NFL Fantasy Football 2015

[dublinirish]

suggest renaming this thread to the "IE Fantasy Football League 2015" or something like that? I'll try and copy and paste in the weekly standings too when available

#familyfriendly

 

[dublinirish]

ive been doing some mock drafts here's the start of one i tried the other day:
1. Andrew Luck (Ind - QB)
2. Mike Evans (TB - WR)
3. DeAndre Hopkins (Hou - WR)
4. Amari Cooper (Oak - WR)
5. Giovani Bernard (Cin - RB)
6. Jason Witten (Dal - TE)
7. Nelson Agholor (Phi - WR)
8. Reggie Bush (SF - RB)
9. Austin Seferian-Jenkins (TB - TE)

I let the CPU draft the rest and it picked RG3 and Big Ben lolz #cpulogic

 

[woolybug25]

Would #FuckMichigan have any interest in changing his team name to something more family-friendly?

Vulgar team names are part of the culture of fantasy football.

You have your kid making moves for you during the season? Who gives a fuq if someone has a vulgar name in a private group? Lame-o

 

[dublinirish]

Vulgar team names are part of the culture of fantasy football.

You have your kid making moves for you during the season? Who gives a fuq if someone has a vulgar name in a private group? Lame-o

maybe his kid is running his FF team for him?

 

[wizards8507]

maybe his kid is running his FF team for him?

Well I clowned all you fools last year so that would be extra embarrassing wouldn't it?

 

[dublinirish]

Well I clowned all you fools last year so that would be extra embarrassing wouldn't it?

 

[IrishLion]

I did a standard 12-team snake draft last night, and had pick 7. Antonio Brown went with pick 6, so I went Dez Bryant and then Gronk when it swung back to me. I was very pleased that Gronk made it to pick 18 of a 12-team draft.

I needed RB's next, and knew some guys would still be around that I liked since the first tier guys were already off the board. I went with Mark Ingram with my third pick, and then pulled the trigger on Carlos Hyde over Lamar Miller and Latavius Murray for my fourth pick.

It's a low-entry-fee league, so I did some major reaching and experimenting later in the draft to try and hit some home runs, as well.

What do you guys think of Hyde this year?

Is San Fran going to use him as a workhorse? I don't know anything about the new coaching staff.

 

[wizards8507]

What do you guys think of Hyde this year?

Is San Fran going to use him as a workhorse? I don't know anything about the new coaching staff.

Probably a good value in the fourth round. There's some speculation that he loses some redzone touches to this Jarryd Hayne guy, but he should be at or above 1,000 yard.

 

[dublinirish]

Probably a good value in the fourth round. There's some speculation that he loses some redzone touches to this Jarryd Hayne guy, but he should be at or above 1,000 yard.

they drafted that kid outta SCar too in the 4th round, Hayne would be the 5th back if he makes the roster

 

[blueNDgold44]

10 team keeper league, I ended up with Rodgers, Ingram, Gurley, ODBjr, AJ Green, V Jax, B Marsh, Agholor, Lockett, Hyde, Doug Martin, Sankey, and Rudolph. AP, Marshawn, and Shady were the only elite/top tier RBs in the draft pool and having a late pick they were already out of play by my pick. With losing my 1st keeping Rodgers, I had AJ Green fall in my lap in the 2nd round and then had to reach for Ingram in the 3rd. My case and point, running backs are sooooooo thin I couldn't fathom going anywhere else in a non keeper league with my 1st pick.

 

[IrishLion]

I really do feel like running back is a crapshoot once you get past the top 15 or 16 guys (depending on what rankings you're looking at), with the exception of a few outliers depending on your personal beliefs.

1 A. Peterson
2 J. Charles
3 E. Lacy
4 L. Bell
5 L. Miller
6 M. Lynch
7 C. Spiller
8 M. Forte
9 L. McCoy
10 C. Anderson
11 J. Hill
12 D. Murray
13 M. Gordon
14 A. Ellington
15 G. Bernard
16 J. Forsett
17 L. Murray
18 J. Randle
19 J. Stewart
20 F. Gore
21 T. Gurley
22 C. Hyde
23 T. Yeldon
24 S. Vereen
25 M. Ingram
26 A. Abdullah
27 C. Ivory
28 J. Bell
29 L. Blount
30 A. Morris

 

[IrishLion]

In the above example, the only three guys that I trust outside of the top 16 are Ingram, Morris and maybe/hopefully Hyde.

I know Ingram will probably be a workhorse this year, and Morris is going to get plenty of work, and hopefully Hyde will too.

But I don't trust Murray, Randle, Stewart, Gore or Yeldon. Too many chances that those teams could go "by committee" and kill fantasy production. And that means you're going to be pressing hard to get two sure-fire RB's in a 12-team league.

 

[Irish Insanity]

Why is Alfred Morris ranked so low. Didn't his only competition leave the team? Dude has been solid the last few years. He had 1000+ yards last year and 8 TDs while splitting time.

 

[IrishLion]

Why is Alfred Morris ranked so low. Didn't his only competition leave the team? Dude has been solid the last few years. He had 1000+ yards last year and 8 TDs while splitting time.

No idea, and I don't agree with it. I just pulled USA Today's rankings because they were easier to copy than Yahoo/ESPN's lol.

 

[woolybug25]

Why is Alfred Morris ranked so low. Didn't his only competition leave the team? Dude has been solid the last few years. He had 1000+ yards last year and 8 TDs while splitting time.

Because his success correlates directly with how good the team is, which is a total crapshoot in Washington.

In 2012, the Redskins had a good season (10-6, 1st in the AFC East). That year he went bonkers for 1,613 yards. But in 2013... when they stunk up the joint (3-13, Last in the NFC East) and you saw his numbers decline. Then they declined again in '14.

So you have to ask yourself, do you want to bet on the Redskins being good?

I think that even if they stink, he'll still be around 1,000 yards and 5-8 TD's. He has a pretty high floor. But his upside is tremendous.

 

[irishfan]

I only play PPR so I pretty much put RBs on the back burner unless I fall a$$ backwards into a guy who I can't pass on. It might seem like a dumb strategy to go early with WR/QB/TE, but it always works for me. Really hoping for Spiller and Abdullah, although I think Vereen/Woodhead will be solid PPR options also.

Intrigued by Murray in Oakland and Gurley of course. I think Gurley could do what Jeremy Hill did over the second half of the season last year if they keep him healthy early.

 

[bkess8]

I hit renew on last year's league. I'm sure we had some people last year who won't do it again this year. Let me know if you are interested. Wizard, Dublin and Rhode, I think you should all be in it.

Any openings left? If so I would like to participate!

 

[dublinirish]

In the above example, the only three guys that I trust outside of the top 16 are Ingram, Morris and maybe/hopefully Hyde.

I know Ingram will probably be a workhorse this year, and Morris is going to get plenty of work, and hopefully Hyde will too.

But I don't trust Murray, Randle, Stewart, Gore or Yeldon. Too many chances that those teams could go "by committee" and kill fantasy production. And that means you're going to be pressing hard to get two sure-fire RB's in a 12-team league.

Abdullah is a sleeper, but then again there is always a rookie RB who is well regarded but produces little..i had ryan matthews when he was a rookie on the Chargers and kept him all year but he never got a 100 yards til i benched him

 

[woolybug25]

Abdullah is a sleeper, but then again there is always a rookie RB who is well regarded but produces little..i had ryan matthews when he was a rookie on the Chargers and kept him all year but he never got a 100 yards til i benched him

I like Abdullah, but he'll be drafted way too high for me to grab him. The reality is that he is a rookie that has to compete with Joique Bell and Theo Riddick. A tandem that sent Reggie Bush packing. They both know the offense (a pass first offense, mind) and both excel at pass protection.

I think Abdullah has future star potential, but i'm not sold that it will culminate in his rookie year. Even if he has a decent season, I don't think it will justify where someone is going draft him.

This all coming from a math nerd that puts a huge weighted average on the RB position.

 

[dublinirish]

I like Abdullah, but he'll be drafted way too high for me to grab him. The reality is that he is a rookie that has to compete with Joique Bell and Theo Riddick. A tandem that sent Reggie Bush packing. They both know the offense (a pass first offense, mind) and both excel at pass protection.

I think Abdullah has future star potential, but i'm not sold that it will culminate in his rookie year. Even if he has a decent season, I don't think it will justify where someone is going draft him.

This all coming from a math nerd that puts a huge weighted average on the RB position.

i agree, i've done some mock drafts and he always seems to be reached for when the elite backs like lacy, charles, AP are gone. Kid would be a good pickup in a keeper league though

 

[gkIrish]

I'm in again

 

[IrishLion]

I like Abdullah, but he'll be drafted way too high for me to grab him. The reality is that he is a rookie that has to compete with Joique Bell and Theo Riddick. A tandem that sent Reggie Bush packing. They both know the offense (a pass first offense, mind) and both excel at pass protection.

I think Abdullah has future star potential, but i'm not sold that it will culminate in his rookie year. Even if he has a decent season, I don't think it will justify where someone is going draft him.

This all coming from a math nerd that puts a huge weighted average on the RB position.

i agree, i've done some mock drafts and he always seems to be reached for when the elite backs like lacy, charles, AP are gone. Kid would be a good pickup in a keeper league though

Abdullah was drafted before Bell in the draft I had on Sunday... I could see maybe picking 12, and taking Bell/Abdullah back-to-back on the swing as a starter/handcuff move, but I WOULD NOT draft Abdullah independently. If you're going to go in on Abdullah as one of your starting RB's, I think you need to make sure you have Bell as well.

And that's a big reason I don't trust the guys outside of the top 15/16. A guy like Yeldon could be a monster, but Denard was actually a very serviceable running back late last year, so that's not a given. Could be a committee, and that kills fantasy value. Same with Frank Gore and Bradshaw in Indy, and the Giants' entire backfield.

 

[dublinirish]

Abdullah was drafted before Bell in the draft I had on Sunday... I could see maybe picking 12, and taking Bell/Abdullah back-to-back on the swing as a starter/handcuff move, but I WOULD NOT draft Abdullah independently. If you're going to go in on Abdullah as one of your starting RB's, I think you need to make sure you have Bell as well.

And that's a big reason I don't trust the guys outside of the top 15/16. A guy like Yeldon could be a monster, but Denard was actually a very serviceable running back late last year, so that's not a given. Could be a committee, and that kills fantasy value. Same with Frank Gore and Bradshaw in Indy, and the Giants' entire backfield.

yeah i had what i thought the perfect scenario last year with Lacy and Gio Bernard but Gio let me down big time with his injuries and the emergence of Jeremy Hill.

IMO They really need to devalue RB's more in FF nowadays. there just aren't enough top do it all guys in the league to make it fair anymore. If you take a top guy and he does not perform your whole team is screwed for the whole season

 

[wizards8507]

Looks like we have everyone from last year except Kaneyoufeelit.

 

[woolybug25]

Abdullah was drafted before Bell in the draft I had on Sunday... I could see maybe picking 12, and taking Bell/Abdullah back-to-back on the swing as a starter/handcuff move, but I WOULD NOT draft Abdullah independently. If you're going to go in on Abdullah as one of your starting RB's, I think you need to make sure you have Bell as well.

And that's a big reason I don't trust the guys outside of the top 15/16. A guy like Yeldon could be a monster, but Denard was actually a very serviceable running back late last year, so that's not a given. Could be a committee, and that kills fantasy value. Same with Frank Gore and Bradshaw in Indy, and the Giants' entire backfield.

Drafting Abdullah before Bell is criminally dumb. Bell is the incumbent starter and a three down back. Was this guy some homer Lions fan or something?

One thing to think about with RB's though, is that there will only be roughly 20 RB's that will average over 10 PPG (assuming PPR). You also have to fill two spots for the position. Guys like Denard helped people last season, but he wasn't a stable back. He only averaged 6.6 PPG.

 

[woolybug25]

IMO They really need to devalue RB's more in FF nowadays. there just aren't enough top do it all guys in the league to make it fair anymore. If you take a top guy and he does not perform your whole team is screwed for the whole season

Everybody keeps saying this, but it doesn't make mathematical sense. How can you devalue a position in which you HAVE to have two starters on your team? It's not like you can replace them with WR's. You have to play RB's. So if the amount of quality RB's is a scarce commodity, then demand should be even more high for them.

I went back and looked at all of the top finishers in my league over the last decade. Nobody goes deep without a solid RB corp. At least that's how its always been for me.

 

[IrishLion]

Drafting Abdullah before Bell is criminally dumb. Bell is the incumbent starter and a three down back. Was this guy some homer Lions fan or something?

I think he was putting way too much stock in the Yahoo "notes" on Abdullah, and also (like most casual fans) was infatuated with Abdullah's long run in the first preseason game. I think he beats out Riddick for number two, but trusting him to be your number one only works if you are banking on him for later in the year, and even then I don't trust it.

One thing to think about with RB's though, is that there will only be roughly 20 RB's that will average over 10 PPG (assuming PPR). You also have to fill two spots for the position. Guys like Denard helped people last season, but he wasn't a stable back. He only averaged 6.6 PPG.

Right, that's why I still try to go RB/RB to start my draft if I'm in a position to do so. With the 7th pick in a 12-team draft, I couldn't justify taking a 2nd-tier RB over Dez and then Gronk when it swung back around. I would have reached for RB's at those spots if I didn't think some quality guys and legit no.1 backs wouldn't be available in the third/fourth.

As for Robinson, he averaged over 11 ppg, once he became the feature back I think. I don't trust that production to continue at all, but I also don't trust him to be a non-factor, so I don't trust Yeldon either.

 

[dublinirish]

Everybody keeps saying this, but it doesn't make mathematical sense. How can you devalue a position in which you HAVE to have two starters on your team? It's not like you can replace them with WR's. You have to play RB's. So if the amount of quality RB's is a scarce commodity, then demand should be even more high for them.

I went back and looked at all of the top finishers in my league over the last decade. Nobody goes deep without a solid RB corp. At least that's how its always been for me.

My point is probably more to take away the requirement to have two RB's. With two RB's you would expect that in a normal 12 man league each team has 1 elite RB, this is rarely the case as these kind of players are so scarce in terms of ability + carries.

 

[#1rish]

Assuming it's ok to discuss all fantasy football in this thread? If so...

Had a draft last night for one of my leagues, thoughts? 10-team standard.

QB - P. Manning
WR - A. Brown
WR - T. Hilton
RB - C. Anderson
RB - M. Ingram
TE - T. Eifert
Flex - K. Allen

BN - A. Abdullah
BN - R. Jennings
BN - R. White
BN - A. Blue
BN - T. Smith
BN - M. Ball

K - M. Crosby
DEF - Ariz

 

[IrishLion]

I like to go with a RB as a flex, especially in a 10-team league where it's realistic to grab three sure-fire workhorses.

BUT I do like your team, especially that receiving corps, and especially if Jennings shows to be a legit #1 RB.

Where did you draft Eifert? He goes early in my leagues because there are usually plenty of Bengals fans involved. I feel like he would be a steal as a late-round starter in leagues in other parts of the country, where you could ignore TE until late in the draft and grab Eifert to be your guy.