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I'M OKAY WITH THE BEARS FIRING LOVIE SMITH. I HAVE TO SAY THOUGH, BEARS YOU BETTER GET THIS RIGHT! YOU JUST FIRED A SOLID COACH. NOT A GREAT COACH. BEARS FANS KNOW LOVIE HAD SOME FLAWS. THAT BEING SAID YOU COULD DO WORSE THAN LOVIE SMITH AS YOUR HEAD COACH. PHIL EMRY YOU BETTER GET THIS HIRE RIGHT!

You generally do the opposite of what you did before when hiring a coach in any sport. So if Lovie was defense guy then wisdom suggests the Bears will go for some hot shot OC. That too me is a mistake. We need to improve the offense while continuing to have a top flight defense. We need a coach that will excel on both sides of the ball.
 

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I'M OKAY WITH THE BEARS FIRING LOVIE SMITH. I HAVE TO SAY THOUGH, BEARS YOU BETTER GET THIS RIGHT! YOU JUST FIRED A SOLID COACH. NOT A GREAT COACH. BEARS FANS KNOW LOVIE HAD SOME FLAWS. THAT BEING SAID YOU COULD DO WORSE THAN LOVIE SMITH AS YOUR HEAD COACH. PHIL EMRY YOU BETTER GET THIS HIRE RIGHT!

You generally do the opposite of what you did before when hiring a coach in any sport. So if Lovie was defense guy then wisdom suggests the Bears will go for some hot shot OC. That too me is a mistake. We need to improve the offense while continuing to have a top flight defense. We need a coach that will excel on both sides of the ball.

I think you just described the desire of every owner and AD from every sport at every level.

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With Lovie getting fired, I am hopeful that the next coach drops the Tampa two, a pass catching TE is drafted, putting a legitimate #2 receiver on the field instead of a group of #3 receivers and 1 true receiver (Marshall), better/younger defense and most importantly, the drafting of an offensive line. Although, most of the blame should go towards Angelo for his horrific drafting, I am very surprised because the McCaskey's respect and love Lovie, not to mention the fact that they are very Cheap. It has been mentioned that they are looking for a better OC to bring in for the offense as a priority.


Also, reports of Chip having serious interest in Philly...

I know... It's such a drag leading the league in forced turnovers.
 

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Did the owner give him some type of assurrance that new GM has to keep him for at least one year?

If not we still don't know yet.
The GM Tannenbaum was fired but they kept Rex... I believe Tebow will get cut...
 

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Ryan needs to go. His type of coaching style is a quick short term fix that fades after 2-3 years as evidenced by the results.

They might as well keep garret in Dallas. As long as Jones continues to be hands on and call all the shots the Cowboys will languish in mediocrity..

Jerry Jones is the next Al Davis. No one who has a monster ego will ever set foot near that mess.
 

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Charles Tillman?

Is Tillman also the reason they have more forced turnovers than any nfl team over the last nine seasons? Tillman hasnt even been a dominant player until last season.

The Bears have had one of the most dominant and consistent defenses in football over the last nine seasons, so I simply don't understand the logic of naming it first in things to change. I don't agree with your comments about the WR's either. It's probably the most talented group of WR's the Bears have had since the 80's (maybe even longer).

In my opinion, the Bears problems lie first and foremost on the terrible offensive line. They have both been terribly drafted, devoloped and coached. Secondly, the team has aged too far. Guys like Urlacher are killing our ability to pay other guys and they aren't even on the field consistently.

I agree with the decision, despite my admiration of Lovie, but defensive scheme is the very lowest concern I could possibly have.
 
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wow!!! whats that eight and counting? With all these NFL openings does this mean the raiding of college coaches is coming. I know there are a couple top name NFL coaches (gruden and cower). Other than that it looks like alot of teams will be shuffling staffs.
 

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I know... It's such a drag leading the league in forced turnovers.

Thank you. The Bears D was hardly our problem.

If people complain about Lovie Smith being unable to find an OC, and develope the Bears offense I'm on board.

Seriously when it comes to Lovie's defense and the Tampa 2 there is not much to complain about. Everyone said the Bear's D was over the hill and old. They came out and got 9 defensive TDs and I think ons has to credit the defensive staff as much as one critizes the offensive staff.
 

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Glad the Colts snagged a couple of solid coaches this previous year while a fourth of the NFL will be looking for new coaches.
 

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Is Tillman also the reason they have more forced turnovers than any nfl team over the last nine seasons? Tillman hasnt even been a dominant player until last season.

The Bears have had one of the most dominant and consistent defenses in football over the last nine seasons, so I simply don't understand the logic of naming it first in things to change. I don't agree with your comments about the WR's either. It's probably the most talented group of WR's the Bears have had since the 80's (maybe even longer).

In my opinion, the Bears problems lie first and foremost on the terrible offensive line. They have both been terribly drafted, devoloped and coached. Secondly, the team has aged too far. Guys like Urlacher are killing our ability to pay other guys and they aren't even on the field consistently.

I agree with the decision, despite my admiration of Lovie, but defensive scheme is the very lowest concern I could possibly have.
Its hard to dispute your points but I'll try... There's a pattern with the recievers:

2008
The top 3 receivers were Devin Hester 51 catches for 665 yards, Greg Olsen 54 catches for 574 yards and Matt Forte 63 catches for 477 yards.


In 2010, Knox, grabbed 51 passes for 1,068 , Bennett caught 50 passes for 619 yards,Hester, a return specialist, caught 42 balls for 486 yards, R. Williams...No comment.

2012

Brandon Marshall 118 catches 1,508 yards, Matt Forte 44 catches 340 yards, Earl Bennett 29 catches 375 yards,

Alshon Jeffery 24 catches 367 yards, Devin Hester 23 catches 242 yards, Kellen Davis 19 catches 229 yards.

In Super Bowl XLI, Urlacher and the entire defense wanting to continue blitzing Peyton and the Colts (slight rambling) because Peyton seemed rattled but he was over-ruled and Rivera was made the scapegoat... (I blame the coach) That being said, its hard to argue defensive stats.
 

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Its hard to dispute your points but I'll try... There's a pattern with the recievers:

2008
The top 3 receivers were Devin Hester 51 catches for 665 yards, Greg Olsen 54 catches for 574 yards and Matt Forte 63 catches for 477 yards.


In 2010, Knox, grabbed 51 passes for 1,068 , Bennett caught 50 passes for 619 yards,Hester, a return specialist, caught 42 balls for 486 yards, R. Williams...No comment.

2012

Brandon Marshall 118 catches 1,508 yards, Matt Forte 44 catches 340 yards, Earl Bennett 29 catches 375 yards,

Alshon Jeffery 24 catches 367 yards, Devin Hester 23 catches 242 yards, Kellen Davis 19 catches 229 yards.

In Super Bowl XLI, Urlacher and the entire defense wanting to continue blitzing Peyton and the Colts (slight rambling) because Peyton seemed rattled but he was over-ruled and Rivera was made the scapegoat... (I blame the coach) That being said, its hard to argue defensive stats.

I have no idea what point you are trying to make with that? Looks like our overall receiving numbers are better and more spread out than the other two random years you produced. With more actual receivers getting touches, including a very talented rookie that we just drafted.
 

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Is Tillman also the reason they have more forced turnovers than any nfl team over the last nine seasons? Tillman hasnt even been a dominant player until last season.

The Bears have had one of the most dominant and consistent defenses in football over the last nine seasons, so I simply don't understand the logic of naming it first in things to change. I don't agree with your comments about the WR's either. It's probably the most talented group of WR's the Bears have had since the 80's (maybe even longer).

In my opinion, the Bears problems lie first and foremost on the terrible offensive line. They have both been terribly drafted, devoloped and coached. Secondly, the team has aged too far. Guys like Urlacher are killing our ability to pay other guys and they aren't even on the field consistently.

I agree with the decision, despite my admiration of Lovie, but defensive scheme is the very lowest concern I could possibly have.

I don't think the Tampa 2 is the reason, but more so the players. Dungy ran the Tampa 2 in TB and Indy and his defenses were never that great. When Indy won the SB the Colts D happened to get Bob "The Hitman" Sanders back when the playoffs started. That was the best stretch of D the Colts played for 10 years. Sanders was cut because he couldn't stay healthy and the Tampa 2 looked bad again.
 

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Jerry Jones is the next Al Davis. No one who has a monster ego will ever set foot near that mess.

I thought it would be funny to see Nick Saban coach the Cowboys but it will not happen no matter how much Jerry pays him because of the point above. AND Saban has a massive ego.
 

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The first thing Jerry Jones needs to do is fire himself as the Dallas GM.
 

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Rex is staying, means another year of the NY Jokes....As a Steeler fan, I'll take it.
 

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Adam Schefter‏@AdamSchefter

Andy Reid has emerged as the leading candidate to become Arizona's next HC and could be named to job by end of the week, per league sources.

One league source said he was "95 percent" certain former Eagles HC Andy Reid will wind up coaching the Cardinals.
 
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