Offensive Line Thread

[Crazy Balki]

For all the crap I gave Correll and Lugg (and RIGHTFULLY so) they really put it together in the 2nd half.

As of now, Fisher is growing into the weak link. Dude seriously needs to get his ass in gear. Way too much talent to playing as poorly as he has.

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

The big deal this practice week is lighting up Fisher's butt
(unless it's minor injury or excess weight, which is not fixable in a week.)

Lighting up his butt sounds season ending.

 

[ThePiombino]

Lighting up his butt sounds season ending.

No, that would be LIGHTNING up his butt. No coming back from that.

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[Jiggafini19Deux]

No, that would be LIGHTNING up his butt. No coming back from that.

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It would likely put a "chip on his shoulder." Nothing can stop that.

Other than talent and execution, but you know, I hear it works.

 

[Riddickulous]

Drew Pyne had approximately 40 years to throw on some of those passes. Things are trending in a very positive direction here.

 

[Jimmy3Putt]

Line is coming together.

Man I wish we beat Marshall!

 

[MacIrish75]

 

[T-Boone]

Yep. But it begs the question why it always takes a month for the oline to start the season. Like do something different in the pre season so they are at least 90% by game one rather than at 10%.

 

[ulukinatme]

Yep. But it begs the question why it always takes a month for the oline to start the season. Like do something different in the pre season so they are at least 90% by game one rather than at 10%.

It took Quinn 6 games. It took Harry about 6 quarters. Progress!

 

[Old Man Mike]

The OLine is a Five-Fingered Hand. Patterson wasn't healthy to allow that fine-tuning together.

.... how do people forget that ....

 

[Irish#1]

Harry working his magic.

 

[CoachB]

I have coached o line for a number of years. You have to find the best five first and then they need to get the live reps to start gelling together. They need to function as one. Injuries always slow the rate of growth. Can't learn to work together until everyone is there to work together. I had that problem this year. Our o line was brutal the first three weeks. Once everyone got healthy, the first game wasn't great, but now we have ran for over 300 in back to back weeks. The o line is a unique animal. Obviously Harry is doing a great job!

 

[FightingIrishLover7]

When do we fire Harry again?

 

[MacIrish75]

I have coached o line for a number of years. You have to find the best five first and then they need to get the live reps to start gelling together. They need to function as one. Injuries always slow the rate of growth. Can't learn to work together until everyone is there to work together. I had that problem this year. Our o line was brutal the first three weeks. Once everyone got healthy, the first game wasn't great, but now we have ran for over 300 in back to back weeks. The o line is a unique animal. Obviously Harry is doing a great job!

I’m still not convinced they’ve done this—but I can’t argue with the results.

 

[GrangerIrish24]

When do we fire Harry again?

my guess would be during/after clemson game

 

[Irish#1]

Wasn't there only one penalty on the line against BYU?

 

[T-Boone]

Taking a few weeks to get firing is one thing but why the last two seasons is the early season standard SOOO far below the eventual standard?

 

[Old Man Mike]

Good Lord.
Have you listened to guys like CoachB explain this?
Have you forgotten the cataclysm of Left Tackle injuries last year?
Damm man.

 

[GoldenToTheGrave]

We're getting the Heistand Oline we all remember. QB has time to do his taxes in the pocket, but 3rd and 1 is neigh impossible.

 

[Pops Freshenmeyer]

We're getting the Heistand Oline we all remember. QB has time to do his taxes in the pocket, but 3rd and 1 is neigh impossible.

On that 4th down stop, I thought the line had it blocked and BYU's second and third level filled the gap because the play was too slow developing.

The replay shot from above is around 9:00 in:

 

[stlnd01]

On that 4th down stop, I thought the line had it blocked and BYU's second and third level filled the gap because the play was too slow developing.

The replay shot from above is around 9:00 in:

There was a hole. Estime didn't hit it fast enough. Perhaps because he started six yards deep. But also there was no lead blocker to help with the second level guys. It was basically one on four.
I guess Salerno was supposed to be a receiving option but if you send him (or a bigger TE) into the hole there ahead of Estime maybe things are different. Or just pass it to Salerno. He was wide open and would have walked right in.

 

[Dale]

That’s supposed to be pulled and thrown to Salerno. It’s as walk in a TD as the one BYU had. It’s the exact same concept, making a DB sprint across formation, and he’s gotta do so through traffic in this case. Bracy’s played on the quick stop, start nature of the motion.

 

[stlnd01]

That’s supposed to be pulled and thrown to Salerno. It’s as walk in a TD as the one BYU had. It’s the exact same concept making a DB sprint across formation, and he’s gotta do so through traffic at that.

Yep. Watching the replay that's the obvious move. What gets me is we called a timeout right before, to set that play up. I kind of get just ramming Estime on repeat in the heat of the moment. But Pyne had a beat to think about that one.

 

[Domina Nostra]

I think it would have been a first down, but that CB was patiently waiting for Salerno. I don't think it's a walk-in.

 

[Dale]

Salerno dips like he may turn in to block right as Pyne and Estime mesh, it’s a nice little nuisance to it that makes the CB slow for a second.

 

[ndfanatic78]

There was a hole. Estime didn't hit it fast enough. Perhaps because he started six yards deep. But also there was no lead blocker to help with the second level guys. It was basically one on four.
I guess Salerno was supposed to be a receiving option but if you send him (or a bigger TE) into the hole there ahead of Estime maybe things are different. Or just pass it to Salerno. He was wide open and would have walked right in.

Yeah, that was the read Pyne was supposed to make. He just missed the read.

 

[Irish#1]

There was a hole. Estime didn't hit it fast enough. Perhaps because he started six yards deep. But also there was no lead blocker to help with the second level guys. It was basically one on four.
I guess Salerno was supposed to be a receiving option but if you send him (or a bigger TE) into the hole there ahead of Estime maybe things are different. Or just pass it to Salerno. He was wide open and would have walked right in.

Slow developing is correct. You don't run from the pistol for that type of play. Go under center and let your RB have a head of steam.

 

[ulukinatme]

 

[T-Boone]

What is this about we are just over half way though the season?

 

[Spurt Reynolds]

The fact we hired Harry Hiestand back in the day and he failed.....then we hired him back only to fail even harder!

This was one of their idiotic moves the football program has made in many years.

What's the definition of insanity? Notre Dame football!! 🤣🤣🤣