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Chicago what is your opinion on tariffs?
Chicago what is your opinion on tariffs?
Many would say tariffs are a thing of the past that globalization is the way things.
I am for mechantilism and doing things in house unless we just don't have the resources. So I am for bigger tariffs.
We technically still have tariffs but they are like 2 percent. Before Richard Nixon we had tariffs that were very large.
Basically say something cost $1 to make in the US but 50 cents in Mexico and 30 cents in Taiwan. You may have a tariff at the border that essentially brings the cost up of the imports so they cost $1.
Before Nixon companies figured how produce overseas we can just make it here it will cost the same and then we have to go through all the shipping logistics.
Now we sign all these free trades but countries the stick it to us with a value added tax or VAT. It functions like sales tax but basically through each stage production a small tax is added. It ends up functioning like a tariff.
We have a billion dollar a day trade deficit so we import more than we export. If you do double entry book keeping with public date being private savings then with kind of trade deficit we need a 350 billionair deficit for a public and private sector to balance out. So basically even if we ever have a balance budget it be starving the economy 350 billion dollars.
I cant agree that tariffs would help, what if your buying is a screw, if china produces it for 50 cents instead of a hundred, the machine just gets that much cheaper, making what it sells cheaper, increasing demand, it helps overall,when you look big picture.
You have correlation on your side, but causation, i dont know.Yea if tariffs don't work does every country including Canada VAT tax which functions like a tariff.
There was formula in the United States that sustained greatest period of middle class growth from world war II until President Reagan.
We had high tax for income making over 3 to 4 million in today's dollars.
We had import tariffs.
We had a great deal of investment of American infastructure.
The American median income grew by 75 percent between the end of ww2 and the 1980 it has grown just 1 percent since 1980
Caterpillar was poised to sell BILLIONS of $$ in equipment into China about 15 yrs ago...China slapped a 40 %tax/levy/tarriff on the importation of these machines...so Caterpillar builds a plant in China to avoid this.
whats worse is they are selling the machines built in that Chinese plant back into the USA now.
there is no such thing as "free trade", not even fair trade, not with China, and not with anyone.
You have correlation on your side, but causation, i dont know.
Causation is a fair point. Things are not often as simple as the seem. The fact is the problems today are probably not as simple as reverting back to John F Kennedy policies is going to simply fix everything.
Let me ask you something. Years back my great grandmother who is pushing 100 was buying her prescription drugs in Canada. For some reason we could buy the exact same drug for a fraction of the cost. Does Canada set the drug prices and control the cost?
Caterpillar was poised to sell BILLIONS of $$ in equipment into China about 15 yrs ago...China slapped a 40 %tax/levy/tarriff on the importation of these machines...so Caterpillar builds a plant in China to avoid this.
whats worse is they are selling the machines built in that Chinese plant back into the USA now.
there is no such thing as "free trade", not even fair trade, not with China, and not with anyone.
Why aren't we allowed to buy perscripition (excuse my bad spelling) drugs from other countries?
Its a good question. Like I said we found a back door way to get them for my great grandmother but that loophole eventually closed.
Crazy but true story: My dad a heavy smoker used to be able to buy American cigarettes in Romania for about half the price. Yes these were American cigarettes with North Carolina tobacco that was shipped across the ocean then shipped back to the United States and then to our house and yet the cost was less going to store down the block. In my 6.5 years of college that have had so far I still can not figure this one out.
Why aren't we allowed to buy perscripition (excuse my bad spelling) drugs from other countries?
Because the gov needs to protect you from yourself, you may purchase drugs that arent approved by the FDA thus unsafe.
Only half as crazy as not being able to buy raw milk.
Oh, the same drugs from Canada aren't safe? I find that hard to believe. And, wouldn't people only buy drugs that are good, or are made by reputable companies (just like they do now?) I doubt that without the FDA we'd all overdose in a day. Furthermore, clearly all the people in Canada are overdosing from their drugs because they don't have the FDA to protect them from themselves.. right?
The private market on perscription drugs in America is basically capitalism unchecked.
When company gets a patent they essentially have a monopoly like say Standard Oil did in the late 1800s for I believe 7 years. Plus the demand is inelastic ie not price dependent as people that need the drug to live will pay a high amount for it.
I am conflicted because I feel we need to award companies for their research. I think it is interesting though how government can help fund research and then via Medicare Part D end up paying a heavy amount of deficit money for it. We do need incentive research to help our nation's population but it would be nice to do it a bit more cost effectively.
The private market on perscription drugs in America is basically capitalism unchecked.
When company gets a patent they essentially have a monopoly like say Standard Oil did in the late 1800s for I believe 7 years. Plus the demand is inelastic ie not price dependent as people that need the drug to live will pay a high amount for it.
I am conflicted because I feel we need to award companies for their research. I think it is interesting though how government can help fund research and then via Medicare Part D end up paying a heavy amount of deficit money for it. We do need incentive research to help our nation's population but it would be nice to do it a bit more cost effectively.
The private market on perscription drugs in America is basically capitalism unchecked.
When company gets a patent they essentially have a monopoly like say Standard Oil did in the late 1800s for I believe 7 years. Plus the demand is inelastic ie not price dependent as people that need the drug to live will pay a high amount for it.
I am conflicted because I feel we need to award companies for their research. I think it is interesting though how government can help fund research and then via Medicare Part D end up paying a heavy amount of deficit money for it. We do need incentive research to help our nation's population but it would be nice to do it a bit more cost effectively.
I think you are missing the point that it is the government that is allowing them use patents like that and that it is the government that is restricting the market from competing in order to save everyone costs (and get a better product too). Do you know how much cheaper perscripition drugs are in other countries? That is (virtually) solely the fault of the government.
"Capitalism unchecked," as in a bad way of saying laissez-faire? There are thousands upon thousands of pages of regulations in the prescription drug market and health care in general. Didn't the last bill look something like this :
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It has been checked ad nauseum. That's what you get when you concentrate power and let government control markets. But noooo, it's capitalism. Uh huh.
I'm going to guess that the laws aren't similar to what they were in the 1890s.
The prescription drug market is so complicated that it could not be hashed out on an internet forum, and certainly not by a bunch of guys who don't have a clue what they're talking about (all of us).
However it's important to recognize that while the pill over the counter costs $.03 to make, the first one took $900,000,000 to make.
Why don't we get our omniscient government to make some policies that reduce the price of fresh vegetables and promote exercise (i.e. walkability) so we don't need to take a dozen pills a day to keep our unhealthy asses alive so often?
Caterpillar was poised to sell BILLIONS of $$ in equipment into China about 15 yrs ago...China slapped a 40 %tax/levy/tarriff on the importation of these machines...so Caterpillar builds a plant in China to avoid this.
whats worse is they are selling the machines built in that Chinese plant back into the USA now.
there is no such thing as "free trade", not even fair trade, not with China, and not with anyone.
Looks like sequestration is going to hit the DHS, especially the Secret Service:
Homeland prepares budget cuts, up to 1,000 furloughs at Secret Service - Washington Times
Homeland prepares budget cuts, up to 1,000 furloughs at Secret Service
Bracing for the possibility of budget sequestration next month, the Homeland Security Department is making plans to furlough as many as 1,000 Secret Service agents, officers and others employees, officials say.
Homeland Security issued its first agency-wide memorandum late last week preparing for sequestration, the sweeping automatic budget cuts set to take effect as early as March 1 under a prior deal between the White House and Congress to reduce the deficit. The Feb. 6 memo advised all federal employees that the “department leadership is engaged in extensive planning efforts” determining how best to deal with the potential budget cuts.
The memo, obtained by the Washington Guardian, hints at specific areas DHS officials are looking to reduce costs, including “operational or administrative costs in areas such as travel, facilities, and supplies.”
DHS officials also warned that they may “have to consider placing employees on temporary furlough, or taking other personnel actions, should sequestration occur. With respect to furloughs, all affected employees would be provided at least 30 days’ notice prior to executing a furlough.”
The Secret Service, which beyond protecting the president also investigates major financial crimes, is among the agency targeted for extensive furloughs. A Homeland Security official, with knowledge of the impending cuts, told the Washington Guardian that the Secret Service “is looking at reducing their forces by up to a thousand people” but added that “all federal agencies are facing drastic cuts if sequestration happens.”
Secret Service Spokesman Brian Leary said he could not comment on the agency’s sequestration preparations, referring all questions to the White House’s Office of Management and Budget.
OMB did not return numerous emails and calls seeking comment. DHS spokesman Peter Boogaard declined comment on the memo or impending cuts.
The details emerge as the Obama administration and Democrats try to pressure congressional Republicans to stop the sequestration cuts before they take effect, making public plans for specific cuts in national security program that long have been dear to the GOP.
Although DHS officials have not officially released current plans to handle possible sequestration, Democrats on the House Appropriation’s Committee have.
A “Dear Colleague” letter, signed by former House Appropriation’s Committee ranking Democrat Norm Dicks, of Washington, in October, listed the Secret Service, among other agencies, which will have to make major cuts to balance their budget.
Dicks‘ letter noted the Secret Service faces a reduction of 819 personnel “a cut to below FY 2006 force levels from current on-board levels which impacts the work of Special Agents, uniformed division officers, and protective detail personnel.”
Unlike the Defense Department, which has taken the lead in disclosing its plans to make $4 billion in drastic cuts, Department of Homeland Security officials have kept relatively quiet on their internal preparations for the March 1 deadline.
The DHS official, who was not authorized to speak on the matter, added that many agencies, including the Secret Service, have not authorized work “transfers due to the looming budget crisis and the cuts will reduce protective detail personnel.”
Beyond the reduction of personnel to Secret Service, the letter states that the DHS is facing personnel losses of more than 24,000, to include:
reduction of 3,400 Border Patrol agents to below FY 2009 levels.
reduce 7,403 U.S. Coast Guard personnel –facing force levels below FY 2006.
reduce 7,240 Transportation Security Officers
reduction of 932 Immigration and Customs Enforcement “a decrease of this magnitude would significantly impact efforts to investigate crimes involving counter-proliferation, terrorism, and transnational threats.”
FEMA will see a reduction of 536 core personnel
$116.6 million cut to the Federal Air Marshals program.
Federal employees, however, are expected to report for work on March 1, regardless of sequestration. The Office of Personnel Management issued new supplemental guidelines for administrative furloughs on Jan. 11.
Even “under sequestration, agencies would still have funds available after March 1, but the overall funding for the remainder of the fiscal year would be reduced” and employees should still report to work on March 1, the OPM guidelines state.
D's are really risking it here. The worst thing for them would be the cuts happen, and, the world doesn't end. In fact, most people might not notice anything. Of course, if there is a problem, R's get the blame. It's a game of chicken.
As I mentioned earlier, I work for the DHS. The last time we had something like this, I was considered "essential". I don't know the situation this time around. Just in case, I told the wife not to spend our tax refund. Better safe than sorry.
IMO, both parties are to blame. Neither one wants to compromise, and the little guy gets hurt. I think all of them should be run out of DC .
Can we furlough Congress to save money?