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[stonebreakerwasgod]

Irishdodger and stoney are you guys actually Sean Hannity? I listen to your show nearly everyday! Here I thought it was Marv the whole time

Well, Great Americans think alike. We don't like b.s., nor do we lay down when something requires us to stand up. It's a shame that we have to argue about supporting our nation.

 

[lattedatte]

Well, Great Americans think alike. We don't like b.s., nor do we lay down when something requires us to stand up. It's a shame that we have to argue about supporting our nation.

I knew it was you, you ARE a great American!!! Maybe Marv is actually Ann Coulter? It is uncanny how you type word for word what I hear on my drive home, great job.

 

[stonebreakerwasgod]

LOL i listen to lots of people. Democrats listen to Rush and Hannity because he offers even them a voice to air differing views. Also, and you may not believe it, I have never caught either one of them in a lie. While their views may not always be liked, they have credibility with their audience, which is why they are so popular. Air America folded because people tire of straight bashing and misrepresentation. You would be surprised that most conservatives feel the same way about most issues. It is not about echooing what they say, its that they voice what we feel.
Ann Coulter is entertaining, but extreme. She does not represent the majority of conservatives on all topics.

 

[lattedatte]

LOL i listen to lots of people. Democrats listen to Rush and Hannity because he offers even them a voice to air differing views. Also, and you may not believe it, I have never caught either one of them in a lie. While their views may not always be liked, they have credibility with their audience, which is why they are so popular. Air America folded because people tire of straight bashing and misrepresentation. You would be surprised that most conservatives feel the same way about most issues. It is not about echooing what they say, its that they voice what we feel.
Ann Coulter is entertaining, but extreme. She does not represent the majority of conservatives on all topics.

I do like Hannity, he is quite articulate. Think rush is a blowhard and a hypocrite. And it IS almost scary how your particular sect of the party feels the same way about every single issue, its like the boy scouts or nazis(ok, just kidding really). Most of my buddies(since I'm in finance) are "conservatives" and you sound exactly like them on EVERY issue. Its amazing. They are recruiting me hard, but I cannot ever come over to your side becuase, I think the religious right is ruining this country. I like the middle and the middle is where i plan on staying.

Dems listen to Hannity and co. becuase there is no other radio option. You guys have taken over the free airwaves.

 

[marv81s]

Small price to pay since the left and far left control most of the news on TV

 

[stonebreakerwasgod]

I do like Hannity, he is quite articulate. Think rush is a blowhard and a hypocrite. And it IS almost scary how your particular sect of the party feels the same way about every single issue, its like the boy scouts or nazis(ok, just kidding really). Most of my buddies(since I'm in finance) are "conservatives" and you sound exactly like them on EVERY issue. Its amazing. They are recruiting me hard, but I cannot ever come over to your side becuase, I think the religious right is ruining this country. I like the middle and the middle is where i plan on staying.

Dems listen to Hannity and co. becuase there is no other radio option. You guys have taken over the free airwaves.

It's not about taking over the airwaves. There is plenty of opportunity for libs to have their airtime. The problem is that the cons and moderates don't want to hear about the same b.s. that they always put out. Much of what rush's and hannity's show is about informing the audience and the sharing of info. Also, people like Alec Baldwin, Franken, and others think it's easy to have a radio show. It does actually take some talent.

I actually did listen to Franken for a short amount of time for awhile. Just to be 'fair and balanced'. It was a veritable "bush lied, people died', halliburton sucks, cheney and rove are evil, bush is stupid. Not exactly new info coming out from their mouth, nor is it particularly appealing to anyone except the far left fringe. Hard to attract a wide audience when you are in constant attack mode. They simply can't help themselves. Whether Obama is a big liberal or not (i believe that he is), people gravitate to him because he does not spew the venom that others put out. It is amazing how it works.

 

[lattedatte]

It's not about taking over the airwaves. There is plenty of opportunity for libs to have their airtime. The problem is that the cons and moderates don't want to hear about the same b.s. that they always put out. Much of what rush's and hannity's show is about informing the audience and the sharing of info. Also, people like Alec Baldwin, Franken, and others think it's easy to have a radio show. It does actually take some talent.

I actually did listen to Franken for a short amount of time for awhile. Just to be 'fair and balanced'. It was a veritable "bush lied, people died', halliburton sucks, cheney and rove are evil, bush is stupid. Not exactly new info coming out from their mouth, nor is it particularly appealing to anyone except the far left fringe. Hard to attract a wide audience when you are in constant attack mode. They simply can't help themselves. Whether Obama is a big liberal or not (i believe that he is), people gravitate to him because he does not spew the venom that others put out. It is amazing how it works.

I agree the dems are a party without an identity right now and certainly were the first to start negative politics(LBJ on Goldwater) so I will never dispute that they spew venom. My problem is whatever you and marv want to believe, your party is a party of contradiction right now. I reference post 8 again. That is why I'm struggling with whom to vote for but Guiliani will fix that.

The venom is on both sides though, even Hannity spews a lot lately.

I have no clue what Obama is, I will certainly be researching him.

BTW- shouldn't you and Marv be at church right now, lol...

Just so everyone knows that i'm just not flaming, here are some of the things I believe in(in no order):

1. Small gov't, both in dollars and influence on your personal life(see 3 below).
2. Low taxes on middle and low classes.
3. Seperation of church and state.
4. Secure borders.
5. Strong defense.
6. Balanced budgets.
7. Pro-choice for raped and molested.
8. Believe in equal right for gays, in fact the govt shouldn't even be involved(see 3 above).
9. Global warming is something we should do something about.
10. Stem cell reserch is a good thing.
11. I hate welfare.

just to name a few, you guys could label me whatever you want.

 

[lattedatte]

Small price to pay since the left and far left control most of the news on TV

you have fox, insp and fx.

 

[notredomer23]

Lattedatte are you really allen colmes?

 

[stonebreakerwasgod]

Here is a poll taken from about 5,000 Iraqis in Baghdad.
1) Only 27% of Iraqis believe there is actually a civil war occuring.
2) By 2 to 1, they think that military operations will disarm the militias in the near future.
3) The majority of Iraqis believe that life and security will improve even after the US
leaves. (could mean they actually forsee a better future and not chaos continuing)

This, my friends, is what I call progress. While certain politicians badmouth the war effort, and try to find ways to exit (irregardless of the situation on the ground), things are improving. I find this poll extremely encouraging. A stable and democratic Iraq would be a huge development in the middle east. Perhaps even providing a model for moderate and liberal muslims to see how life can be. The fact remains, we can not afford to leave without stability in Iraq. Anyone not supporting that, is either not considering the entire ramifications, or has some political axe to grind.

Getting back to the UN, it makes me wonder why, after 16 resolutions, where are the UN troops supporting the peace effort? The reason why the UN is irrelevant, is that countries know that no matter how many resolutions are passed, there is no will to follow through. For those that wish to downsize the military, exactly WHO do u expect to act on behalf of the UN? When has China, Russia, France gotten involved in sufficent measure to make things work? Hell, China was fighting the UN in Korea! Wonderful. France and Russia were backstabbing the US when we were attempting to enforce UN resolutions. It certainly is a great forum for countries to talk about solving issues, the problem is that nothing of CONSEQUENCE gets solved.

 

[lattedatte]

Lattedatte are you really allen colmes?

Lol, good one. Would he have ever voted for Bush like I did last time? I doubt Marv or stoney could say that they voted for Clinton.

 

[stonebreakerwasgod]

I agree the dems are a party without an identity right now and certainly were the first to start negative politics(LBJ on Goldwater) so I will never dispute that they spew venom. My problem is whatever you and marv want to believe, your party is a party of contradiction right now. I reference post 8 again. That is why I'm struggling with whom to vote for but Guiliani will fix that.

The venom is on both sides though, even Hannity spews a lot lately.

I have no clue what Obama is, I will certainly be researching him.

BTW- shouldn't you and Marv be at church right now, lol...

Just so everyone knows that i'm just not flaming, here are some of the things I believe in(in no order):

1. Small gov't, both in dollars and influence on your personal life(see 3 below).
2. Low taxes on middle and low classes.
3. Seperation of church and state.
4. Secure borders.
5. Strong defense.
6. Balanced budgets.
7. Pro-choice for raped and molested.
8. Believe in equal right for gays, in fact the govt shouldn't even be involved(see 3 above).
9. Global warming is something we should do something about.
10. Stem cell reserch is a good thing.
11. I hate welfare.

just to name a few, you guys could label me whatever you want.

I can go along with 1, 6 , 7 , 11. There is hope for you LOL
Our party is not one of contradiction, what people don't realize is that the republican party is more tolerant of views than the democrats. There is room for prochoice candidates, not every one (far from it) belongs to the religious right. Go Jenna Jamison and Aurora Snow! There are different thoughts on education (vouchers) and immigration. I think most conservatives feel the republican politicians are very weak on that (as hannity says constantly in his criticism of bush). See how many republican senators differ in opinion. You do get criticism from Arlen Specter and those from the northeast.

In contrast, the dems run a very tight ship in regards to their platform. There is little room to leave the party line. Look at how Lieberman lost support from most of his party recently. He voted liberally on 95% of laws and votes taken, the one thing he did do was support the war, as he voted his conscience, BIG mistake! The far left went after him with a vengeance.

 

[notredomer23]

i could even agree with on number 10 as long as it is with adults and not unborns. Adult stem cells saved somebodys mom i know from Luechimia. unborn stem cells have never worked. I suggest you go to my other thread. its true story and has a funny title

 

[lattedatte]

I can go along with 1, 6 , 7 , 11. There is hope for you LOL
Our party is not one of contradiction, what people don't realize is that the republican party is more tolerant of views than the democrats. There is room for prochoice candidates, not every one (far from it) belongs to the religious right. Go Jenna Jamison and Aurora Snow! There are different thoughts on education (vouchers) and immigration. I think most conservatives feel the republican politicians are very weak on that (as hannity says constantly in his criticism of bush). See how many republican senators differ in opinion. You do get criticism from Arlen Specter and those from the northeast.

In contrast, the dems run a very tight ship in regards to their platform. There is little room to leave the party line. Look at how Lieberman lost support from most of his party recently. He voted liberally on 95% of laws and votes taken, the one thing he did do was support the war, as he voted his conscience, BIG mistake! The far left went after him with a vengeance.

I think that is why my buddies recruit me so hard, I do have some strong conservative beliefs but some are very liberal. and i agree that there is a wider range on the right, I do like that. I think I'll stay in the middle/independent, its just more fun becuase I can make fun of 80-90% of us Americans.

I love Jenna and Aurora, so does my wife by the way. How hot is that?

By the way I just want to say I was an alter boy for 11 years, went to catholic school through 8th grade and a catholic college. I go to church every chance I get but with a little guy running around it is difficult. So I'm not an athiest.

 

[notredomer23]

Pheww for a second latte, i thought satans little helper hacked you

 

[lattedatte]

Pheww for a second latte, i thought satans little helper hacked you

 

[stonebreakerwasgod]

I think that is why my buddies recruit me so hard, I do have some strong conservative beliefs but some are very liberal. and i agree that there is a wider range on the right, I do like that. I think I'll stay in the middle/independent, its just more fun becuase I can make fun of 80-90% of us Americans.

I love Jenna and Aurora, so does my wife by the way. How hot is that?

By the way I just want to say I was an alter boy for 11 years, went to catholic school through 8th grade and a catholic college. I go to church every chance I get but with a little guy running around it is difficult. So I'm not an athiest.

Your wife likes Jenna and Aurora. THAT IS WAY F....G HOT!
lol
btw- they do have services on sat...

 

[notredomer23]

im going to my thread banana company asking for protection

 

[lattedatte]

btw- they do have services on sat...

are we talking about church or porn here?? i never thought I'd ask that question...

 

[marv81s]

my voting record is Perot (twice), and Bush twice.

I don't consider Foxnews a conservative netword per se, they are slightly tilted to the right, but most of their shows offer one person from each side of the arguement.

I don't go to church, and in case nobody knew, I am a fan of porn.

Most of my views are to the right, but nowhere near Ann Coulter level. Love Hannity, hate Colmes. I think Shepard Smith has the best evening news anchor on TV. My wife tolerates my porn collection, she doesn't really have a fav like your wife Latte, but neither do I.

 

[stonebreakerwasgod]

This could be one of the longest running threads ever, second only to Hot, Or Not.

I don't even have CNN, MSNBC on my favorite buttons, which is all I pretty much view. Those guys have credibility issues with not only me, but fairminded Americans. Thank God CNN doesn't have a monopoly anymore.

 

[IRISHDODGER]

That's an interesting list given all the contradictions in beliefs between those men. I would say they were all on the Right, but I would not be crazy enough to say they were all conservatives in the same vein.

Are you talking fiscally or socially? Or both?

 

[IRISHDODGER]

It's not lip service. The US uses the UN as a tool of it's foreign policy...we always have. They allow us to project power into regions where we might not be able to.

Bolton is a perfect example. He spoke from his true beliefs & what he thought was just...& the truth hurt. He was excoriated by the UN, the press & the liberals

 

[IRISHDODGER]

LOL i listen to lots of people. Democrats listen to Rush and Hannity because he offers even them a voice to air differing views. Also, and you may not believe it, I have never caught either one of them in a lie. While their views may not always be liked, they have credibility with their audience, which is why they are so popular. Air America folded because people tire of straight bashing and misrepresentation. You would be surprised that most conservatives feel the same way about most issues. It is not about echooing what they say, its that they voice what we feel.
Ann Coulter is entertaining, but extreme. She does not represent the majority of conservatives on all topics.

Ann's got great legs, though! LOL

Laura Ingraham ain't too shabby either.

 

[IRISHDODGER]

Lol, good one. Would he have ever voted for Bush like I did last time? I doubt Marv or stoney could say that they voted for Clinton.

But the majority of the people didn't vote for Clinton either time. Perot took votes away from both. Some say it was equal from both parties but there's no way to honestly say that Clinton would have had a majority were it not for Perot. That would mean every registered voter would have to be asked who they'd vote for if Bush & Clinton were only choices. Some, I predict, wouldn't vote at all & others would/could cross party lines depending on their social &/or fiscal views.

 

[stonebreakerwasgod]

If moderates would read 'Godless' by Coulter, they would have a great understanding about where liberals are coming from. It is a good read. The chapters about evolution runs a little long toward the end, tho..

 

[notredomer23]

Woah this thread is going to pass hot or not soon

 

[notredomer23]

in fact i just checked 5 more posts and there tied

 

[lattedatte]

But the majority of the people didn't vote for Clinton either time. Perot took votes away from both. Some say it was equal from both parties but there's no way to honestly say that Clinton would have had a majority were it not for Perot. That would mean every registered voter would have to be asked who they'd vote for if Bush & Clinton were only choices. Some, I predict, wouldn't vote at all & others would/could cross party lines depending on their social &/or fiscal views.

i'll say the same thing to you that say gore won the 2000 election, let it go.

 

[lattedatte]

If moderates would read 'Godless' by Coulter, they would have a great understanding about where liberals are coming from. It is a good read. The chapters about evolution runs a little long toward the end, tho..

will never read anything that c__t writes. She is on the same page as Ted Kennedy for me, it is entitled "What is wrong with Politics".