Police State USA

[Irish#1]

Listened to comments from the defense attorney in the Arbery trial. They are grasping for anything to hang their hat on. One even made this comment,

"Turning Ahmaud Arbery into a victim after the choices that he made does not reflect the reality of what brought Ahmaud Arbery to Satilla Shores in his khaki shorts with no socks to cover his long, dirty toenails," Hogue told jurors.

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[TorontoGold]

I would guess that the majority of anti-vaxers don't belong to the Proud Boys, but your raging hard-on for anti-vaxers has been duly noted.

Just interesting to see PBs providing security for them. Any comment on that?

 

[Wild Bill]

Just interesting to see PBs providing security for them. Any comment on that?

Really kind of them to help out the pure bloods.

 

[drayer54]

Dems picked a good week to push the Breathe Act, which would empty out the prisons. Their bail reform efforts paired with activist DAs that are causing San Francisco and CA crime to spike (Even Best Buy CEO said on a media call today that they are seeing heavy shoplifting in CA and SF in particular) and led to the murder of 5 people in Wisconsin this past weekend will be amplified here. Notice the media that jumped on Kyle is ignoring this one to preserve their narrative.

[TWEET]https://twitter.com/polarisnatsec/status/1462884005800460309?s=20[/TWEET]

 

[Irish#1]

Dems picked a good week to push the Breathe Act, which would empty out the prisons. Their bail reform efforts paired with activist DAs that are causing San Francisco and CA crime to spike (Even Best Buy CEO said on a media call today that they are seeing heavy shoplifting in CA and SF in particular) and led to the murder of 5 people in Wisconsin this past weekend will be amplified here. Notice the media that jumped on Kyle is ignoring this one to preserve their narrative.

[TWEET]https://twitter.com/polarisnatsec/status/1462884005800460309?s=20[/TWEET]

She's not worried. She'll be safe and secure while the criminals do criminal things.

 

[Irish#1]

Just interesting to see PBs providing security for them. Any comment on that?

What's to comment about?

 

[drayer54]

What's to comment about?

https://www.dictionary.com/browse/red-herring

 

[TorontoGold]

What's to comment about?

One of the largest white nationalist groups parading with anti-vaxxers? I know it's not as juicy as a store robbery, seems worthy of discussion idk.

Why shouldn't it be discussed?

 

[Irish#1]

One of the largest white nationalist groups parading with anti-vaxxers? I know it's not as juicy as a store robbery, seems worthy of discussion idk.

Why shouldn't it be discussed?

Not the point of my post. You've made it clear a number of times that you think all anti-vaxers are idiots. It's been noted, documented and recorded in the annals of IE. No need to keep beating the drum.

But, let's discuss. You start.

 

[drayer54]

One of the largest white nationalist groups parading with anti-vaxxers? I know it's not as juicy as a store robbery, seems worthy of discussion idk.

Why shouldn't it be discussed?

How many people are in this group? A fringe group of radicals who aligned with people resisting a vaccine are outdoors and being vocal.

Are these people driving a change somewhere? Are they the result of some policy you don't like?

I struggle to see the threat when I've literally never seen, met, or heard one from this group. It's probably half full of feds anyway.

 

[TorontoGold]

Not the point of my post. You've made it clear a number of times that you think all anti-vaxers are idiots. It's been noted, documented and recorded in the annals of IE. No need to keep beating the drum.

But, let's discuss. You start.

What's your point then? Move on to subject, and not the person posting it.

Proud boys showed up to provide security for the anti-vax protest (in the article), and were happy with the Rittenhouse verdict so they could "stack bodies". Seems like it might be an unintended consequence of the Rittenhouse verdict, that white nationalists will use it as cover to provoke violence.

 

[drayer54]

What's your point then? Move on to subject, and not the person posting it.

Proud boys showed up to provide security for the anti-vax protest (in the article), and were happy with the Rittenhouse verdict so they could "stack bodies". Seems like it might be an unintended consequence of the Rittenhouse verdict, that white nationalists will use it as cover to provoke violence.

Like driving a car through a parade and killing 5 people?

 

[ab2cmiller]

I still don't understand how or why the leftists and their media spent all their focus on the Rittenhouse trial and basically zero on the Arbery trial. Does anyone have any theories?

 

[drayer54]

I still don't understand how or why the leftists and their media spent all their focus on the Rittenhouse trial and basically zero on the Arbery trial. Does anyone have any theories?

1- Polarizing as people are adamantly defending the right to self defense and others are discussing the narrative of a young white man dramatically crossing state lines and shooting people. Tons of misinformation created passionate followers.

2- Public interest- FreeKyleUSA has raised a butt ton of money while some donors were doxxed by journos and ultimately fired for donating to the legal defense of an innocent person.
He was called a white supremacist from media hacks all the way up to Joe Biden himself. Lots of attention.

3- The case was actually interesting as it exposed interesting conduct by the prosecutor and forced a reported victim to admit that he wasn't shot until he was approaching Rittenhouse with a gun pointed at him.

The Arbery trial however
- Not a huge pro-defense argument out there. Not a ton of public money going to their defense. Not a lot of conflicting narratives.

- The only public interest seems to be from the usual attention seekers.

-Case isn't that interesting. Odds of an acquital here appear to be quite low.

 

[drayer54]

Here's Toronto's political hero-

[TWEET]https://twitter.com/breeadail/status/1462872985518415881?s=20[/TWEET]

 

[Irish#1]

What's your point then? Move on to subject, and not the person posting it.

Proud boys showed up to provide security for the anti-vax protest (in the article), and were happy with the Rittenhouse verdict so they could "stack bodies". Seems like it might be an unintended consequence of the Rittenhouse verdict, that white nationalists will use it as cover to provoke violence.

I already stated my point. No need for me to restate it again. If you think I was attacking you I don’t know what to tell you. I only addressed your opinion on anti-Vaxer’s. I do love how you like to answer questions with a question.

 

[TorontoGold]

Here's Toronto's political hero-

[TWEET]https://twitter.com/breeadail/status/1462872985518415881?s=20[/TWEET]

What's the issue? I was waiting for him to say something bad.

 

[TorontoGold]

I already stated my point. No need for me to restate it again. If you think I was attacking you I don’t know what to tell you. I only addressed your opinion on anti-Vader’s. I do love how you like to answer questions with a question.

Ah right, the point that only a minority of anti-vaxxers are proud boys. So what does that have to do with the point of the article?

Never said attack, just said focus on the content not on the poster.

I always answer your questions. I'm allowed to post a follow up, right?

 

[drayer54]

I still don't understand how or why the leftists and their media spent all their focus on the Rittenhouse trial and basically zero on the Arbery trial. Does anyone have any theories?

[TWEET]https://twitter.com/ElectionWiz/status/1463223222737022994?s=20[/TWEET]

 

[Irish#1]

Ah right, the point that only a minority of anti-vaxxers are proud boys. So what does that have to do with the point of the article?

Never said attack, just said focus on the content not on the poster.

I always answer your questions. I'm allowed to post a follow up, right?

1. I was focused on the content, which is why I commented how I did. Not sure how you separate an opinion or statement from the poster. I've not called you any names or questioned your intelligence so I'm not sure why you said focus on the content and not the poster.

2. More than once on this board you've made comments about all anti-vaxer's being stupid, idiots or whatever term you used. Your comment about anti-vaxer's and proud boys being a perfect marriage was just another example of you wanting to point out how you feel about anti-vaxers. It may not have been your intention, but it certainly came across that way.

3. Concerning the article, did the anti-vaxer's ask the proud boys to join them? I didn't see anything in the article that mentioned they did. I don't support or agree with the Proud Boys, but they're no different than the Antifa crowd or the rioters. They're trying to intimidate just as much.

 

[Irish#1]

[TWEET]https://twitter.com/ElectionWiz/status/1463223222737022994?s=20[/TWEET]

It's supposed to be on You Tube. Going t try and watch it tonight. I heard he's waiting for Joe to apologize to him.

 

[Blazers46]

[TWEET]https://twitter.com/NationalMemo/status/1462930760525041674[/TWEET]

Anti-vaxxers and PB's, a perfect marriage.

I think these anti anti vax posts are trolling at this point. I don't care to take the vaccine and I am 100% against a mandate on the federal or even private levels. Reading the article it appears the "anti vax" protest was an anit vax mandate protest. It appears if you are anti mandate you are lumped in the anti vax group. If I were at an anti mandate protest I don't give 2 schitts who is there marching with me. PBs, BLM, The President of China, Al Queda, Lebron or whoever wants to protest with me is fine with me. I think people put way too much emphasis and concern and probably fake outrage into what a group thinks that might be similar to another group. Just came out that Amari Cooper has covid and is not vaccinated... by your post he is now aligned with the Proud Boys? Kyrie Irving and the proud boys sipping tea and hunting BLM? Andrew Wiggins, Michael Porter Jr, Bradley Beal, Cam Newton and Lamar Jackson.... now aligning with PBs?

 

[TorontoGold]

1. I was focused on the content, which is why I commented how I did. Not sure how you separate an opinion or statement from the poster. I've not called you any names or questioned your intelligence so I'm not sure why you said focus on the content and not the poster.

2. More than once on this board you've made comments about all anti-vaxer's being stupid, idiots or whatever term you used. Your comment about anti-vaxer's and proud boys being a perfect marriage was just another example of you wanting to point out how you feel about anti-vaxers. It may not have been your intention, but it certainly came across that way.

3. Concerning the article, did the anti-vaxer's ask the proud boys to join them? I didn't see anything in the article that mentioned they did. I don't support or agree with the Proud Boys, but they're no different than the Antifa crowd or the rioters. They're trying to intimidate just as much.

"raging hard-on for anti-vaxers has been duly noted" - Got it, based on the article lol

Yes, because they are. Because a white nationalist group is a bunch of absolute morons, aren't they?

No idea what anti-vaxxers did, but as many of the proud boys had signs with anti-vaxx rhetoric then one can make the assumption that they are also anti-vax. No idea what Antifa has to do with the PB's or anti-vax, if they were out destroying shit then yes that's bad. I don't see in the article anything about Antifa so I'm confused on why you mentioned them.

 

[TorontoGold]

I think these anti anti vax posts are trolling at this point. I don't care to take the vaccine and I am 100% against a mandate on the federal or even private levels. Reading the article it appears the "anti vax" protest was an anit vax mandate protest. It appears if you are anti mandate you are lumped in the anti vax group. If I were at an anti mandate protest I don't give 2 schitts who is there marching with me. PBs, BLM, The President of China, Al Queda, Lebron or whoever wants to protest with me is fine with me. I think people put way too much emphasis and concern and probably fake outrage into what a group thinks that might be similar to another group. Just came out that Amari Cooper has covid and is not vaccinated... by your post he is now aligned with the Proud Boys? Kyrie Irving and the proud boys sipping tea and hunting BLM? Andrew Wiggins, Michael Porter Jr, Bradley Beal, Cam Newton and Lamar Jackson.... now aligning with PBs?

....what? Because two groups similar beliefs a single topic does not make them "aligned".

I like golf, DJT likes golf, therefore I like DJT.

The bigger issue is that you should absolutely care about who's protesting with you, a white nationalist group or a terrorist group joining with you is not ok lmao.

 

[Irish#1]

"raging hard-on for anti-vaxers has been duly noted" - Got it, based on the article lol

Yes, because they are. Because a white nationalist group is a bunch of absolute morons, aren't they?

No idea what anti-vaxxers did, but as many of the proud boys had signs with anti-vaxx rhetoric then one can make the assumption that they are also anti-vax. No idea what Antifa has to do with the PB's or anti-vax, if they were out destroying shit then yes that's bad. I don't see in the article anything about Antifa so I'm confused on why you mentioned them.

No, not based on the article. Based on several posts you've previously made in the COVID thread.

 

[TorontoGold]

No, not based on the article. Based on several posts you've previously made in the COVID thread.

So when that is part of your response to a post with an article you can see how one would wonder if you're commenting on the user vs the content.

If I believe anti-vaxxers are morons and a white nationalist group are morons then why wouldn't it be perfect marriage? Aren't two idiotic groups getting together a perfect marriage? Unless you believe anti-vax/PB's to be people with intelligence.

 

[Blazers46]

So when that is part of your response to a post with an article you can see how one would wonder if you're commenting on the user vs the content.

If I believe anti-vaxxers are morons and a white nationalist group are morons then why wouldn't it be perfect marriage? Aren't two idiotic groups getting together a perfect marriage? Unless you believe anti-vax/PB's to be people with intelligence.

Because if I like golf and Donald Trump likes golf does not mean we make a perfect marriage....

 

[Blazers46]

....what? Because two groups similar beliefs a single topic does not make them "aligned".

I like golf, DJT likes golf, therefore I like DJT.

The bigger issue is that you should absolutely care about who's protesting with you, a white nationalist group or a terrorist group joining with you is not ok lmao.

BLM protests have caused more than $2billion in damage. If walking in the same protest connects you then its time to start labeling BLM as a domestic terror group. Amazing how we can play connect the dots for conservative/right protests but refuse to for the left. I did not read how much damage those racist idiotic right wing anti vax protests caused....

 

[TorontoGold]

Because if I like golf and Donald Trump likes golf does not mean we make a perfect marriage....

Exactly, I forgot the italics...didn't think they were needed.

 

[TorontoGold]

BLM protests have caused more than $2billion in damage. If walking in the same protest connects you then its time to start labeling BLM as a domestic terror group. Amazing how we can play connect the dots for conservative/right protests but refuse to for the left. I did not read how much damage those racist idiotic right wing anti vax protests caused....

Providing "security" and carrying the anti-vax signs connect you, similarly how Antifa and BLM are often connected because Antifa will go wild and do destructive shit.