Nuclear Deal Reached With Iran

[BGIF]

Obama: Iran nuclear deal limits ability to create nuclear weapons - CNN.com

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Catherine Ashton, the EU's foreign policy chief, formally announced the agreement in Geneva where the foreign ministers representing Iran, the United States, Britain, China, Russia, France and Germany were meeting.

According to a statement released by the White House, the deal halts Tehran's nuclear program, including halting the development at the Arak reactor and requiring all of the uranium enriched to 20% -- close to weapons-grade -- to be diluted so it cannot be converted for military purposes.

But there were conflicting reports about whether Iran's right to enrich uranium had been recognized.

The senior administration official said the deal does not recognize the right, while Iranian Deputy Foreign Minister Seyed Abbas Araghchi -- on a Twitter feed commonly attributed to him by Iranian media -- said that "our enrichment program was recognized."

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[Ultimate Penn St. Hater]

Good work by the administration and our allies.

 

[kmoose]

Obama promised them,

"If you like your Nuclear Plan, you will be able to keep your Nuclear Plan. Period!!"

 

[woolybug25]

This is a win for the world, any way you look at it.

 

[magogian]

He deals straight with our enemies and lies to our citizenry and allies.

 

[woolybug25]

I'm pissed that it interrupted my Lady Gaga performance on SNL though. Lol

 

[magogian]

On a more serious note, its all about the details. For example, it seems unclear if UN inspectors will actually have access to all the nuclear sites. Without that, any deal is largely worthless because compliance cannot be confirmed.

As another example, it is also critical that Iran is prevented from having a short timeline to a nuclear breakout. So, the number and type of centrifuges they are permitted to have is critical. None of the details that I've seen say that centrifuges will be severely limited. Just that current stocks of the more highly enriched uranium will be diluted. That means squat if Iran retains (and likely increases) their ability to relatively quickly enrich uranium to nuclear weapon levels.

 

[palinurus]

Obama: Iran nuclear deal limits ability to create nuclear weapons - CNN.com

'But there were conflicting reports about whether Iran's right to enrich uranium had been recognized.

"The senior administration official said the deal does not recognize the right, while Iranian Deputy Foreign Minister Seyed Abbas Araghchi -- on a Twitter feed commonly attributed to him by Iranian media -- said that "our enrichment program was recognized.""


How is there a "deal" if this hasn't been resolved to a mutual understanding?

 

[magogian]

This is a win for the world, any way you look at it.

Yes, "peace in our time."

 

[Booslum31]

I'm pissed that it interrupted my Lady Gaga performance on SNL though. Lol

OMG...I'm right with you. I was already holding my breath for the wardrobe malfunction and then had to hold my breath when the news broke in. Obama isn't my guy but I'm very happy that he was able to get Iran to come to the table. I still don't trust Iran...but this helps a good bit.

 

[arndtjc]

The Obama Administration is terrible with foreign policy

 

[palinurus]

I don't follow. Isn't there still a problem if the Iranians think they can enrich uranium and everyone else thinks they can't? I mean, I hope there is a deal, because Iran is a bad actor, imo, but isn't the enrichment issue tantamount to the nuclear weapons issue? Maybe someone more versed in this can explain it to me.

 

[magogian]

I don't follow. Isn't there still a problem if the Iranians think they can enrich uranium and everyone else thinks they can't? I mean, I hope there is a deal, because Iran is a bad actor, imo, but isn't the enrichment issue tantamount to the nuclear issue? Maybe someone more versed in this can explain it to me.

The board has spoken. Obama is a foreign policy god. Don't let pesky concerns distract you from that.

 

[Ultimate Penn St. Hater]

The board has spoken. Obama is a foreign policy god. Don't let pesky concerns distract you from that.

I don't recall anyone saying that.

 

[irishff1014]

I think this is a step in the right direction how ever i do believe that they will still hide some in a place we don't know about.

 

[palinurus]

Near as I can tell, the answer is that Iran agrees not to make nuclear weapons, but there is still uncertainty about whether they can enrich uranium. Iran says they can, and they'll use the uranium for things like power plants; not sure whether that is acceptable to the US and some of its allies or not. I assume not, because the original post says they the US said Iran agreed not to enrich uranium.

At any rate, it appears it is not acceptable to one of the US's allies:

"Israel says the deal being offered would give Iran more time to master nuclear technology and amass potential bomb fuel. Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu told local media in Moscow that Iran was essentially given an "unbelievable Christmas present - the capacity to maintain this (nuclear) breakout capability for practically no concessions at all."

Iran, six world powers clinch breakthrough nuclear deal

Not to be the skunk at the picnic. I was the first to praise this Administration when it took out Bin Laden and I hope it can preside over the neutralization of Iran. But I am not sure what really happened here.

 

[phork]

The only way to be sure is to rehire Bush and go to war. Intelligence suggests there are WMDs there.

 

[palinurus]

we'll know for sure if they drop one on somebody, too.

 

[BobD]

Oh good because Iran would never go back on their word.

 

[BGIF]

Near as I can tell, the answer is that Iran agrees not to make nuclear weapons, but there is still uncertainty about whether they can enrich uranium. Iran says they can, and they'll use the uranium for things like power plants; not sure whether that is acceptable to the US and some of its allies or not. I assume not, because the original post says they the US said Iran agreed not to enrich uranium.

At any rate, it appears it is not acceptable to one of the US's allies:

"Israel says the deal being offered would give Iran more time to master nuclear technology and amass potential bomb fuel. Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu told local media in Moscow that Iran was essentially given an "unbelievable Christmas present - the capacity to maintain this (nuclear) breakout capability for practically no concessions at all."

Iran, six world powers clinch breakthrough nuclear deal

Not to be the skunk at the picnic. I was the first to praise this Administration when it took out Bin Laden and I hope it can preside over the neutralization of Iran. But I am not sure what really happened here.

You're not the skunk at the picnic, the devil is usually in the details. Compliance and the difference in the meaning of a significant point is still to be resolved.

But it's a step and it doesn't seem The Six gave up much. According to Kerry most of the existing sanctions remain in place.


I find it humorous that the head of the Jewish state commented about a Muslim state getting a "Christmas present" for a at least one country where you can't give Christmas presents in the public sector and two others don't recognize it at all.

 

[irishog77]

Oh good because Iran would never go back on their word.

^ This.

This "agreement" is little more than pomp and circumstance and a method for "dignitaries" to feel good about themselves and their jobs.

What are we going to do when Iran breaks the agreement (and does anybody truly believe they won't)? Tell them again? Say we REALLY mean it this time?

Any agreement, rule, contract, or law is only as valid as an ability to enforce it.