market is one thing, but it's not the only thing. When I mentioned those stock market gains pre Covid, it coincided with low unemployment, rising wages, GDP growth, and a reality where we had more open jobs than people available to fill them. We aren't close to that in 2021.

 

[Armyirish47]

Man are you triggered.

Inflation is really really really high.

Soooooooo triggered.


Indeed, the highest in one random person's lifetime!

 

[ab2cmiller]

Soooooooo triggered.


Indeed, the highest in one random person's lifetime!

That would be record breaking.

 

[ab2cmiller]

We have also been experiencing record breaking illegal border crossings and record breaking federal spending

Record breaking

Record breaking

 

[Armyirish47]

We have also been experiencing record breaking illegal border crossings and record breaking federal spending

Record breaking

Record breaking

We can't know if it was record breaking until we know how old you are or when you lived.

 

[TorontoGold]

The stock market is one thing, but it's not the only thing. When I mentioned those stock market gains pre Covid, it coincided with low unemployment, rising wages, GDP growth, and a reality where we had more open jobs than people available to fill them. We aren't close to that in 2021.

Right and when you mentioned it you doubled back on the tremendous stock gains because "well he was president" which is why it's ridiculous to claim any president gets brownie points for stock market performance. The wage gain thing is interesting too because per the census data it looks like growth was lower than both GWB and Clinton...so I guess congrats on beating Barry. Workers share of corporate profits has been steadily falling for years, so unless a president makes an impact on that I don't think a true gain can be claimed. Presidents of both parties have been in the corporate pocket for years.

https://www.atlantafed.org/chcs/wage-growth-tracker?panel=2

 

[Irish#1]

Soooooooo triggered.


Indeed, the highest in one random person's lifetime!

Troll, troll, troll your boat, gently down the stream, merrily, merrily, merrily, merrily, life is but a dream.

 

[Armyirish47]

Troll, troll, troll your boat, gently down the stream, merrily, merrily, merrily, merrily, life is but a dream.

I admire your consistency.

 

[BrownerandFry]

We have also been experiencing record breaking illegal border crossings and record breaking federal spending

Record breaking

Record breaking

Ah, a statistical maven! Shout out to Greg Curme, my stat prof at that school in Northern Indiana! Love ya Greg!

In how many of the administrations since 1900 have we experienced RECORD BREAKIN DJIA?

In how many of the adminstrations since 1900 have we expereienced RECORD BREAKING FEDERAL SPENDING

In how many of the adminstrations since 1900 have we experienced RECORD BREAKING Illegal border crossings?


I'm asking for a friend!! Merry Christmas!

 

[BrownerandFry]

Right and when you mentioned it you doubled back on the tremendous stock gains because "well he was president" which is why it's ridiculous to claim any president gets brownie points for stock market performance. The wage gain thing is interesting too because per the census data it looks like growth was lower than both GWB and Clinton...so I guess congrats on beating Barry. Workers share of corporate profits has been steadily falling for years, so unless a president makes an impact on that I don't think a true gain can be claimed. Presidents of both parties have been in the corporate pocket for years.

https://www.atlantafed.org/chcs/wage-growth-tracker?panel=2

I have a goose sauce gander sauce question here.

If as, an expert once said "it's ridiculous to claim any president gets brownie points for stock market performance."

Soooooooooooo, then how is it appropriate to "clam any president gets grades for Inflation perfomance?'

YVT

a sleepy not that wokie anti globalist libtard

 

[TorontoGold]

I have a goose sauce gander sauce question here.

If as, an expert once said "it's ridiculous to claim any president gets brownie points for stock market performance."

Soooooooooooo, then how is it appropriate to "clam any president gets grades for Inflation perfomance?'

YVT

a sleepy not that wokie anti globalist libtard

Never said any president gets grades for inflations performance. Keep up.

 

[Polish Leppy 22]

Right and when you mentioned it you doubled back on the tremendous stock gains because "well he was president" which is why it's ridiculous to claim any president gets brownie points for stock market performance. The wage gain thing is interesting too because per the census data it looks like growth was lower than both GWB and Clinton...so I guess congrats on beating Barry. Workers share of corporate profits has been steadily falling for years, so unless a president makes an impact on that I don't think a true gain can be claimed. Presidents of both parties have been in the corporate pocket for years.

https://www.atlantafed.org/chcs/wage...racker?panel=2

That's inaccurate. I've consistently said that the president doesn't control things like the stock market, gas prices, GDP growth, unemployment, etc. What I've always said is that the president's policies can impact all these things, both in the positive and the negative. The type of economic growth we saw with Trump's policies pre Covid was stuff we hadn't seen in a long time.

People who want to throw a parade because of the stock market right now, given everything else going on, is really shortsighted. It would be comparable to a 5-7 football team gloating about how they're a top 10 kickoff return team.

 

[TorontoGold]

That's inaccurate. I've consistently said that the president doesn't control things like the stock market, gas prices, GDP growth, unemployment, etc. What I've always said is that the president's policies can impact all these things, both in the positive and the negative. The type of economic growth we saw with Trump's policies pre Covid was stuff we hadn't seen in a long time.

People who want to throw a parade because of the stock market right now, given everything else going on, is really shortsighted. It would be comparable to a 5-7 football team gloating about how they're a top 10 kickoff return team.

https://www.macrotrends.net/2481/sto...e-by-president

Even though you touted Trump's stock market performance from his policies in the past, I'm glad you've walked that back after seeing the pretty mediocre performance compared to other presidents (even accounting for COIVD!).


https://data.worldbank.org/indicator...G?locations=US

What's that GDP growth? Oh, Obama had a higher number in 2015 then Trump ever had. GWB had a higher peak than both of them. Slick? Oh he topped all three of his successors. RR had the highest % growth in the timeline I used (1961 to Present).

https://www.multpl.com/us-labor-forc...icipation-rate

Labour force participation rate, a good one, so Trump actually did better here than Barry. He was able to get the rate up to....rates we saw in 2013ish. Under each president since Clinton/GWB it's fallen.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/rrapier...h=292b3e2a1d28

Ah, yes, Gasoline prices, known to be directly impacted by a president. Well, as you can see....Trump didn't do anything special here if you want to believe that a president should be judged on it. I'm guessing you hate GWB then.

https://www.multpl.com/us-long-term-unemployment-rate

Long term unemployment rate, ok so Trump was able to get it to levels that hadn't been seen since pre-Great Recession. As you can see based on prior economic cycles, you can overlay an economic cycle with this rate and point out the peaks and valleys. So the level which Trump got it to is similar to 2007ish.

https://www.multpl.com/unemployment

Unemployment rate, here is one that Trump was president for that reached a level that had not been seen since 1969ish and was slightly better than 2000.

TLDR - If you were born in late 2015 congrats, you are correct Trump did things that had not been seen in your lifetime. If you were born prior to 2015, you'd have likely seen better numbers for any of the metrics you mentioned by any of the previous presidents. If you're going to parrot talking points it's best to at least do ones that aren't as easy to clown on.

 

[Polish Leppy 22]

https://www.macrotrends.net/2481/sto...e-by-president

Even though you touted Trump's stock market performance from his policies in the past, I'm glad you've walked that back after seeing the pretty mediocre performance compared to other presidents (even accounting for COIVD!).


https://data.worldbank.org/indicator...G?locations=US

What's that GDP growth? Oh, Obama had a higher number in 2015 then Trump ever had. GWB had a higher peak than both of them. Slick? Oh he topped all three of his successors. RR had the highest % growth in the timeline I used (1961 to Present).

https://www.multpl.com/us-labor-forc...icipation-rate

Labour force participation rate, a good one, so Trump actually did better here than Barry. He was able to get the rate up to....rates we saw in 2013ish. Under each president since Clinton/GWB it's fallen.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/rrapier...h=292b3e2a1d28

Ah, yes, Gasoline prices, known to be directly impacted by a president. Well, as you can see....Trump didn't do anything special here if you want to believe that a president should be judged on it. I'm guessing you hate GWB then.

https://www.multpl.com/us-long-term-unemployment-rate

Long term unemployment rate, ok so Trump was able to get it to levels that hadn't been seen since pre-Great Recession. As you can see based on prior economic cycles, you can overlay an economic cycle with this rate and point out the peaks and valleys. So the level which Trump got it to is similar to 2007ish.

https://www.multpl.com/unemployment

Unemployment rate, here is one that Trump was president for that reached a level that had not been seen since 1969ish and was slightly better than 2000.

TLDR - If you were born in late 2015 congrats, you are correct Trump did things that had not been seen in your lifetime. If you were born prior to 2015, you'd have likely seen better numbers for any of the metrics you mentioned by any of the previous presidents. If you're going to parrot talking points it's best to at least do ones that aren't as easy to clown on.

1) I didn't walk anything back. I said the stock market is one of several factors to weigh when looking at the big picture of the US economy.

2) Obama had 1 year out of 8 that brought GDP above 3% and everything else was putrid, between 1 and 2 percent. We were stuck in the mud for the better part of 8 years.

3) Labor participation rate continues to drop, but way to acknowledge something.

4) Stop putting words in my mouth and stick to the numbers. Try showing us all how smart you are by depicting what gas prices were in 2020 compared to where they are now. Hello, Keystone pipeline.

5) You forgot record low unemployment numbers for women and minorities during Trump's tenure. Good thing I'm here for ya.

6) Your sarcasm is weak, but we should expect that from a Canadian troll. In the same post you mentioned that Trump brought unemployment to a level we haven't seen since 1969, but had I been born before 2015 that wouldn't be the case. You been spending your free time with Browner?

 

[TorontoGold]

1) I didn't walk anything back. I said the stock market is one of several factors to weigh when looking at the big picture of the US economy.

2) Obama had 1 year out of 8 that brought GDP above 3% and everything else was putrid, between 1 and 2 percent. We were stuck in the mud for the better part of 8 years.

3) Labor participation rate continues to drop, but way to acknowledge something.

4) Stop putting words in my mouth and stick to the numbers. Try showing us all how smart you are by depicting what gas prices were in 2020 compared to where they are now. Hello, Keystone pipeline.

5) You forgot record low unemployment numbers for women and minorities during Trump's tenure. Good thing I'm here for ya.

6) Your sarcasm is weak, but we should expect that from a Canadian troll. In the same post you mentioned that Trump brought unemployment to a level we haven't seen since 1969, but had I been born before 2015 that wouldn't be the case. You been spending your free time with Browner?

You literally said "The type of economic growth we saw with Trump's policies pre Covid was stuff we hadn't seen in a long time."

Every metric you had initially mentioned saw numbers that had been reached in the years - 2015/2013/2007 and then the unemployment rate 1969. So yes Trump was president when unemployment hit it's lowest mark. Otherwise? He was average to below average.

"stick to the numbers" - Won't address any claims with numbers, solid! Can you post any numbers to support your claims of "economic growth we haven't seen in a long time" or?? We've already shown that GDP/Markets/Participation rate weren't anything special, so I'm curious on what you can come up with.

"Canadian troll" - I posted sources with numbers to your claims? haha

 

[BrownerandFry]

apropos stock markets and presidents

https://www.usatoday.com/story/money...ars/114675662/

the best part is that silent Calvin Coolidge had the best scorecard and Hoover, who succeeded him, the worst!!!

Ol Cal, of whom it was said "It looks like he was weaned on a pickle" passed the baton at just the right time, when the pus was forming that popped in October '29.

 

[ulukinatme]

A lot of us here were in diapers or weren't even born the last time inflation was this high. The numbers are significant.

 

[BrownerandFry]

Nobody is against facts yet you are now what the fifth poster who has felt the need to weigh in? It wasn't technically inaccurate, it was wildly and blatantly false in a post where the poster was bragging about how they were the one arguing facts. And I'm beating the dead horse? This is high comedy.

In a reasonable world Polish would have simply replied with "You know what, I got carried away with my lib pwning and drastically misstated the current level of inflation in my fact finding overzealousness. My bad"

But in OUR world not only did that not happen but we have to dig in and form a goon squad because heaven forbid one of our tribe be exposed as wrong. Again, high comedy.

At least you didn't give us another one of your homespun yarns of yore from Pleasantville to drive home your non point this time, thanks for clearly giving us just your opinion about the causes of inflation at the moment with all the value that entails.

uh, oh, you want to really start a ruckus, Army?

Try fomenting a discussion on the root causes of inflation from, oh say, '73-'82. Reckon you'd be shocked by the responses you get.

Beware the posting gospel according to Simon and Garfunkel

"A man hears what he wants to hear
and disregards the rest."

Good luck, and DUCK!

 

[Polish Leppy 22]

You literally said "The type of economic growth we saw with Trump's policies pre Covid was stuff we hadn't seen in a long time."

Every metric you had initially mentioned saw numbers that had been reached in the years - 2015/2013/2007 and then the unemployment rate 1969. So yes Trump was president when unemployment hit it's lowest mark. Otherwise? He was average to below average.

"stick to the numbers" - Won't address any claims with numbers, solid! Can you post any numbers to support your claims of "economic growth we haven't seen in a long time" or?? We've already shown that GDP/Markets/Participation rate weren't anything special, so I'm curious on what you can come up with.

"Canadian troll" - I posted sources with numbers to your claims? haha

I've posted those economic numbers here more than once and since you've joined. If you're that interested, go back and read them for yourself. Otherwise, you're just trolling and I'm not biting.

 

[TorontoGold]

I've posted those economic numbers here more than once and since you've joined. If you're that interested, go back and read them for yourself. Otherwise, you're just trolling and I'm not biting.

The onus is on you to support your claim. I posted stats that showed your claims were not true. If there is data that shows growth we haven't seen in a long time then show it. I've shown that GDP, Markets, Labour participation rates, and gas prices (under Trump, remember we're talking about Trump not JB) have seen levels we've seen quite recently. Yes Trump was president with an unemployment level that hadn't been seen since 1969.

So, can you show it? Trolling would be throwing out baseless claims without support and not backing them up. I've provided data, still waiting for you.

 

[Bishop2b5]

San Francisco mayor says we must stop tolerating 'bull---- that has destroyed our city' (msn.com)

In a stunning development, the mayor of San Fransisco has finally realized that a hands-off approach to crime, being tolerant of bad behavior, and doing all you can to keep the police from doing their job has led to some problems in her city, and now wants to take a more law & order approach. Even the mayor of what's probably the most liberal city in the US has finally grasped what the rest of us have known all along.

 

[irishff1014]

San Francisco mayor says we must stop tolerating 'bull---- that has destroyed our city' (msn.com)

In a stunning development, the mayor of San Fransisco has finally realized that a hands-off approach to crime, being tolerant of bad behavior, and doing all you can to keep the police from doing their job has led to some problems in her city, and now wants to take a more law & order approach. Even the mayor of what's probably the most liberal city in the US has finally grasped what the rest of us have known all along.

One thing you can't fix is stupid. And the Dems are proving that.

 

[Bishop2b5]

Pelosi slams 'attitude of lawlessness' in San Francisco, says 'I don't know' where it comes from (msn.com)

Nancy Pelosi was asked about the surge in crime in San Fransisco and the mayor's call to get tougher on crime. She agreed that the lawlessness and violence can't be tolerated and said, "It's absolutely outrageous. Obviously it cannot continue. But the fact is that there is an attitude of lawlessness in our country that springs from I don't know where… and we cannot have that lawlessness become the norm."

She doesn't know where it came from. Wow. Umm, Nancy, the rest of us know. The irony and lack of awareness or responsibility on her part are epic.

 

[Irish#1]

Pelosi slams 'attitude of lawlessness' in San Francisco, says 'I don't know' where it comes from (msn.com)

Nancy Pelosi was asked about the surge in crime in San Fransisco and the mayor's call to get tougher on crime. She agreed that the lawlessness and violence can't be tolerated and said, "It's absolutely outrageous. Obviously it cannot continue. But the fact is that there is an attitude of lawlessness in our country that springs from I don't know where… and we cannot have that lawlessness become the norm."

She doesn't know where it came from. Wow. Umm, Nancy, the rest of us know. The irony and lack of awareness or responsibility on her part are epic.

I'm guessing she has no mirrors in her houses.

 

[Irish#1]

This is so funny. Lady has an ago.

CNN commentator Mary Katherine Ham reacts to Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez's tweet where she claims Republicans are "creepy weirdos" and upset they can't date her following her trip to Florida.

 

[Blazers46]

I’m baffled by the lack of Jan 6 anniversary posts. I’m also baffled why the “insurrection” is lacking in insurrectionists charged a year later. The biggest assault on American democracy has lead to a bunch of fines and ankle bracelets.

 

[ulukinatme]

I’m baffled by the lack of Jan 6 anniversary posts. I’m also baffled why the “insurrection” is lacking in insurrectionists charged a year later. The biggest assault on American democracy has lead to a bunch of fines and ankle bracelets.

I miss Norm.