Oscar-worthy performances that got snubbed

UmphreakDomer

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God he was so good in that movie. One of those performances where the actor totally captures your attention every moment he is on screen.

I think the problem was that it was a borderline supporting role, and he was nominated for Best Actor. He definitely should have been nominated and won for Best Supporting Actor.

same for morgan freeman in shawshank really. could have been supporting--probably wouldve lost there too. martin landau won for ed wood against:
samual l jackson in pulp fiction
gary sinese in forest gump
chazz palmintari in bullets over broadway
paul scofield in quiz show.
 

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agree with almost all of these previous posts, except for tom hanks as gump being the single greatest performance ever. its pretty steller. i would say his performance in cast away was better and he was robbed by russel crowe. i hate gladiator. i think its one of the biggest pieces of trash, next to avatar. and maybe titanic.
LAX--1995 was ridiculous for good films. part of that was an influx of the gen x indie guys getting studio pictures. but, also, screenwriting was just really solid through the 90's. because of that indie movement that happened.

I said it MIGHT be the best I"VE seen. When your talking art, nobody can declare a "best ever" because art is personal and subjective.

I liked Shawshank a lot, along with a host of other prison/prisoner movies. Gump seemed more original to me and Hanks brought him to life.
 

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I can't believe Robert Downey, Jr. doesn't have one. I think he is one of the great american actors and certainly could have won one for Sherlock Holmes if not Charlie Chaplin role.

On some other notes:
1.) Saving Private Ryan should have won best picture over Shakespeare in Love...criminal.
2.) Even though he wasn't snubbed by oscar Christian Bale's role in the fighter was in-credible.
3.) Denzel Washington is another great american actor whose performances can carry a movie.
 

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I can't believe Robert Downey, Jr. doesn't have one. I think he is one of the great american actors and certainly could have won one for Sherlock Holmes if not Charlie Chaplin role.

On some other notes:
1.) Saving Private Ryan should have won best picture over Shakespeare in Love...criminal.
2.) Even though he wasn't snubbed by oscar Christian Bale's role in the fighter was in-credible.
3.) Denzel Washington is another great american actor whose performances can carry a movie.

Robert Downey Jr. will get a few I think. His drug years hurt him a bit.
 

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God he was so good in that movie. One of those performances where the actor totally captures your attention every moment he is on screen.

I think the problem was that it was a borderline supporting role, and he was nominated for Best Actor. He definitely should have been nominated and won for Best Supporting Actor.

If anything the problem goes the other way. Best Actor/Actress used to take into account all leading roles, not just top billed. So even people 3rd, 4th, & 5th billed could contend for Best Actor (e.g. Maximillan Schell in "Judgement at Nuremberg").

Plenty of supporting winners over the years really should have been up for Best Actor because they were actually leads. Like Kevin Spacey in "Usual Suspects." Who was he supporting? Gabriel Byrne? Spacey had as much if not more screen time then anyone else in the movie.
 
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Robert Downey Jr. will get a few I think. His drug years hurt him a bit.

a few? thats extremely difficult. he has definelty reinvented himself. and i enjoy him more now. but, some would/could argue that his best years were during his drug years.
 

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Just some of my favorites:

Actor:
There Will Be Blood (Daniel Day Lewis)
Taxi Driver (Robert De Niro)
Dog Day Afternoon (Pacino)

Actress:
Fargo (Frances McDormand)
The Lion in Winter (Katharine Hepburn)
Casablanca (Ingrid Bergman)

Screenplay:
Groundhog Day
American Beauty
Goodfellas
The Big Lebowski

Director:
Alien (Ridley Scott)
Psycho (Alfred Hitchcock)
Pulp Fiction (Tarantino)
2001 (Stanley "no will ever come close to being as batshit crazy awesome as me" Kubrick)

Overall Best Movies (Not including ones mentioned above)
Kill Bill Saga
Eyes Wide Shut
Godfather Part II
Empire Strikes Back
Citizen Kane
Lawrence of Arabia
Jaws
The Producers
The African Queen
 

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I would love to know how Christoph Waltz didn't garner anything for his performance as Col. Hanz Landa in Inglorious Basterds. One of the most twisted and brilliant roles I have ever seen, and btw, Tarantino is a god.
 

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2001 (Stanley "no will ever come close to being as batshit crazy awesome as me" Kubrick)

When I was young I liked staying up and watching late night movies. One night A Clockwork Orange was on so I started watching it, it was so weird I changed the channel to something else, but I kept thinking about it and turned it back, After doing this about ten times I had watched the whole movie. I felt like I had seen something I wasn't suppose to see. I felt like watching it could cause someoe to go insane. Kubrick was batshit crazy and freaked me the f#ck out. Jacka$$.
 

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2001 (Stanley "no will ever come close to being as batshit crazy awesome as me" Kubrick...


Love that^^^ I always seem to be alone here but for raw emoitn, story telling and the beauty of the film itself (visual) I thought "Eyes Wide Shut" was flat off the charts... but again, I seem to find myself alone on that one, one of my all time top 25'ers for sure...
 

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Ultimate career snub goes to Alfred Hitchcock. He never won an Oscar, not even taking one home when one of his lesser films (Rebecca) pulled down Best Picture.

Cary Grant runs a close second. Nominated but never won a golden statue his whole life
 
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Haven't seen this one mentioned...

"Jerry Sandusky: A Defensive Struggle"
 

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I've got a twofer snub, Best Actor in 1990; both Ray Liotta in "Goodfellas" and Nick Nolte in "Q&A." Both roles were of men who were selfish, criminally inclined bastards that, in lesser actors hands, could have just been one-note villains. But Liotta and Nolte knocked the ball out of the park with their respective roles.

1990 was an interesting year deep with cinematic quality (you could even argue for Robin Williams in "Awakenings" and John Cusack in "The Grifters" for Best Actor). But feel good schmaltz ruled the day with "Ghost" and "Dances With Wolves" crowding out the better stuff.

Fun fact, 3 of the Best Supporting Actor nominations went to actors playing mobsters: Andy Garcia for "Godfather 3" Al Pacino for "Dick Tracy" and Joe Pesci for "Goodfellas" (the winner).
 

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You could say it was underaged.

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I preferred "Forrest Hump" to "Forrest Gump." "Shaving Ryan's Private" was pretty good too.
 

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Al Pacino in "Donnie Brasco." Everyone had been scoffing at Pacino's bellowing performances of late and then he comes up with this understated gem. He's part Goodfella and part Willy Loman.

1997 was one of the low points of the Oscars, when good movies like "L.A. Confidential" and "Donnie Brasco" got steamrolled by the twin titans of cinematic crap; "Titanic" and "Good Will Hunting."

Whoa whoa whoa. Good Will Hunting was a phenomenal movie that should have won even more awards. Love that movie - still quote it a ton to this day.

Agreed with everyone on Shawshank. When that's on TV there's no way I can change the channel, even though I've seen it probably 20 times already. It's one of those movies.

Also, someone deserves an award for making Point Break and Speed and Roadhouse into phenomenally awesome 'bad' movies that I can't ever turn away from...
 

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Whoa whoa whoa. Good Will Hunting was a phenomenal movie that should have won even more awards. Love that movie - still quote it a ton to this day.

Agreed with everyone on Shawshank. When that's on TV there's no way I can change the channel, even though I've seen it probably 20 times already. It's one of those movies.

Also, someone deserves an award for making Point Break and Speed and Roadhouse into phenomenally awesome 'bad' movies that I can't ever turn away from...

I don't want to start a flame war but "Good Will Hunting" was a hackneyed and thematically unoriginal clunker. Don't get me wrong, there were some decent parts, some funny dialogue (the "Apples" scene) and I didn't even really have a problem with Robin Williams taking down Best Supporting Actor. But "phenomenal?" No way. It was trite, paint-by-the-numbers filmmaking that rose above its mediocrity based on the acting talents of the stars. It was easily outclassed by so many other movies that year. It just won the Hollywood popularity contest along with "Titanic."

At least we're on the same page with Speed, Point Break, and Roadhouse, even though I wouldn't call Speed "bad" in any respect, because it was so well executed. I put it up there with other action classics like the Die Hard and Lethal Weapon. I know it has Keanu in it, but you can't have everything in life.
 

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I don't want to start a flame war but "Good Will Hunting" was a hackneyed and thematically unoriginal clunker. Don't get me wrong, there were some decent parts, some funny dialogue (the "Apples" scene) and I didn't even really have a problem with Robin Williams taking down Best Supporting Actor. But "phenomenal?" No way. It was trite, paint-by-the-numbers filmmaking that rose above its mediocrity based on the acting talents of the stars. It was easily outclassed by so many other movies that year. It just won the Hollywood popularity contest along with "Titanic."

At least we're on the same page with Speed, Point Break, and Roadhouse, even though I wouldn't call Speed "bad" in any respect, because it was so well executed. I put it up there with other action classics like the Die Hard and Lethal Weapon. I know it has Keanu in it, but you can't have everything in life.

Really? Repeat after me BI...It's not your fault. It's not your fault.
 

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I don't think art needs to be debated. It's different for everyone. I think we should let people post their opinions, maybe it will offer us another point of view on something we saw differently. JMHO.

I love the classics, but I like some crapppy movies too. I've lost an hour or so on a Sunday due to something like Karate Kid more than once.
 

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I don't think art needs to be debated. It's different for everyone. I think we should let people post their opinions, maybe it will offer us another point of view on something we saw differently. JMHO.

I love the classics, but I like some crapppy movies too. I've lost an hour or so on a Sunday due to something like Karate Kid more than once.

bob--this is the 2nd time you have mentioned that art shouldnt be debated. but, opinions should be given. if two have differing opinions, it opens the dialog as to the actual differences witnessed. how can you not have a debate? not from a stand point of right and wrong but from the differing points of view.

we all take something and give something to art, whatever the medium. we take from it our experience of being emotionally (or not at all) connected or disconnected, in whatever form of response to and because of. we give to the art because of ALL of our past experiences that are completely and utterly unique to us the viewer, listener, feeler, taster, and even smeller.

the only think that can be said about art, in all its forms, is that the artist him/herself, have a responsibility to not share THEIR opinions about the truths of the piece as that does exclude all others that have a differing opinion (read as experience) to said piece. the audience of the medium become part owners, if only for a brief moment, forever.

art is completely debatable because of its subjectivity. the goal of any art is to garner emotional response, whatever that may be; laughter, sadness, horror, fright, tears of sadness and joy. it makes the "why" important to you the owner of that response important. the subjectivity comes from the hows whens and because's. and that can be and should be debated.

i can debate a handful of things about how handful of reasons how "dude, wheres my car" is a better viewing experience than "shawshank redemption". but, the whys (that most everyone would share--including myself) would outweigh every single argument. the why is not debatable. that is in itself the art--and its continually changing based upon your life and how it changes and what you experience from viewing (or whatever mode of engaging the art) to viewing.
 

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I don't want to start a flame war but "Good Will Hunting" was a hackneyed and thematically unoriginal clunker. Don't get me wrong, there were some decent parts, some funny dialogue (the "Apples" scene) and I didn't even really have a problem with Robin Williams taking down Best Supporting Actor. But "phenomenal?" No way. It was trite, paint-by-the-numbers filmmaking that rose above its mediocrity based on the acting talents of the stars. It was easily outclassed by so many other movies that year. It just won the Hollywood popularity contest along with "Titanic."

At least we're on the same page with Speed, Point Break, and Roadhouse, even though I wouldn't call Speed "bad" in any respect, because it was so well executed. I put it up there with other action classics like the Die Hard and Lethal Weapon. I know it has Keanu in it, but you can't have everything in life.

Couldn't disagree with you more. It was far from unoriginal, the screenplay was fantastic, and the acting was phenomenal. I won't even go on b/c we'll never agree. It should've gotten more awards IMO.

Keanu Reeves acting is what makes Speed a 'bad' movie, but it is a phenomenally bad movie nonetheless (I mean, I can never stop watching it and still quote the movie today, but seriously, can a film get any more unrealistic LOL???)
 

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Couldn't disagree with you more. It was far from unoriginal, the screenplay was fantastic, and the acting was phenomenal. I won't even go on b/c we'll never agree. It should've gotten more awards IMO.

Keanu Reeves acting is what makes Speed a 'bad' movie, but it is a phenomenally bad movie nonetheless (I mean, I can never stop watching it and still quote the movie today, but seriously, can a film get any more unrealistic LOL???)

speed 2: cruise control??????
come on...theres and oxymoron in the title!

and i agree 100% on "good will hunting".
 

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Sorry to beat a dead horse, but Good Will Hunting has to go down as one of most overrated films of the 90s. I am not saying it was terrible, but it was far from great and easily outclassed by so many other films that year.

And if Speed is bad because it is unrealistic, then so is every other action movie ever made.
 
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