ND Women's BB '17 -'18 Season
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Ogunbowale has yet to see a shot she doesn't like. Unfortunately for the rest of the team she hasn't been close to making anything.
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Pretty bad collapse in the 4th quarter. Terrible shots from just about everyone. Not having a point guard in the game for the majority of the quarter really hurts. UCONN's best player goes out and the team goes on 21-5 run mostly on out hustling the Irish.
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Typical from our girls against uconn play good and collapse
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I watch a lot of women's basketball and I fully agree with this. They are always so bad
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NP...........4th quarter collapse was a disappointment, but not the end of the world. The ladies noe know they can play with anyone. Just need to supply effort all game long.
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I feel like that's the first time in 5 years that not only could we hang with UCONN, but we were the better team. In the watching this team, I have to imagine this is the most athletic team Coach has had. They are fast and they play fast most of the game. Excites for the rest of the season.
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Small observations/thoughts:
A). We were playing them in front of a packed house in their place;
B). Lobo said that this was not only very hard but that ND had essentially an entirely road schedule so far which would cause exhaustion. She said she was amazed that ND could keep up the intensity for as long as we did;
C). We played with these people for three+ quarters (for the most part looking better than them) until the home rested team pulled (a little) away;
D). Kat is not yet healthy. It really hurts her mobility, but she is warrioring it out. This is one of several problems with our poor off-ball help-side defense;
E). Jackie couldn't get into the offensive side of the game --- some of that was being assigned toughest opponent on defense, and some of that was that she might not have fouled on ANY of the four fouls called, causing her to be on the bench too much;
F). Koko played a surprisingly good game. Still, her lack of any speed is a problem; this includes set-up defense and the need to help out;
G). Thank The Lord for Marina busting out. Without that we lose by thirty; ... and Tough Girl Jessica;
H). Arike: Good Grief Lady --- play basketball not streetball. Sadly we are so depleted that Muffet can't exercise too much in game discipline, especially if Jackie (or anyone) is in foul trouble. Arike's weird wondrous ability to get hard shots to (occasionally) go in is ... what? ... hopeful? ... nice if the clock's running down? ... destructive of team organization on offense? (we only ran oldstyle Notre Dame offense about one of every five times down the floor --- 1).point guard with four foul line extended, or 2).Kat with the ball distributing from high/low post set-up --- and I do NOT believe that this is what Muffet wanted because we came out of every time out in one our two "traditional" formations. I believe that this is largely the Arike Factor. --- plus Lili for some unknown reason seems not quite to get it as a true point guard.)
Connecticut is real good still, but don't have anyone who will just dominate you and not let you have a real chance. We need to moderate our views due to one of their AAs getting in Auriemma's doghouse and sitting all second half, and the other big, Samuelson, being fragile. The #$%^ point guard is disgustingly REALLY good, and Nurse is the underrated leader. It's still going to be hard to beat them. Maybe A'ja Wilson can just dominate them and foul them out (they are strangely NOT DEEP this year.)
We are on the other hand REALLY fragile. Marina might be getting her offensive mojo back, and Jackie will be all the refs allow her to be. Jessica is wonderful, but she isn't fast, and needs to get the help-side defense thing downpat --- but she's a baller and will get it. Lili seems in a similar not-quite-there mode, but not just on the helpside defense but as to running the offense. Arike has regressed to her wildwoman persona (for at least half of her playing minutes.) Kat is wonderful oldstyle ND Kat, but we really need to get her healthy. I fear that she will not, because the injury needs rest and Muffet has no one else to play. That's six players --- one hurt, two trying to get team defense figured out, one who never did (Arike is just terrible at this), Marina having to play out of position at point guard 50% of the time --- and we still are beating almost everybody. Half-full/ half-empty.
Muffet, you have a tough job this year.
A). We were playing them in front of a packed house in their place;
B). Lobo said that this was not only very hard but that ND had essentially an entirely road schedule so far which would cause exhaustion. She said she was amazed that ND could keep up the intensity for as long as we did;
C). We played with these people for three+ quarters (for the most part looking better than them) until the home rested team pulled (a little) away;
D). Kat is not yet healthy. It really hurts her mobility, but she is warrioring it out. This is one of several problems with our poor off-ball help-side defense;
E). Jackie couldn't get into the offensive side of the game --- some of that was being assigned toughest opponent on defense, and some of that was that she might not have fouled on ANY of the four fouls called, causing her to be on the bench too much;
F). Koko played a surprisingly good game. Still, her lack of any speed is a problem; this includes set-up defense and the need to help out;
G). Thank The Lord for Marina busting out. Without that we lose by thirty; ... and Tough Girl Jessica;
H). Arike: Good Grief Lady --- play basketball not streetball. Sadly we are so depleted that Muffet can't exercise too much in game discipline, especially if Jackie (or anyone) is in foul trouble. Arike's weird wondrous ability to get hard shots to (occasionally) go in is ... what? ... hopeful? ... nice if the clock's running down? ... destructive of team organization on offense? (we only ran oldstyle Notre Dame offense about one of every five times down the floor --- 1).point guard with four foul line extended, or 2).Kat with the ball distributing from high/low post set-up --- and I do NOT believe that this is what Muffet wanted because we came out of every time out in one our two "traditional" formations. I believe that this is largely the Arike Factor. --- plus Lili for some unknown reason seems not quite to get it as a true point guard.)
Connecticut is real good still, but don't have anyone who will just dominate you and not let you have a real chance. We need to moderate our views due to one of their AAs getting in Auriemma's doghouse and sitting all second half, and the other big, Samuelson, being fragile. The #$%^ point guard is disgustingly REALLY good, and Nurse is the underrated leader. It's still going to be hard to beat them. Maybe A'ja Wilson can just dominate them and foul them out (they are strangely NOT DEEP this year.)
We are on the other hand REALLY fragile. Marina might be getting her offensive mojo back, and Jackie will be all the refs allow her to be. Jessica is wonderful, but she isn't fast, and needs to get the help-side defense thing downpat --- but she's a baller and will get it. Lili seems in a similar not-quite-there mode, but not just on the helpside defense but as to running the offense. Arike has regressed to her wildwoman persona (for at least half of her playing minutes.) Kat is wonderful oldstyle ND Kat, but we really need to get her healthy. I fear that she will not, because the injury needs rest and Muffet has no one else to play. That's six players --- one hurt, two trying to get team defense figured out, one who never did (Arike is just terrible at this), Marina having to play out of position at point guard 50% of the time --- and we still are beating almost everybody. Half-full/ half-empty.
Muffet, you have a tough job this year.
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Others receiving votes: Depaul 35, Iowa 35, New Mex 19, CAL 18, GT 15, Marq 8, USC 6, VT 5, Miss 4, OkSt 3, Rice 3, S. Dakota St 2, Troy 1, ASU 1, Chattanooga 1
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RK TEAM RECORD PTS
1 Conn (32) 7-0 800
2 Notr Dame 7-1 721
3 Mississi St 8-0 711
4 Texas 7-0 703
5 Louisville 8-0 697
6 South Car 8-1 658
7 UCLA 7-1 604
8 Baylor 7-1 580
9 Oregon 7-1 506
10 Florida St 8-0 487
11 West Virg 7-0 466
12 Ohio State 8-2 439
13 Tennessee 8-0 427
14 Duke 6-2 342
14 Maryland 7-2 342
16 South Flor 7-1 323
17 Missouri 7-1 268
18 Stanford 5-4 265
19 Oregon St 5-2 224
20 Villanova 7-0 148
21 Michigan 6-2 128
22 Texa A&M 6-2 125
23 Kentucky 7-1 112
24 Syracuse 8-0 90
25 Green Bay 6-1 78Others receiving votes: Depaul 35, Iowa 35, New Mex 19, CAL 18, GT 15, Marq 8, USC 6, VT 5, Miss 4, OkSt 3, Rice 3, S. Dakota St 2, Troy 1, ASU 1, Chattanooga 1
Week 5 AP ND #3
Week 5 AP ND #3
AP Top 25
Others receiving votes: ASU 41, New Mex 26, Iowa 26, Marq 13, Syr 12, OKSt 8, Depaul 7, USC 7, OU 6, S. Dakota St 4
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RK TEAM RECORD PTS
1 Conn (32) 7-0 800
2 Texas 7-0 749
3 Notr Dame 7-1 717
4 Louisville 8-0 710
5 South Car 8-1 660
6 Mississi St 8-0 632
7 UCLA 7-1 622
8 Baylor 7-1 606
9 Oregon 7-1 506
10 West Virg 7-0 482
11 Tennessee 8-0 461
12 Ohio State 8-2 447
13 Florida St 8-0 418
14 Duke 6-2 390
15 Maryland 7-2 353
16 South Flor 7-1 284
17 Missouri 7-1 247
18 Stanford 5-4 220
19 Oregon St 5-2 198
20 Kentucky 7-1 170
21 Texa A&M 6-2 168
22 Villanova 7-0 131
23 Green Bay 6-1 96
24 Michigan 5-2 93
25 California 5-2 90Tonight 7 pm ET MSU @ ND
Tonight 7 pm ET MSU @ ND
Game 9: #3/2 Notre Dame (7-1) vs Michigan State (5-2)
When: Wednesday, Dec. 6 | 7:00 pm ET
Where: Notre Dame, Ind. | Purcell Pavilion (9,149)
Watch: ACC Network Extra
Listen: PULSE FM 96.9 / 92.1 | Bob Nagle (PxP)
Notre Dame returns to Purcell Pavilion after 25 days away
Tonight 7 pm ET MSU @ ND
Game 9: #3/2 Notre Dame (7-1) vs Michigan State (5-2)
When: Wednesday, Dec. 6 | 7:00 pm ET
Where: Notre Dame, Ind. | Purcell Pavilion (9,149)
Watch: ACC Network Extra
Listen: PULSE FM 96.9 / 92.1 | Bob Nagle (PxP)
Notre Dame returns to Purcell Pavilion after 25 days away
End of 1, ND 23 MSU 9
End of 1, ND 23 MSU 9
Matchup MSU ND
FG Made-Attempted 4-18 8-15
Field Goal % 22.2 53.3
3PT Made-Attempted 1-1 1-3
Three Point % 100.0 33.3
FT Made-Attempted 0-0 6-6
Free Throw % 0.0 100.0
Total Rebounds 11 10
Offensive Rebounds 6 2
Defensive Rebounds 5 8
Team Rebounds 0 0
Assists 4 5
Steals 2 3
Blocks 2 0
Turnovers 7 3
Team Turnovers 0 0
Total Turnovers 7 3
Personal Fouls 3 1
Technical Fouls 0 0
Flagrant Fouls 0 0
End of 1, ND 23 MSU 9
Matchup MSU ND
FG Made-Attempted 4-18 8-15
Field Goal % 22.2 53.3
3PT Made-Attempted 1-1 1-3
Three Point % 100.0 33.3
FT Made-Attempted 0-0 6-6
Free Throw % 0.0 100.0
Total Rebounds 11 10
Offensive Rebounds 6 2
Defensive Rebounds 5 8
Team Rebounds 0 0
Assists 4 5
Steals 2 3
Blocks 2 0
Turnovers 7 3
Team Turnovers 0 0
Total Turnovers 7 3
Personal Fouls 3 1
Technical Fouls 0 0
Flagrant Fouls 0 0
Matchup MSU ND
FG Made-Attempted 6-32 16-25
Field Goal % 18.8 64.0
3PT Made-Attempted 2-5 3-5
Three Point % 40.0 60.0
FT Made-Attempted 2-3 12-16
Free Throw % 66.7 75.0
Total Rebounds 15 22
Offensive Rebounds 6 3
Defensive Rebounds 9 19
Team Rebounds 0 0
Assists 5 10
Steals 2 4
Blocks 2 0
Turnovers 11 8
Team Turnovers 0 0
Total Turnovers 11 8
Personal Fouls 10 3
Technical Fouls 0 0
Flagrant Fouls 0 0
FG Made-Attempted 6-32 16-25
Field Goal % 18.8 64.0
3PT Made-Attempted 2-5 3-5
Three Point % 40.0 60.0
FT Made-Attempted 2-3 12-16
Free Throw % 66.7 75.0
Total Rebounds 15 22
Offensive Rebounds 6 3
Defensive Rebounds 9 19
Team Rebounds 0 0
Assists 5 10
Steals 2 4
Blocks 2 0
Turnovers 11 8
Team Turnovers 0 0
Total Turnovers 11 8
Personal Fouls 10 3
Technical Fouls 0 0
Flagrant Fouls 0 0
Old Man Mike
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I watched the second quarter. The one thing that stood out to me was that Arike was being VERY careful to play team ball offensively. I imagine that Coach gave her several earfuls after the Connecticut game.
End of 3, ND 63 MSU 40
End of 3, ND 63 MSU 40
MSU won the 3Q 24-16
Matchup MSU ND
FG Made-Attempted 17-53 21-40
Field Goal % 32.1 52.5
3PT Made-Attempted 4-12 4-9
Three Point % 33.3 44.4
FT Made-Attempted 2-3 17-22
Free Throw % 66.7 77.3
Total Rebounds 26 32
Offensive Rebounds 10 7
Defensive Rebounds 16 25
Team Rebounds 0 0
Assists 14 12
Steals 6 5
Blocks 3 1
Turnovers 15 15
Team Turnovers 0 0
Total Turnovers 15 15
Personal Fouls 16 5
Technical Fouls 0 0
Flagrant Fouls 0 0
End of 3, ND 63 MSU 40
MSU won the 3Q 24-16
Matchup MSU ND
FG Made-Attempted 17-53 21-40
Field Goal % 32.1 52.5
3PT Made-Attempted 4-12 4-9
Three Point % 33.3 44.4
FT Made-Attempted 2-3 17-22
Free Throw % 66.7 77.3
Total Rebounds 26 32
Offensive Rebounds 10 7
Defensive Rebounds 16 25
Team Rebounds 0 0
Assists 14 12
Steals 6 5
Blocks 3 1
Turnovers 15 15
Team Turnovers 0 0
Total Turnovers 15 15
Personal Fouls 16 5
Technical Fouls 0 0
Flagrant Fouls 0 0
FINAL ND 90 MSU 59
FINAL ND 90 MSU 59
Matchup MSU ND
FG Made-Attempted 20-65 29-56
Field Goal % 30.8 51.8
3PT Made-Attempted 7-20 4-12
Three Point % 35.0 33.3
FT Made-Attempted 12-16 28-36
Free Throw % 75.0 77.8
Total Rebounds 34 44
Offensive Rebounds 11 11
Defensive Rebounds 23 33
Assists 17 16
Steals 8 7
Blocks 3 2
Total Turnovers 19 18
Personal Fouls 25 13
Technical Fouls 0 0
FINAL ND 90 MSU 59
Matchup MSU ND
FG Made-Attempted 20-65 29-56
Field Goal % 30.8 51.8
3PT Made-Attempted 7-20 4-12
Three Point % 35.0 33.3
FT Made-Attempted 12-16 28-36
Free Throw % 75.0 77.8
Total Rebounds 34 44
Offensive Rebounds 11 11
Defensive Rebounds 23 33
Assists 17 16
Steals 8 7
Blocks 3 2
Total Turnovers 19 18
Personal Fouls 25 13
Technical Fouls 0 0