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  • Obama

    Votes: 4 1.1%

  • Romney

    Votes: 172 48.9%

  • Other

    Votes: 46 13.1%

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    Votes: 130 36.9%
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FYI: Total US debt following today's $35 billion auction of 2 Year bonds is: $16,OOO,OOO,OOO,OOO.
 
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Anybody else watching this weirdness tonight? The speaker list is an unprecedented collection of people with very questionable character and very lacking personality.

The excitement is immutable!
 
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Rhode Irish said:
Anybody else watching this weirdness tonight? The speaker list is an unprecedented collection of people with very questionable character and very lacking personality.

The excitement is immutable!
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Yeah, I'm watching...and so is Obama....and he's giggling his arse off right back to the White House.
 
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I heard a couple interviews on NPR...that was plenty for me. Broke down and started watching it. Some of the GOP delegates looked confused when the black dude first hit the stage. Haha. Kind of pathetic hearing the GOP dudes reference JFK.
 
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Another FYI: I'd probably do Ann Romney
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Jesus.... The GOP needs to keep her away from the Mic. She's coming off as a complete dolt. It's like she's reading a storybook to kindergarteners, and reminds me too much of W.
 
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Ann Romney is the most offensively obnoxious person I've ever been aware of. She makes my insides dizzy.
 
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LOL

Stopped on MSNBC for 2 mins. They didn't have very high opinions on Ms. Romney's or Christie's speeches.

Went to Fox for a couple of minutes, exact opposite.
 
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tadman95 said:
LOL

Stopped on MSNBC for 2 mins. They didn't have very high opinions on Ms. Romney's or Christie's speeches.

Went to Fox for a couple of minutes, exact opposite.
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That is why I watched PBS. Although, I have to say, I went to FOX about 20 minutes ago to hear the cheerleaders, and they don't seem very excited about it.

Chris Christie is a likable guy, but I don't think there was a lot in that speech that will fire up undecideds. Also didn't do much to boost the Romney/Ryan ticket. Seemed like the first ad of the 2016 election to me.

Is Charles Krauthammer still alive?? I can't tell by watching him on TV.
 
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That is why I watched PBS. Although, I have to say, I went to FOX about 20 minutes ago to hear the cheerleaders, and they don't seem very excited about it.

Chris Christie is a likable guy, but I don't think there was a lot in that speech that will fire up undecideds. Also didn't do much to boost the Romney/Ryan ticket. Seemed like the first ad of the 2016 election to me.

Is Charles Krauthammer still alive?? I can't tell by watching him on TV.
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Yeah, that was bad, Brah..... Nothing better than self-promotion and Ann Romney sounding like she was reading a book to kindergartners... This is gonna be a walk for Obama.
 
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Care to elaborate? Sounds like liberal hate-mongering. Harness your inner- Janeane Garofalo.....
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I don't know what you want me to elaborate on. She doesn't come off as a thoughtful person capable of empathy or, for that matter, aware of reality. She comes off as someone who really, really wants to decorate the White House. Its a matter of opinion. I don't have empirical evidence to support that point.
 
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Ah ok. Not trying to call you out. It was just that the first few times I saw him on tv I thought, 'what's this guys problem? He's not doing anything and talking very monotone.' And then I found out he was paralyzed and felt like a jerk. I agree though paralysis shouldn't inhibit his emotion.
 
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Rhode Irish said:
I don't know what you want me to elaborate on. She doesn't come off as a thoughtful person capable of empathy or, for that matter, aware of reality. She comes off as someone who really, really wants to decorate the White House. Its a matter of opinion. I don't have empirical evidence to support that point.
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To be fair...you are a liberal hate-monger. Remember...? All the hate-mongering...?
 
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Rhode Irish said:
I don't know what you want me to elaborate on. She doesn't come off as a thoughtful person capable of empathy or, for that matter, aware of reality. She comes off as someone who really, really wants to decorate the White House. Its a matter of opinion. I don't have empirical evidence to support that point.
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Your broad strokes portraying a conservatively dressed upper-class woman as a soulless interior decorator is akin to me calling the current Commander-in Chief a non-American citizen with a selfish agenda towards spreading socialism. My two cents, but not entirely factual.

You seem better than that. Que sera sera.
 
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IrishAlum1997 said:
Your broad strokes portraying a conservatively dressed upper-class woman as a soulless interior decorator is akin to me calling the current Commander-in Chief a non-American citizen with a selfish agenda towards spreading socialism. My two cents, but not entirely factual.

You seem better than that. Que sera sera.
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Um...I didn't make any broad stroke. I made a critique of an individual's performance. I would never talk badly of my mother, which I would have done had I actually done what you suggested. My mother is, generally, a conservatively dressed upper-class white woman. She is also an executive of a publicly traded company, not an interior decorator. What does Ann Romney do for a living again?
 
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Rhode Irish said:
Um...I didn't make any broad stroke. I made a critique of an individual's performance. I would never talk badly of my mother, which I would have done had I actually done what you suggested. My mother is, generally, a conservatively dressed upper-class white woman. She is also an executive of a publicly traded company, not an interior decorator. What does Ann Romney do for a living again?
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Effective use of the word "um."

You didn't really critique, you said she made your insides dizzy and looked like she just wanted to "decorate the White House.". What exactly gave you that perception, could it be......UM......a generalization?

Simply doesn't come across as thoughtful debate. Be well.
 
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Anyone into wonky facts (looking at you, Paul Ryan fanboys), do yourselves a favor and read Ezra Klein every day and follow him on twitter. Best mind in the public discourse currently. Glad to have him on my side.
 
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On the bolded part think you missed the point. I was not making the point that the public sector is better at putting a touch screen on a phone for consumers. That is to say the public sector is pretty good at developing base theories and base technology (jet propulsion, space craft, gps, the internet and so on and so forth) that the market can then pick up on and apply for consumption. On that point it's great that you do not have an issue with funding the sciences, public education and the like. The GOP on the other hand does and is quite rabid about it.
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1) The private sectors does much more than put touch screens on phones for consumers. Nice back-handed compliment.

2) I walked into one of the engineering buildings for my math class today and some a board talking about some research project, and it listed the consortium of donors for it....some 40+ corporations from 5-6 countries.

I got this in email not two weeks ago: OSU Energy & Environment News

My roommate worked with Honda in class designing more efficient cars with them at their Marysville.

There is privately-funded/aided research in our schools. Let's not assume that everything going on in our schools is funded by the federal government.

3) I LOVE the Feds pumping money into research for ground-breaking things like green energy and whatnot. I'm all for it. In fact I'd like to see more of that and less of the Feds shutting down coal to steer people towards it. I don't see a whole lot from the GOP being against it, honestly. Help me out; maybe I'm looking in the wrong place? I don't think Romney is opposed to science funding..?

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As for the last piece of legislation that received bi-partisan support and was a "home run" I would again point to the case of acid rain. The States completely blew it the Fed stepped in and hammered out a solution based on science and the problem was solved. Too bad the GOP and by extension Mitt Romney have their heads up their collective back sides on the issue of climate change and the fact that carbon trading (a Republican idea by the way) could do wonders to mitigate the effects. Finally, if everyone thinks you can neatly compartmentalize the "economy" and "the environment" as separate issues you are mistaken. Hurricane Katrina and the current drought in much of the country would be a good examples of how one effects the other and vise versa.
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Wrong. Well, I don't think many people think that the EPA shouldn't exist. That is essentially inter-state commerce and thus is justified.

But Carbon Trading would mean the destruction of American manufacturing and explode unemployment. I'm willing to say honestly that anyone who believes in carbon trading is an idiot. I hate to be so rude (while sober), but Carbon Trading would just destroy this economy. WE NEED SCIENTIFIC BREAKTHROUGHS, not restrictions. It's useless to cap our gases in such a draconian manner when China doesn't play by the same rules.

As for global warming, meh. I know a lot of Republicans who don't believe in it. I know a lot of Republican who acknowledge a global warming, but do not agree that is is a fact that it is man's fault.

Mitt Romney: “I believe that climate change is occurring.… I also believe that human activity is a contributing factor. I am uncertain how much of the warming, however, is attributable to man and how much is attributable to factors out of our control.”

Sounds pretty fair to me. I've had two earth science professors say the same in lectures (you know, the ones doing the Fed-funded research). :)

Seriously...carbon trading = the worst idea ever. It's stuff like that that allows me to say with complete honesty that Barack Obama's liberal/enviro policies are in direct opposition of his union buddies and working class Americans. Imagine the hardship Americans will endure struggle to pay their heating bill. Good f*ckin' grief.

Lastly, CO2 emissions are now at a twenty-year low...and NOT because of the Feds!!! It's because of a natural gas boom in this country...the same boom the EPA and environmentalists say is causing earthquakes, poisoning water, etc etc when it's simply untrue. The MARKET is to credit for the progress, which is so ironic it's not even funny.
 
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Rhode Irish said:
Um...I didn't make any broad stroke. I made a critique of an individual's performance. I would never talk badly of my mother, which I would have done had I actually done what you suggested. My mother is, generally, a conservatively dressed upper-class white woman. She is also an executive of a publicly traded company, not an interior decorator. What does Ann Romney do for a living again?
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I'm not positive, but I'm pretty sure she's not running for the office of president of the United States of America. I'm pretty sure she's not (God forbid) even...a politician. Hopefully you'll come to terms with all this when she's the first lady though.
 
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Anyone into wonky facts (looking at you, Paul Ryan fanboys), do yourselves a favor and read Ezra Klein every day and follow him on twitter. Best mind in the public discourse currently. Glad to have him on my side.
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I just read his latest tweets...he sounds like an *******.
 
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Effective use of the word "um."

You didn't really critique, you said she made your insides dizzy and looked like she just wanted to "decorate the White House.". What exactly gave you that perception, could it be......UM......a generalization?

Simply doesn't come across as thoughtful debate. Be well.
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So when you watch these speeches and ads and debates during elections, you do not make a judgment with respect to the sincerity and presence of the speaker in addition to the substance? I understand that everyone's judgment will be somewhat influenced by their perspective, but I have a sneaking suspicion that if I came on here saying I had adjudged her to be inspirational and heartfelt, I wouldn't be getting the same pushback from you. (But I'm just being a partisan.)

Look, there are impressive and unimpressive conservatives in my view. I don't agree with the impressive ones any more than I do with the unimpressive ones.
 
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