ND vs. Purdue

[Kak7304]

I rag on Purdue more than any other team because it was the worst game I have ever been to and my wife has not been to another game since our 2003 visit to Ross-*** Stadium. ND got beat but it was the Purdouche fans that made it miserable. We were both wearing our ND colors and two jerks throughout the game called me and my wife out and names that were disgusting to say the least. We went and got security and only one Purdue person (an elderly gentleman) backed us up to what those jerks were doing. After we got security, almost the whole section turned on us and 8 or 9 other ND fans around us. One guy took a hot dog (guess how) and was telling my wife and the other ND fan women to come have a bite. Finally half-way through the third quarter (some may have remembered the tv cameras focusing on that section) security came back and asked us plus the other ND fans to leave because they felt we were causing the uproar among the fans. I have never told this story because it was shown on TV and didn't want to expose the situation. So I'm sorry if I offend any ND fans here but I will continue to express my hate for Purdick fans for the rest of my football fandom life.


Diz

That's awful but definitely believable. I saw an elderly couple sporting ND gear spit on, had numerous things yelled at me, and had many guys get confrontational. The only thing that saved me from being attacked by a group (on several different occasions) was being with all of my friends that were Purdue students at the time. My only offense was wearing ND stuff while walking around with my Purdue friends and never said a word to the guys trying to fight me.

 

[ulukinatme]

I rag on Purdue more than any other team because it was the worst game I have ever been to and my wife has not been to another game since our 2003 visit to Ross-*** Stadium. ND got beat but it was the Purdouche fans that made it miserable. We were both wearing our ND colors and two jerks throughout the game called me and my wife out and names that were disgusting to say the least. We went and got security and only one Purdue person (an elderly gentleman) backed us up to what those jerks were doing. After we got security, almost the whole section turned on us and 8 or 9 other ND fans around us. One guy took a hot dog (guess how) and was telling my wife and the other ND fan women to come have a bite. Finally half-way through the third quarter (some may have remembered the tv cameras focusing on that section) security came back and asked us plus the other ND fans to leave because they felt we were causing the uproar among the fans. I have never told this story because it was shown on TV and didn't want to expose the situation. So I'm sorry if I offend any ND fans here but I will continue to express my hate for Purdick fans for the rest of my football fandom life.


Diz

You think thats bad, try a Miami away game! The last time we played Miami in FL, my family saw ND fans get spat on and there were reports from that game of ND fans getting urinated on, although they didn't witness that. Talk about no class and a complete lack of humanity though.

 

[TheRealLynch51]

You think thats bad, try a Miami away game! The last time we played Miami in FL, my family saw ND fans get spat on and there were reports from that game of ND fans getting urinated on, although they didn't witness that. Talk about no class and a complete lack of humanity though.

My dad was at that game. It wasn't near as bad for his as I heard it was for other ND fans, but he still got called names worse than any away venue he's been to.

 

[ulukinatme]

My dad was at that game. It wasn't near as bad for his as I heard it was for other ND fans, but he still got called names worse than any away venue he's been to.

Ugh, that sucks. When I hear stories like this, and the other encounter you had at Purdue, it makes me not want to try an away game. I've been to three or more dozen home games now and I'd really like to see a few other campuses and cheer the team on once for fun. Some stadiums are just overly hostile though, and I'd rather not deal with that kind of behavior. My family did speak very highly of Nebraska though. They went to the away game 10 years ago. They said the atmosphere was great, and the fans were some of the nicest hosts they've ever seen. I saw the same attitude when they visited South Bend, would love to play them again.

 

[Dizzyphil]

You know, I retracted the post because I am one that believes in moving on. I have put it behind me but..... my wife will not go to another ND game unless it is at home and South Bend ain't around the corner from Nashville. (plus with the oldest in college in Denver and one more starting in 4 years...I'm broke).

I try to never say I 'hate' anyone or thing, but I do hate how some treat other fans. The Dodgers and San Diego incidents are the beginning in my opinion and they may get worse elsewhere.

Anywho... GO IRISH, beat 'em hard boys!!!!!!


Diz

 

[FightingIrishLover7]

As a Purdue student...

I don't find too many problems at all with fans. I wear ND gear about 33% of the days here. Never had more than a little "ND sucks" jeer.

Also, there are a lot of ND fans here, including myself.

And don't even begin to act like Purdue isn't a good school education wise. We might be a public state school.

But, our Engineering, Pharmacy, Agriculture, and several other programs are phenomenal.

I'm a huge Notre Dame football fan, but quit acting like Purdue's education is the bottom of the barrel. We have a lot to offer.

Sorry for bickering, but I am pretty offended.

 

[NDFANnSouthWest]

Purdue is an excellent school. Where I work there are alot of Purdue Engineers.

 

[TheRealLynch51]

As a Purdue student...

I don't find too many problems at all with fans. I wear ND gear about 33% of the days here. Never had more than a little "ND sucks" jeer.

Also, there are a lot of ND fans here, including myself.

And don't even begin to act like Purdue isn't a good school education wise. We might be a public state school.

But, our Engineering, Pharmacy, Agriculture, and several other programs are phenomenal.

I'm a huge Notre Dame football fan, but quit acting like Purdue's education is the bottom of the barrel. We have a lot to offer.

Sorry for bickering, but I am pretty offended.

I don't have a problem with the school. Being from Southern Indiana, I know it's a good school. But, I do have a problem with the fans. They aren't near as bad as IU basketball fans, but they say the same kind of things that they do, which gets me fired up personally.

 

[IrishSteelhead]

I don't have a problem with the school. Being from Southern Indiana, I know it's a good school. But, I do have a problem with the fans. They aren't near as bad as IU basketball fans, but they say the same kind of things that they do, which gets me fired up personally.

That can be said about any fanbase really. If you think Purdue fans are bad, I dare you to travel to East Lansing, Happy Valley, or Columbus.

 

[HereComeTheIrish]

Ugh, that sucks. When I hear stories like this, and the other encounter you had at Purdue, it makes me not want to try an away game. I've been to three or more dozen home games now and I'd really like to see a few other campuses and cheer the team on once for fun. Some stadiums are just overly hostile though, and I'd rather not deal with that kind of behavior. My family did speak very highly of Nebraska though. They went to the away game 10 years ago. They said the atmosphere was great, and the fans were some of the nicest hosts they've ever seen. I saw the same attitude when they visited South Bend, would love to play them again.

Been to Tennessee (awesome fans... Very gracious), Jacksonville (For Gator Bowl...NC State fans are amongst the most obnoxious I've ever enountered. Didn't help that they sold beer in the stadium. The kid in front of us had a stack of 17, 20 ounce cups stacked up, pissed in the stands twice and tried fighting a man who was probably in is 70's wearing ND gear) amongst others, but there is nothing worse, and I mean nothing worse than Buckeye fan with their inferiority complex and it's us and the world mentality. First off, they play in a crap conference with perhaps 3 "good" teams and they have the gaul to say that their schedule is killer, which of course is reason to schedule 3 MAC teams/name your favorite Michigan Directional school and then have to run the gauntlet of Northwestern, Indiana, Minnesota, Purdue (yeah, I'm going there) and Illinois.

 

[Kak7304]

As a Purdue student...

I don't find too many problems at all with fans. I wear ND gear about 33% of the days here. Never had more than a little "ND sucks" jeer.

Also, there are a lot of ND fans here, including myself.

And don't even begin to act like Purdue isn't a good school education wise. We might be a public state school.

But, our Engineering, Pharmacy, Agriculture, and several other programs are phenomenal.

I'm a huge Notre Dame football fan, but quit acting like Purdue's education is the bottom of the barrel. We have a lot to offer.

Sorry for bickering, but I am pretty offended.

I went to a bar in Purdue w/ some friends in the spring and had a ND hat on. The ENTIRE bar started a F*** the Irish chant. I have faced nothing but hostility every time I've been on that campus, including the offseason. I've always minded my own business and never said anything to instigate anything, yet I've had something like this happen every single time I've been on that campus with ND gear on (at least 7-8 times).

 

[The Gold Helmets]

I said one line about Purdue academics and that was the Subway line, but again I'm not trying to knock Purdue academics. It is a corny line that I didn't expect people to take serious.

I went to the 07 game and had some fun with Purdue fans in the tailgate lots. When we got in the stadium it was a little different story. We sat literally across an isle from the Purdue student section and got quite a few insults but it was no big deal.

I have some friends who are Purdue grads and are good people, but I have ran across many PU fans who absolutely hate Notre Dame and are hostile about it, and that hate brings out the smart@ss in me more times than not.

I just wrote a more level headed, but hurried Purdue Preview Hope everyone enjoys the game Saturday night, even Purdue fans!

Wow, Pitt just put a slober-knocker on USF....

 

[FightingIrishLover7]

I went to a bar in Purdue w/ some friends in the spring and had a ND hat on. The ENTIRE bar started a F*** the Irish chant. I have faced nothing but hostility every time I've been on that campus, including the offseason. I've always minded my own business and never said anything to instigate anything, yet I've had something like this happen every single time I've been on that campus with ND gear on (at least 7-8 times).

Drunk people always skew the general consensus.

Wearing an ND hat during an ND/PU game will still bring you less hatred then wearing an IU hat during say an ND/PU game.

Purdue fans hateee IU.

But, thats partially because ND don't play Purdue in basketball.

I'm also glad to see you guys do acknowledge Purdue with high academic regards.

 

[Whiskeyjack]

Brian Fremeau's Week 5 FEI picks are out:

98.5% PWE :: Notre Dame 38, PURDUE 3

You read that correctly. 1,5% chance we lose, and we're likely to curb stomp them.

 

[HereComeTheIrish]

Brian Fremeau's Week 5 FEI picks are out:



You read that correctly. 1,5% chance we lose, and we're likely to curb stomp them.

So you're telling me there's a chance.....

 

[IrishSteelhead]

Drunk people always skew the general consensus.

Wearing an ND hat during an ND/PU game will still bring you less hatred then wearing an IU hat during say an ND/PU game.

Purdue fans hateee IU.

But, thats partially because ND don't play Purdue in basketball.

I'm also glad to see you guys do acknowledge Purdue with high academic regards.

I don't doubt any of these stories, but in all my time at Purdue, I never had an incident where things got nasty at a game or bar for wearing Irish swag, and trust me, I LIVED at Stacks and Harry's for all four years.

 

[theclassickiller]

By all means, do whatever you feel necessary. I was merely suggesting that we stop insulting Purdue as an academic institution, and the intelligence of its students/ graduates on this message board, since we have some good posters here who are either current students or alumni.

Thanks Whiskey. I don't care either way about Purdue football (I've followed them since I was young because they are the "other" Indiana team who plays decent football, but feel indifferent) but I love Purdue basketball. And I can tell you that as far as academics go, in my field in particular a Purdue engineering degree is like an MIT engineering degree, so bashing the academics is unfair and inaccurate to say the least. And comparing ND to Purdue as far as academics go is a poor argument as they have very few key programs in common. Both are great academic schools. The difference is one is college football, and the other partakes in it.

 

[theclassickiller]

As a Purdue student...

I don't find too many problems at all with fans. I wear ND gear about 33% of the days here. Never had more than a little "ND sucks" jeer.

Also, there are a lot of ND fans here, including myself.

And don't even begin to act like Purdue isn't a good school education wise. We might be a public state school.

But, our Engineering, Pharmacy, Agriculture, and several other programs are phenomenal.

I'm a huge Notre Dame football fan, but quit acting like Purdue's education is the bottom of the barrel. We have a lot to offer.

Sorry for bickering, but I am pretty offended.

I haven't experienced any problems either, and believe me, I've been in position to. In my four years at Purdue I wore my Irish gear proudly and can't remember ever being heckled about it. And there are more than a lot of ND fans at Purdue. ND may have a huge following, but 99% of them never went to ND. Purdue, being an in-state public university that offers many more majors than a private school sustain, has a huge ND following. And as long as it wasn't Purdue-ND week, the guys in my dorm freshman year actually cheered for Notre Dame.

I have heard of incidents at Ross-Ade (and some are appalling), but I have never been treated poorly in my time spent in the student section WEARING ND GEAR. Sure, I got called out and students would poke fun at it, but it was never more than that. So don't judge a fan-base by the fans that sit on the visitor's side. They probably got free tickets anyway and couldn't have cared less who won as long as they got smashed.

 

[johnnyoooo]

Confusing Defensive Schemes

Confusing Defensive Schemes

Must remind myself that Pitt Coach Graham almost beat us by using defensive schemes that confused Rees. No doubt the word is out Rees does not know all the diffferent defensive scheme reads yet so no doubt Purdue will look to confuse him also with their defensive schemes. Also the Michigan State coaches told their recievers whenever Gray covers you in single coverage take him long on go routes. So I would expect Purdue to try and exploit Gray. Remind those critical of Rees even with the best pro quarterback it is a long learning process to read defensive schemes and even then teams still come up with defensive schemes that confuses even the best quarterbacks.

 

[Whiskeyjack]

From the Purdue student paper: 'Rudy' farce represents overblown Notre Dame Legacy.

Note the sly attempt to connect us with IU fans.

 

[Rocket89]

From the Purdue student paper: 'Rudy' farce represents overblown Notre Dame Legacy.

Note the sly attempt to connect us with IU fans.

hwhateve

Oh Purdue student...you are so helpless.

There was no “Ru-dy” chant in the stands. Nobody threw jerseys on head coach Dan Devine’s desk while protesting for Ruettiger to dress. Although the movie portrays Ruettiger to be a hero as he was carried off the field, Montana confirmed Ruettiger was carried off the field, but it was done as a joke more than anything.

OMG, way to expose the myth!!! No one ever knew this before and how am I ever going to watch the movie again knowing this hard truth is out there?!?!??

Yes, he did get to play the final two snaps of his senior season. Yes, he did get a sack against Georgia Tech. Yes, he did get carried off the field, but as Montana stated in the interview, Ruettiger worked hard, but not any harder than anybody else on the team at the time.

Ummm yeah, I think this is kind of important. A walk-on getting a sack is a little more important than players putting jerseys on a coach's desk or saying "Yeah but, but but....Rudy didn't work harder than anyone else...what a fraud!!

Most Notre Dame fans, the same fans who haven’t stepped foot in South Bend, don’t know the first four words to the Alma Mater “Notre Dame, Our Mother”, and who wear reversible Notre Dame football, IU basketball jackets, think that because Notre Dame won a national championship in 1988, the team is still relevant in the college football landscape.

Typical myopic Purdue fan viewpoint. He should just say, "I don't understand the Notre Dame fan base and my whole world view is based on me living in Indiana. The concept of a Subway Alumni makes no sense to me and therefore I must dismiss it."

If Purdue’s 1932 championship is irrelevant then why do Notre Dame’s three football championships count? Of their 11 championships, the Irish have won only four bowl games to earn the championship; the other seven were voted on by a committee and split with other teams.

Wait we're talking about basketball championships now? Oh, that's right...the writer can't really separate ND football fans with IU basketball fans so it's trying to make some sort of point to both.

Is one title 80 years ago irrelevant? Should Harvard football fans be saying these things to Notre Dame fans when their titles came that long ago. You tell me.

What doesn’t make sense is why Rudy put so much time and effort into something that he was awful at. If he would have spent half his time and energy on anything else as he did on football, he could have become anything he wanted. Instead, he became just another story of the kid who wouldn’t quit and happened to get a movie made after himself.

Wait, I'm confused. Is Rudy a poor bum living on the street?

He achieved his goal of going to Notre Dame and playing on the football team and had a very popular movie made about the experience.

What doesn't make sense is why this writer would put so much time and effort into something that he was awful at.

Unless...someone plans on making a movie about his time in college?

 

[IrishSteelhead]

hwhateve

Oh Purdue student...you are so helpless.



OMG, way to expose the myth!!! No one ever knew this before and how am I ever going to watch the movie again knowing this hard truth is out there?!?!??



Ummm yeah, I think this is kind of important. A walk-on getting a sack is a little more important than players putting jerseys on a coach's desk or saying "Yeah but, but but....Rudy didn't work harder than anyone else...what a fraud!!



Typical myopic Purdue fan viewpoint. He should just say, "I don't understand the Notre Dame fan base and my whole world view is based on me living in Indiana. The concept of a Subway Alumni makes no sense to me and therefore I must dismiss it."



Wait we're talking about basketball championships now? Oh, that's right...the writer can't really separate ND football fans with IU basketball fans so it's trying to make some sort of point to both.

Is one title 80 years ago irrelevant? Should Harvard football fans be saying these things to Notre Dame fans when their titles came that long ago. You tell me.



Wait, I'm confused. Is Rudy a poor bum living on the street?

He achieved his goal of going to Notre Dame and playing on the football team and had a very popular movie made about the experience.

What doesn't make sense is why this writer would put so much time and effort into something that he was awful at.

Unless...someone plans on making a movie about his time in college?

Some of you guys can really dish it out, but the second someone else sends it your way, WATCH OUT!

 

[Rocket89]

Some of you guys can really dish it out, but the second someone else sends it your way, WATCH OUT!

Best believe.

Just callin' a spade a spade.

 

[theclassickiller]

From the Purdue student paper: 'Rudy' farce represents overblown Notre Dame Legacy.

Note the sly attempt to connect us with IU fans.

Don't put any stock into the garbage this newspapers spouts. The Exponent is a sorry excuse for a news publication. They only hire "students" who are so far left they can't even see the right side of the fence anymore and you have to wear skinny jeans and a scarf to even think about being an editor (ok that's stretching, but honestly it's pretty much like that). I have stories about this newspaper that are so ridiculous and juvenile it would blow your mind that a "professional" organization would do such things. I'm not going to be a snitch so the strories will stay with me and the other three guys who got fed up and founded the Purdue Review (which the Exponent immediately tried to shut down). The Exponent is a disgrace. They do not represent anything the school or it's students stand for and their papers are only good for sudokus. Which was an idea the Purdue Review actually came up with first.

Plus that campus (sadly being the only midwest campus to vote Republican in the 2004 election) needed a newspaper that leaned a little right to counter the non-stop trash talking and ten pages of opinion articles (which were played off as factual because there is zero accountability in that organization) in the Exponent. I am no longer affiliated with the Purdue Review and the paper has come a long way since then (it doesn't really resemble the original much anymore). But it's still going strong and that's something to be proud of considering what we were up against.

I'm sure it's obvious that I have a deep hatred for them, but trust me, it's for reasons that would make you hate them too.

So please don't think that anything written in the Exponent can be pinned on Purdue fans.

 

[meowmix]

Speaking of myopic, I always find if funny when opposing fans completely miss the point of Rudy. Obviously, the jerseys on Devine's desk and other parts are Hollywood's influence. However, it is fact that Rudy overcame numerous adversities and persevered until he overcame a learning disability and got to play for the Notre Dame Fighting Irish. It doesn't matter at all why Rudy was carried off of the field and it doesn't matter whether or not there was a "rudy" chant. What matters is that this is an inspirational movie that happens to be about ND. There are parts of "Hoosiers" that aren't factual - should that be held against it's message? I think not

 

[meowmix]

Also, there was a "Rudy" chant. When my friends and I took a tour of the ND Press Box, the head usher who was our guide told us about that game.

By the way, this is another classic example of hatred based on geography. Those who live near West Lafayette (or just somewhere in IN), hate Purdue. I live in Michigan and absolutely f*cking loathe scUM. However, I do not give half a $hit about Purdue. I recognize them as a historical rival and respect them but honestly don't care about them unless we lose. I'm sure this is the case for most fans in other states.

 

[ulukinatme]

Some of you guys can really dish it out, but the second someone else sends it your way, WATCH OUT!

I'd like to think I'm one of the more level headed fans. I've spent the last 6 years on BuckeyePlanet, and a lot of them will beat it into you that Notre Dame is pretty much the worst program in the country

I think the problem Notre Dame fans see with this article is that the message of Rudy is lost. Yeah, not all of the events that transpired in the movie actually occurred. Just like every other sports flick, it's "Based on a true story." Things get played up or altered a bit for the sake of telling a story. Ultimately, the message is that you can achieve anything you set your mind to. Daniel "Rudy" Ruettiger's dream was to play football at Notre Dame, and he achieved that goal despite being told numerous times that it wasn't possible. That message is lost.

I think theres also a few inaccurracies as well. The article states that most Notre Dame fans don't know the first four words of the Alma Mater. That may or may not be true, theres no way to really know this without polling, but ultimately I don't understand what that has to do with anything. I know the Alma Mater, despite the fact I've never attended classes at the university. On the other hand, I couldn't tell you what the Alma Mater, nor the Fight Song, was at either of the high schools I attended The article goes on to say that many fans will come to South Bend to see the game, while few will actually be from South Bend. Okay...whatever...and those fans will boast of tradition that is no longer relevant according to the writer. Thats the funny thing about tradition though, it never dies. Even if our team hasn't been "relevant" for some time, that doesn't discount past accomplishments. You can't negate previous success, that's yours to keep...well...unless you draw NCAA sanctions. Tradition doesn't mean your team will be any better or worse this year of course, but it can be inspiring and (For those that are still alive to remember) it can bring back memories of a better time.

There are a few other points the writer draws on that don't seem to jive with most Notre Dame fans I know. The IU basketball jacket analogy made no sense to me, for one. I couldn't care less about IU as a whole, and often I forget theres even more than 2 major football schools in Indiana as a result

In any case, I can step outside the box and see this from another view. While I can see that the author is clearly not writing from an unbiased perspective, his target market is Purdue so I wouldn't expect him to write the article any other way. If I was in his shoes, I probably would have penned it no different.

 

[HereComeTheIrish]

Also, there was a "Rudy" chant. When my friends and I took a tour of the ND Press Box, the head usher who was our guide told us about that game.

By the way, this is another classic example of hatred based on geography. Those who live near West Lafayette (or just somewhere in IN), hate Purdue. I live in Michigan and absolutely f*cking loathe scUM. However, I do not give half a $hit about Purdue. I recognize them as a historical rival and respect them but honestly don't care about them unless we lose. I'm sure this is the case for most fans in other states.

Pur-Who??????

 

[Rhode Irish]

I'll tell you on thing: players are not super-pumped about this bus ride to West Lafayette, per their twitters.

 

[meowmix]

I think the problem Notre Dame fans see with this article is that the message of Rudy is lost. Yeah, not all of the events that transpired in the movie actually occurred. Just like every other sports flick, it's "Based on a true story." Things get played up or altered a bit for the sake of telling a story. Ultimately, the message is that you can achieve anything you set your mind to. Daniel "Rudy" Ruettiger's dream was to play football at Notre Dame, and he achieved that goal despite being told numerous times that it wasn't possible. That message is lost.

I think theres also a few inaccurracies as well. The article states that most Notre Dame fans don't know the first four words of the Alma Mater. That may or may not be true, theres no way to really know this without polling, but ultimately I don't understand what that has to do with anything. I know the Alma Mater, despite the fact I've never attended classes at the university. On the other hand, I couldn't tell you what the Alma Mater, nor the Fight Song, was at either of the high schools I attended The article goes on to say that many fans will come to South Bend to see the game, while few will actually be from South Bend. Okay...whatever...and those fans will boast of tradition that is no longer relevant according to the writer. Thats the funny thing about tradition though, it never dies. Even if our team hasn't been "relevant" for some time, that doesn't discount past accomplishments. You can't negate previous success, that's yours to keep...well...unless you draw NCAA sanctions. Tradition doesn't mean your team will be any better or worse this year of course, but it can be inspiring and (For those that are still alive to remember) it can bring back memories of a better time.

Exactly. Like I said, blinded by their hate for ND, they totally miss the point of the movie. Also, while I was an undergrad, I don't know anybody who didn't know the words to the Alma Mater. What he may have been referencing is the first stanza of the fight song, which many people do not know. (Rally sons of Notre Dame, Sing her glory and sound her fame, etc.). And I don't understand how having fans who don't live in South Bend is a knock on ND. Regardless, I don't know if we should waste our time talking about this article. I'm sure the author isn't this stupid in real life and was just trying to drum up what little spirit they have. Besides, if they lose, which most of them won't care about anyway, they'll probably dominate ND in the BBall tourney haha. Btw, that tourney should be awesome. I think it's this year, but it's ND, Butler, IU, and Purdue.