Next year's coach!

[GoldenDomer]

His defenses at GT have typically been awful despite the fact his offense dominates time of possession. More often than not you need an elite D to win a championship.

I'll take the risk of experimentation at this point.

 

[chicago51]

Patterson isn't a reach and would be an upgrade

Patterson is a reach because of the comfort level and security he has with TCU you. Plus he has taken the program from a middling WAC school, to mountain west champ / BCS buster, to a playoff contender (despite a rocky start in the Big 12). The program is his baby and I think we wants to try to take it to the summit.

Plus if you hypothetically if make the move now to replace Kelly Patterson would not be an option assuming he is in the playoff. Colleges typically want their HC in place before the end of the bowl season. No way Patterson gives up shot at the title this year to coach at ND. ND would have to wait an awfully long time to speak with him when he may not even be interested.

I love Gary Patterson but it aint happening.

 

[Spitfire]

I'd take Gruden and be excited about it, but I'm hesitant to name him the #1 considering how long he's been out of football, and also no college HC experience.

I would be pretty excited with Gruden just based on what I think he could do in recruiting. He is a big name still relevant with a lot of these kids. I think he would absolutely kill it at a Saban -Pete Carroll level recruiting. I wouldn't worry a whole lot about adjusting because of the type of worker he is and he really seems to stay on top of the trends in college game. Well worth the risk in my opinion.

 

[Junkhead]

This season went to the shitter after FSU. Going back a week earlier, this D has given up an average 41.6 points per game from NC through USC. Injuries are horrific yes, but over 40pts per game?? I'm definitely not sold on BVG, and fact is, he doesn't stick around anywhere long. As far as HC, If Kelly loses more than 2 games next year, I'd start looking around.

 

[GoldenDomer]

Bring in Harbaugh. Fiery tough coach who will get some anger out of the group

 

[Irish2155]

Dantanio and maybe hope chip Kelly gets the itch for college ball

Dantanio...no.

Chip Kelly...hell yes, that dude is good.

 

[ACamp1900]

Bring in Harbaugh. Fiery tough coach who will get some anger out of the group

Yet I am called out for being unrealistic about Patterson... (Roll eyes)

 

[Grahambo]

Dantanio...no.

Chip Kelly...hell yes, that dude is good.

Guys seem to really enjoy playing for him.

 

[chicago51]

Bring in Harbaugh. Fiery tough coach who will get some anger out of the group

I think if he went back to college it would only be for Michigan unfortunately. I think if he leaves San Fransisco he'll end up in Chicago to coach the Bears, and I'm not sure how I feel about that.

 

[Grahambo]

Yet I am called out for being unrealistic about Patterson... (Roll eyes)

My two cents:

Unrealistic in the sense that I don't think Patterson would leave TCU. Maybe. But you just don't hear rumblings about it like you do Harbaugh. The guy has been supposedly on his way out since the start of the season.

I didn't call you out so I don't really know.

Besides, his wife is on record saying she prefers to stay West Coast.

 

[Jerry]

Gruden has been out of the game long enough that kids don't really know him. Not sure he's the answer.

 

[Catholics_Rule]

Brian Kelly is still the head coach. The defense got tore up with some unfortunate injuries. The suspensions I don't take into account. It's an acedemic issue, and those students knew better.

But the way Golson regressed was horrible and Brian Kelly should have made a change much sooner than he did during the season. 7-5 IMO is unacceptable in his 5th season. It shouldn't be good enough or acceptable for any Irish fan. With the exception of the 2012 season, the best has been 8 wins. It's better Than what Charlie Weis did in his last 3 seasons but Notre Dame has given Brian Kelly MORE than Notre Dame head coach than I can remember.

I think it's kind of ridiculous to think Brian Kelly should be replaced but next season needs to be a 10+ winning season. I'm tired listening to "next year, next year". It's time for him to start delivering.

 

[irishandy]

I didn't read this whole thread and its not worth reading this whole thread.

Kelly will be and should be back this year. You can only blame the coach so much. He finally made the best coaching move all year by pulling Golson, which should've been done earlier this season. This thread should read next year's QB because that is where it starts on the field.

 

[ACamp1900]

My two cents:

Unrealistic in the sense that I don't think Patterson would leave TCU. Maybe. But you just don't hear rumblings about it like you do Harbaugh. The guy has been supposedly on his way out since the start of the season.

I didn't call you out so I don't really know.

Besides, his wife is on record saying she prefers to stay West Coast.

If a coach wouldn't leave TCU for ND then the dream is over forever anyway... End discussion right dafaq there

 

[Spitfire]

I think if he went back to college it would only be for Michigan unfortunately. I think if he leaves San Fransisco he'll end up in Chicago to coach the Bears, and I'm not sure how I feel about that.

I agree on Michigan, but I have heard if he leaves San Francisco there is a really good chance he ends up in Oakland coaching the Raiders.

 

[connor_in]

Saban or we kill the football program

 

[ACamp1900]

Gruden has been out of the game long enough that kids don't really know him. Not sure he's the answer.

Every kid knows him, he'd be the MNF rock star, but him being out of the game may kill him in game... Kids not knowing him wouldn't be the issue tho... They know him

 

[Spitfire]

Gruden has been out of the game long enough that kids don't really know him. Not sure he's the answer.

Really? He is in their living room's every Monday night. Kid's know who he is.

 

[chicago51]

Rex Ryan. I hear he might be available.

 

[GoldenDomer]

Rex Ryan. I hear he might be available.

We'd have better chemistry to be honest.

 

[Irish2155]

I'll pass Rex Ryan for BK any day of the week...

His, wife though, I hear is a freak...

 

[chicago51]

I agree on Michigan, but I have heard if he leaves San Francisco there is a really good chance he ends up in Oakland coaching the Raiders.

He does love the Bay area.

 

[ulukinatme]

This thread is just silly. I've seen Stoops, Meyer, Patterson, Shaw, Mora, Briles, Gruden, Dantonio, and others thrown around. None of these guys would leave their current jobs for ND. Gruden must be making bank doing his TV job, because every program in America throws his name out and he's still doing TV, you've got to shake your head anytime his name is thrown out there. Why would a guy like Meyer leave tOSU where he can bring in better athletes and compete every year in a watered down B1G? Not to mention the fact tOSU will pay him and we probably wouldn't match it. Same goes for Stoops, he's the 3rd highest paid coach in the country. Dantonio is #2 and has MSU in good position to compete each year, even if Meyer has more advantages. Patterson makes 4 million a year, we wouldn't pay him that and he's doing just fine in the Big 12. Briles makes twice as much Kelly, and I'm sure we would match it to bring him in, but I think they just renegotiated his buyout and we don't need to be paying any buyouts again.

It's very unlikely you will find a better replacement for Brian Kelly than Kelly himself this year. He has his flaws, but the likelihood that we wind up with another Willingham or Davie is high if we boot him this year. We had major defensive injury issues as well as the suspensions. Yes, Kelly could have made some better changes down the stretch and changed some calls, but the fact remains we weren't going to get into the playoff with this roster as it is. This thread is just ridiculous.

 

[Irish Insanity]

I hear what you are saying. But you can't run the ball down 28 points. Also, USC was crowding the line in the first, ND had no chance to run the ball.

We didn't run the ball before we were to that point, or in several other games this year when it would have benefited our D and lead to a W.

Your avatar is fine its just that we lost 2 starting cb's, one LB, 2 replacement LBs, 2 starting safeties, and 2 starting DLinemen. Don't care who is coaching ,even Belechick, this is tough to overcome.

That's why I give BVG more of a pass. BK, man up, take responsibility, respect your players and they might you, and hire a fucking OC

A big obstacle to hiring Muschamp is that Kelly has for the most part only hired coaches he is familiar with and has some sort of connection or history with.

So he keeps it close with 'yes' men. Maybe that is half the problem.

Maybe Kelly needs some coaches on his staff that aren't from his coaching tree. It isn't always good to surround yourself with your "boys". Maybe no one on the staff will offer a dissenting opinion because a good amount have been with him for quite awhile.

Absolutely correct

Bring in Harbaugh. Fiery tough coach who will get some anger out of the group

ND will never pull a name like that. Or a Gruden. Or anyone that demands complete control. It's been a tug o war with BK and he doesn't have anything close to their resume.

 

[Junkhead]

Saban or we kill the football program

I saw a sign on Gameday that said...."Saban is on Myspace". Would we really want him????

 

[Spitfire]

This thread is just silly. I've seen Stoops, Meyer, Patterson, Shaw, Mora, Briles, Gruden, Dantonio, and others thrown around. None of these guys would leave their current jobs for ND. Gruden must be making bank doing his TV job, because every program in America throws his name out and he's still doing TV, you've got to shake your head anytime his name is thrown out there. Why would a guy like Meyer leave tOSU where he can bring in better athletes and compete every year in a watered down B1G? Not to mention the fact tOSU will pay him and we probably wouldn't match it. Same goes for Stoops, he's the 3rd highest paid coach in the country. Dantonio is #2 and has MSU in good position to compete each year, even if Meyer has more advantages. Patterson makes 4 million a year, we wouldn't pay him that and he's doing just fine in the Big 12. Briles makes twice as much Kelly, and I'm sure we would match it to bring him in, but I think they just renegotiated his buyout and we don't need to be paying any buyouts again.

It's very unlikely you will find a better replacement for Brian Kelly than Kelly himself this year. He has his flaws, but the likelihood that we wind up with another Willingham or Davie is high if we boot him this year. We had major defensive injury issues as well as the suspensions. Yes, Kelly could have made some better changes down the stretch and changed some calls, but the fact remains we weren't going to get into the playoff with this roster as it is. This thread is just ridiculous.

I'm not sure where you are getting your information from, but the information I'm looking at says Kelly is tied for 10th in salary with six other coaches at 4 million a year. That put's him ahead of both Dantonio (3.7 million) and Patterson (3.5 million).

I'm tired of the chicken little's bemoaning the possibility of ending up with another "Weis or Willingham" as a reason to hold on to Kelly from now until eternity. If you are happy with 8-5 seasons....then Kelly is the guy for you. I'm not happy with 8-5 seasons and would risk the off chance that we end up with another turd than sit through another under performing and unorganized bunch under Kelly.

Yes, there have been injuries, but Brian Kelly himself as coach and coordinator has just been horrible down the stretch from personnel decisions to play calling, both of which have nothing to do with logic and everything to do with his ego. If he doesn't win next season then he can take his ego and GTFO.

 

[absoluteirish59]

This is what I have been saying for the last 2 months. Brian Kelly is a good X and O coach but does not have those intangibles to be a head coach of a major college football program. There is an old saying among football coaches, "you can lose a game as a coach but once you've lost the team its time to move on".

 

[levicarvalho]

One thing we all can agree: ND football is playing lifeless for the last two decades and a half. This team is painful to watch...the defense is often soft and the offense dont smash any small programs. What was the last time ND put more than 50 points in a game? This program need someone to bring some swag and life to South Bend, otherwise, the next few years will be mediocre again. I think someone like Art Briles would do that.

 

[NoJusticeNoPeace]

Yes I think the lack of a stylistic identity hurts. Oregon has its brand of football, Alabama has its brand of football, Baylor has its brand of football. We need ours.

 

[Ignats]

Yes I think the lack of a stylistic identity hurts. Oregon has its brand of football, Alabama has its brand of football, Baylor has its brand of football. We need ours.

I'm with you on that.

My number one complaint has been his ego. I would love to see him get an O-Coordinator and let him take control. We throw the ball as many times as Green Bay or New Orleans does but yet we don't have a Rodgers or Brees. Until we do it's time to balance out this offense and ride Folston and Bryant a little more. Even when we're down.