Nov 4 | Clemson

NDFAN2008

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I want everyone to take this in…

While trailing 10-6, ND had the following:

Morrison - off
Gray - on

Hart - off
Mickey - on

Harper - off
Lewis - on

Brown - off
Henderson - on

ND had their ENTIRE starting secondary off the field.
Clemson marched down the field running slants & ins.

In the 2nd Q, ND pulled the entire starting secondary, while trailing.

Marcus Freeman is not it.
Why would they pull their starters make zero sense
 

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No I didn’t. I always had this as the #2 hardest game. Clemson at Death Valley is very, very tough. Look up their home record Dodger.
Clemson is down multiple starters and has lost multiple games to teams worse than ND.

They aren't playing out of their minds. ND is laying the duddiest of duds.

They move the ball 3 times into scoring position and settle for FG's each time.

Hartman misses several open looks and throws a horrid pick that results in 7.

Tyree muffs a punt, and there's another shank job punt that sets Clemson up in ND territory, resulting in 10 more.

The defense spends an entire drive with backups in the secondary, miscommunication abound, Clemson drives it down the field for 7.

Every single point Clemson scored was off of sheer idiocy or horrid execution from ND and the coaches. Every. Single. Point.

Meanwhile, Hartman and the interior OL are really trying to out-suck their Louisville performance.
 

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Is our offense SO inept that we've not only been limited to running the ball, but specifically off the tackles? Disgusting.

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Maybe once we have a good OL and experience QB...
 

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I want everyone to take this in…

While trailing 10-6, ND had the following:

Morrison - off
Gray - on

Hart - off
Mickey - on

Harper - off
Lewis - on

Brown - off
Henderson - on

ND had their ENTIRE starting secondary off the field.
Clemson marched down the field running slants & ins.

In the 2nd Q, ND pulled the entire starting secondary, while trailing.

Marcus Freeman is not it.
This, I stated this in less detail earlier

What’s worse is when they were carving us, they didn’t sub starters back in
 

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He was pegged as a late day 3 pick or UFA. So the NFL wasn't impressed with what he did at Wake. This season isn't helping that.
Hartman is a C+ QB. Yes he made some good deep throws but also receivers made some great catches. That pass attempt that got batted down if Hartman steps around that rusher he completes that pass.
2 turn over gave Clemson and easy 14.
OC has to go.
 

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I've noticed that we come out of the gate looking decent offensively each week, but there's typically one shit play call that kills all momentum. It's like there's a clear moment where Parker crumbles.

For me it was a 2nd and 2 early on. You could see a Parker run call coming from forever a way. Clemson did too. Hit for a big loss and since then, a stomping.
 

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It like our training staff gives our players Benadryl before road games
 

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Why would they pull their starters make zero sense
What I’ve noticed, and it’s REALLY STUPID, is ND has been playing the 1st string DL with the 2’s in the secondary & the 1st string secondary with the 2’s on the DL (except the opening drive).

It’s like Freeman is trying really hard to get more players in the game, probably for recruiting knowing him, and it’s a dumpster fire.
 

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I want everyone to take this in…

While trailing 10-6, ND had the following:

Morrison - off
Gray - on

Hart - off
Mickey - on

Harper - off
Lewis - on

Brown - off
Henderson - on

ND had their ENTIRE starting secondary off the field.
Clemson marched down the field running slants & ins.

In the 2nd Q, ND pulled the entire starting secondary, while trailing.

Marcus Freeman is not it.
I was wondering why. Why pull them all?
 

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Florida State played mistake free football and beat Clemson in OT.

Nobody penciled this as an auto W regardless of circumstances. It was winnable, you just had to show up and play. We have not done that, and it doesn’t look like they will.

Besides OSU, this was the only “big boy team” on the schedule. USC is a powder puff team with athletes.


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Florida State played mistake free football and beat Clemson in OT.

Nobody penciled this as an auto W regardless of circumstances. It was winnable, you just had to show up and play. We have not done that, and it doesn’t look like they will.

Besides OSU, this was the only “big boy team” on the schedule. USC is a powder puff team with athletes.


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9-3 (if that) is the bottom line.
 

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No I didn’t. I always had this as the #2 hardest game. Clemson at Death Valley is very, very tough. Look up their home record Dodger.
No you didn’t what? Re-read your post. I know full damn well how good CLemson is. I picked them to beat ND by 3 (look at the prediction thread) despite Vegas, despite Tyler from Spartanburg, despite ND’s dominant D vs Clemson’s makeshift OL & turnover prone QB. This ain’t the NFL. Dabo got his guys up for this week. Freeman did not. Inexcusable. Anything less than 10 wins is a disappointment
 

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It like our training staff gives our players Benadryl before road games

It’s the trade up for using their emotions to get up for big home games unfortunately. Everyone hated BK’s not too high it too low approach but it’s the right one


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Florida State played mistake free football and beat Clemson in OT.

Nobody penciled this as an auto W regardless of circumstances. It was winnable, you just had to show up and play. We have not done that, and it doesn’t look like they will.

Besides OSU, this was the only “big boy team” on the schedule. USC is a powder puff team with athletes.


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Genuinely had no idea why anyone would feel confident against a good Clemson defense when this is Notre Dame’s offense.
 

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Genuinely had no idea why anyone would feel confident against a good Clemson defense when this is Notre Dame’s offense.
Fans are different. Some are Pollyannish, some are negative Nellies, some are “wait & see”. I grew up following Coach Holtz so I’ll always be seen as negative b/c I look for ways ND will lose. I’m seeing a Buddhist about it but it is what it is. After today (barring a miracle); I will not be nearly as confident as I was pregame that ND would win out.
 

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Must stop them quickly on D here… set tone that this will be a game
Yep and then come out and the WR need to get open downfield, and Hartman needs to hit them and they need to run for yards after the catch for TD. Repeatedly.
 
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