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Irish8248

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No. Just pass more. Their pass defense is terrible, why run into their strength?
Because you need a run game to help support your pass game (vice versa is true too).. You may also need a run game to bleed clock and close out the game
 

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Because you need a run game to help support your pass game (vice versa is true too).. You may also need a run game to bleed clock and close out the game
At the end of the day, you just have to be able to move the ball consistently. Sometimes the other team is comprised in a way where that means passing it all night, sometimes it's the opposite. I'm a RTDB guy, but against Miami it just wasn't happening with enough consistency. When we needed a first down, after stopping them on 4th, we picked up one on the ground that allowed us to bleed the clock down to under a minute. That was huge.
 

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Gonna be a lot of ND fans in Parker's mentions all up in their feelings today
 

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At the end of the day, you just have to be able to move the ball consistently. Sometimes the other team is comprised in a way where that means passing it all night, sometimes it's the opposite. I'm a RTDB guy, but against Miami it just wasn't happening with enough consistency. When we needed a first down, after stopping them on 4th, we picked up one on the ground that allowed us to bleed the clock down to under a minute. That was huge.
The original question was how do we block him in the run game... But to your point, I don't disagree.

The problem with late in the game, when we have a 94% win probability at 12 mins left in the 3rd quarter - 1 incomplete pass stops the clock. Even if we don't put points on the board, bleeding clock steals possessions. 1 rush whether positive or negative keeps it running. Running with positive plays is ideal. Having Scott/Moten is going to make that difficult but having them living in the backfield is dangerous.

How do we run, block their strength, and stay attacking? A WHAM block, essentially a TE trap
 

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Keep that sling on. Sadly that is a slow recovery. Had it done on both shoulders. Pain should be gone at least.
Yes, I’m 4 weeks out. Just got out of sling, so the more aggressive PT starts today. If I’m gonna be around a lot of people, I’ll probably wear a sling so they know not to pat me on the shoulder or bump into me.
 

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44% versus 41% success rate advantage for Miami

The stats were obviously skewed by the 3Q but where ND won statistically:

Yards/Dropback: 7.98 vs 5.82
3rd Down Success Rate: 47% vs 36%
Stuff Rate: 23% vs 11%
Havoc Rate: 18% vs 6%
Middle 8 Success Rate: 58% vs 38%

TLDR those 2 yards ND runs were indeed not successful but Miami had far more negative plays and ND was better situationally
 

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I remember watching the Canes play Pittsburgh. IIRC, Pitt sacked Mensah 3 times in 1H to set up 3rd & longs. Mensah converted on all 3.
 

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Miami entered the game converting 55% of third downs. An unsustainably high number. But under the hood they now:

38% versus Wake, 36% versus Clemson and 42% versus ND

People nationally are gonna dismiss some jarring stats for Miami because of Toney, but offensively the OL issues will appear against other good teams.
 
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It is annoying how good Scott is considering that he was out of our backyard. I don't remember if he went to Miami before we got our NIL stuff in order or if he was never realistically coming here, but it's a shame.
IIRC correctly, Tim O'Malley said we offered him something like $150k and Miami was at $900k. Those numbers could be wrong but the general vibe is that we did not have a good understanding of the NIL market and/or were not prepared to compete in it at the time.
 

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It is annoying how good Scott is considering that he was out of our backyard. I don't remember if he went to Miami before we got our NIL stuff in order or if he was never realistically coming here, but it's a shame.

If it makes you feel better Lightfoot got his lunch eaten all night
 
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IIRC correctly, Tim O'Malley said we offered him something like $150k and Miami was at $900k. Those numbers could be wrong but the general vibe is that we did not have a good understanding of the NIL market and/or were not prepared to compete in it at the time.
These issues should be ironed out now so that is a positive.
 

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IIRC correctly, Tim O'Malley said we offered him something like $150k and Miami was at $900k. Those numbers could be wrong but the general vibe is that we did not have a good understanding of the NIL market and/or were not prepared to compete in it at the time.
We didn't understand NIL at all until the 2025 class, and didn't start paying anything close to "market rate" until the 2026 class.
 

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A few things to address and/or cleanup after riding this weekend's high:

  • Where was that team and effort all year? We all know that Notre Dame has "next level" players, until the Miami game, we just hadn't seen it. The effort and intensity was lacking all year, until Saturday. We need that level of play, intensity, and effort from here on out.
  • Do we know who was calling the defensive plays? Freeman or Ash? It looked like a whole different defense schematically.
  • I was overall pretty happy with the offense. Denbrock has got to be more consistent and conscious of what's going on, however. Those two back-to-back drives in the 3rd quarter were awful and really put the defense in a bind. They come out in the 3rd quarter, and we hold them to a 3 and out. Faison gets a great punt return and we've got a short field. We score in 3 plays taking a little over 1 minute off the clock. 24-3 ND. They come back and counter on a 11 play TD drive. 24-10. We then come out and go 3 and out. I don't think we even took 1 minute off the clock. They get the ball back and again answer on 6 plays. 24-17. We get the ball back and again, go 3 and out, taking 2 minutes off the clock. 24-17. Thankfully, next series, Talich makes that great interception which really changed the trajectory. Defense was sucking wind and we were clamming up...Denbrock has to be more conscious about the clock. Take time off of it...you're up 24-3 at one point, use the clock to your advantage ... it can be a tool or a weapon in a game. Commit to running the ball! Walton, I believe, only had 5 carries at that point. He could have afforded another 5-10 carries that game.
 
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