One Stop Rumors Thread?

[Irish#1]

With NIL's looking like the wild west and a billionaire willing to step up to the plate, Miami could be back is 2-3 years. Faculty may not be happy, but I doubt it influences the FB program much if any at all. ND faculty were voicing their displeasure a few years ago when BK was able to get some salaries bumped. The train kept on rolling'.

 

[GrangerIrish24]

What I want to know is what Loy is eluding to when he mentioned that there are reasons for Tommy to go that Loy wont openly touch on.

 

[hungryhippo]

^ This is also what I'd like to know. Anyone with insight here?

 

[ThePiombino]

I assume it's the same thing Zaire was alluding to.

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[irishff1014]

With NIL's looking like the wild west and a billionaire willing to step up to the plate, Miami could be back is 2-3 years. Faculty may not be happy, but I doubt it influences the FB program much if any at all. ND faculty were voicing their displeasure a few years ago when BK was able to get some salaries bumped. The train kept on rolling'.

You are right. Coaching isn't going to matter. They are not going to that school to win they are going for the money. Bama isn't going to sit back and watch Texas A&M. OU, Texas, USC, LSU, Florida, Ole Miss, Tennessee, Georgia, Ohio State, Penn State, Michigan theses schools are not going to sit back and watch. They all have donors some much richer than others. I have a hard time see ND fitting in with any of them.

 

[Free Manera]

What I want to know is what Loy is eluding to when he mentioned that there are reasons for Tommy to go that Loy wont openly touch on.

I think Rees and Loy wouldn't want to spout off on topics that Rees is talking out of the other side of his mouth to recruits about.

Such as: the weather, the night life, the food, the uncertainty around ND with a first time head coach, NIL, the proximity to elite offensive recruits, etc.

 

[notredomer23]

I think Rees and Loy wouldn't want to spout off on topics that Rees is talking out of the other side of his mouth to recruits about.

Such as: the weather, the night life, the food, the uncertainty around ND with a first time head coach, NIL, the proximity to elite offensive recruits, etc.

This is a great point. Since Feve shut down Miami and LA nightlife has really taken over South Bend

 

[IrishLax]

This is a great point. Since Feve shut down Miami and LA nightlife has really taken over South Bend

They shut down Feve!?!? Where does everyone go now, just Finnies?

 

[IrishLax]

What I want to know is what Loy is eluding to when he mentioned that there are reasons for Tommy to go that Loy wont openly touch on.

I know Rees was a bit miffed about the TE coach hire, sounds like Freeman didn't really consult him on it.

But the main drive on him going to Miami was going to be the $2+ mil in compensation that was mentioned earlier. He'd have been making more than most G5 HCs in Miami in his 30s. Honestly, pretty telling that he turned it down.

 

[stlnd01]

I know Rees was a bit miffed about the TE coach hire, sounds like Freeman didn't really consult him on it.

But the main drive on him going to Miami was going to be the $2+ mil in compensation that was mentioned earlier. He'd have been making more than most G5 HCs in Miami in his 30s. Honestly, pretty telling that he turned it down.

We hired a sitting P5 OC to coach tight ends but "didn't really consult" the current OC? I can see how that might be miffing.

 

[GrangerIrish24]

They shut down Feve!?!? Where does everyone go now, just Finnies?

The Backer is still going strong

 

[Pops Freshenmeyer]

The Backer is still going strong

What about the deux trois?

 

[GrangerIrish24]

What about the deux trois?

Coming up on the 10 year anniversary of its closing. RIP

 

[spoonidentity]

I know Rees was a bit miffed about the TE coach hire, sounds like Freeman didn't really consult him on it.

But the main drive on him going to Miami was going to be the $2+ mil in compensation that was mentioned earlier. He'd have been making more than most G5 HCs in Miami in his 30s. Honestly, pretty telling that he turned it down.

Is the Rees - TE coach stuff legit? The only other mention of that was from the Zaire podcast referenced in post #736. I haven't seen it reported elsewhere yet. You're in the know on a lot of things - does that actually have legs?

I think it's logical for anyone to explore opportunities that involve pay raises and the desire to live where they would enjoy. But if there's already discontent brewing between the HC and OC... Not good for program stability and that worries me.

 

[Dale]

I said from the beginning the Parker hire was weird. Not interviewing anyone else if Rees was not in the blown away camp like MF was is straight odd. I’m not giving credence to rumors of him throwing a tantrum basically as a result still but it would not surprise me if he didn’t exactly like the way that was handled.

 

[Pops Freshenmeyer]

Coming up on the 10 year anniversary of its closing. RIP

Damn. I am getting old.

 

[IrishLax]

Is the Rees - TE coach stuff legit? The only other mention of that was from the Zaire podcast referenced in post #736. I haven't seen it reported elsewhere yet. You're in the know on a lot of things - does that actually have legs?

I think it's logical for anyone to explore opportunities that involve pay raises and the desire to live where they would enjoy. But if there's already discontent brewing between the HC and OC... Not good for program stability and that worries me.

It's legit from what I heard. I don't think there is some unsalvageable rift, but Tommy was promised "autonomy" and if he didn't sign off on a hire that would rankle my feathers if I was in his shoes.

I worry sometimes that this situation is going to end up like the "co-manager" situation from The Office. Either you actually give Rees full autonomy over what he wants to do on that side of the ball -- at which point, you are only half a head coach -- or you're only giving him game planning/game day autonomy at which point there will be some inevitable friction at some point on some program matters. That includes staffing.

 

[Irish in Ohio]

It's legit from what I heard. I don't think there is some unsalvageable rift, but Tommy was promised "autonomy" and if he didn't sign off on a hire that would rankle my feathers if I was in his shoes.

I worry sometimes that this situation is going to end up like the "co-manager" situation from The Office. Either you actually give Rees full autonomy over what he wants to do on that side of the ball -- at which point, you are only half a head coach -- or you're only giving him game planning/game day autonomy at which point there will be some inevitable friction at some point on some program matters. That includes staffing.

So question would be to your sources was Tommy reached out to by these other places before this hire and did MF know of that ? Could be MF just covering his ass this late in the hiring game, can't blame him for that if you ask me.

 

[stlnd01]

So question would be to your sources was Tommy reached out to by these other places before this hire and did MF know of that ? Could be MF just covering his ass this late in the hiring game, can't blame him for that if you ask me.

"If you're looking around, we're looking around," but for assistant coaches. Awesome.

 

[Irish in Ohio]

"If you're looking around, we're looking around," but for assistant coaches. Awesome.

Why not ? We've also seen reports how McVay from the Rams likes Tommy. Why would you sit on you ass and not look ahead ?

 

[stlnd01]

Why not ? We've also seen reports how McVay from the Rams likes Tommy. Why would you sit on you ass and not look ahead ?

Of course you have a list of guys you call if Rees leaves. But actually hiring one of them pre-emptively and putting him on staff just in case seems potentially dicey.

 

[IrishLax]

So question would be to your sources was Tommy reached out to by these other places before this hire and did MF know of that ? Could be MF just covering his ass this late in the hiring game, can't blame him for that if you ask me.

Yes, Tommy was reached out to with basically the best OC offer in the history of college football. He ultimately turned it down. I do not know the exact order or operations, but I do believe this was a "CYA" move from Freeman -- either because of the Miami offer or another. I don't think it was/is a big deal, but all coaching carousel stuff is uncomfortable and Freeman is navigating it for the first time as a HC.

 

[NDRock]

I said before but Freeman should not give his coordinators carte blanche. Dude is hoping to be here long after Rees leaves. Let Rees take care of the offensive side of the ball but the hiring of assistants should have Freeman's approval. Does sound like he didn't even consult Rees which is probably a step too far.

This season is setting up to be exciting. I could see us anywhere from legit playoff contenders to a total shitshow.

 

[Free Manera]

The Parker hire is weird on so many levels. First of all it was fast, which is flat out foreign to ND fans. Second it doesn't fit with the other hires, i.e. rising stars like Stuckey or established top coaches like Mason, Washington, and McCullough.

The WVU boards were basically Don Draper - no hate, no love, just "we don't think about him at all" kind of reaction.

 

[Dale]

I think Freeman should definitely have final say on offensive hires but also I think Rees would have thought that meant, with heavy input from him. My problem is really with no one else interviewing, how does MF know Parker is the best candidate? Why not interview others, guys Rees may have identified and maybe y’all will end up with the same conclusion? Again, just odd event overall.

 

[Irish#1]

Yes, Tommy was reached out to with basically the best OC offer in the history of college football. He ultimately turned it down. I do not know the exact order or operations, but I do believe this was a "CYA" move from Freeman -- either because of the Miami offer or another. I don't think it was/is a big deal, but all coaching carousel stuff is uncomfortable and Freeman is navigating it for the first time as a HC.

Could have been a CYA. I agree with your earlier statement that this isn't a big riff. Probably more like growing pains and the two getting to know each other on another level now that MF is HC.

 

[ColinKSU]

It remains very weird to me how much Rees has already been given or offered for someone who isn’t even 30 and hasn’t proven anything in his coaching career to warrant being give or offered more than any OC in the history of college football.

 

[GoldenAura]

It remains very weird to me how much Rees has already been given or offered for someone who isn’t even 30 and hasn’t proven anything in his coaching career to warrant being give or offered more than any OC in the history of college football.

Perhaps people actually in the profession know more than us? Not that weird to me.

 

[Veritate Duce Progredi]

It remains very weird to me how much Rees has already been given or offered for someone who isn’t even 30 and hasn’t proven anything in his coaching career to warrant being give or offered more than any OC in the history of college football.

Weird, almost like people know what they are looking at and you're still a dude saying he "hasn't proven anything"

 

[TP81989]

It remains very weird to me how much Rees has already been given or offered for someone who isn’t even 30 and hasn’t proven anything in his coaching career to warrant being give or offered more than any OC in the history of college football.

His father's history as a longtime college coach/exec in the NFL and being well connected has definitely helped.

So many of these coaching hires are about relationships and who you know.