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This guy sucked anyways

Yeah, just dismantling our free press that protects us against government tyranny and keeps them honest and all you can say is "This guy sucked anyway.

You just want easy and that everyone that thinks like you to have their way in this country - Great, well wait until these "Fourth Estate" protections are gone and all your getting is MAGA propaganda and you'll have no f---ing clue how much you could be getting screwed by the admin.

And they'll be getting away with all kinds of shit and grift that likely will include pilfering our tax dollars.

But ok, he "sucked anyway."

Wake up brother...
 

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Yeah, just dismantling our free press that protects us against government tyranny and keeps them honest and all you can say is "This guy sucked anyway.

You just want easy and that everyone that thinks like you to have their way in this country - Great, well wait until these "Fourth Estate" protections are gone and all your getting is MAGA propaganda and you'll have no f---ing clue how much you could be getting screwed by the admin.

And they'll be getting away with all kinds of shit and grift that likely will include pilfering our tax dollars.

But ok, he "sucked anyway."

Wake up brother...
Can't wait until they buy CNN.
 

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LOL at thinking 60 minutes was protecting us from anything. DNC propagandists at best. There is a reason everyone knows who Nick Shirley is while the only 60 minutes clips I have seen for two decades are from Trump calling them hacks to their faces or Kamala's chopped piece.

This guy was the last good thing they had. https://x.com/JohnStossel
Still makes better pieces than 60 Minutes has in a generation.
 

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Love Stossel.
You just want easy and that everyone that thinks like you to have their way in this country - Great, well wait until these "Fourth Estate" protections are gone and all your getting is MAGA propaganda and you'll have no f---ing clue how much you could be getting screwed by the admin.
The epitome of living like an Ostrich. Proven yet once again, you search to confirm rather than to learn.
 

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Yeah, just dismantling our free press that protects us against government tyranny and keeps them honest and all you can say is "This guy sucked anyway.

You just want easy and that everyone that thinks like you to have their way in this country - Great, well wait until these "Fourth Estate" protections are gone and all your getting is MAGA propaganda and you'll have no f---ing clue how much you could be getting screwed by the admin.

And they'll be getting away with all kinds of shit and grift that likely will include pilfering our tax dollars.

But ok, he "sucked anyway."

Wake up brother...
Yes, wake up....

 

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Cry me a f---ing river, media is biased all the way around and don't pretend it's not.

Creating a network of state-controlled authoritarian propaganda channels is certainly not the answer.

But hey, if you want to keep your head up your ass and not pay any attention to what's going on, well, hey, you do you.
 

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Lmao.... A Libertarian independent journo who made his bones on 20/20 when networks truly reported the news is slanting his reporting? 5 v1 does not provide balance. Truly living with your head buried in the sand.
 

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Lmao.... A Libertarian independent journo who made his bones on 20/20 when networks truly reported the news is slanting his reporting? 5 v1 does not provide balance. Truly living with your head buried in the sand.

I'm not talking about Stossel. Good for him to point out the bias in the media. No one watches his show, except apparently you.

I'm saying there is certainly bias all over the media.

What I'm saying is that once CNN is taken over, a huge chunk of U.S. media will be owned and run by the Ellison and Murdoch families and they certainly are not going to be biased - Don't you agree?

That's what Pelley was complaining about for crying out loud - That he was being told to pepper stories with certain untrue slants and of course segments were starting to be buried on the orders of Bari Weiss, likely driven by David Ellison. And so on.

So no, I don't have my head buried in the sand, but yours is so deeply buried you can't even notice...
 
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I'm not talking about Stossel. Good for him to point out the bias in the media. No one watches show, except apparently you.

I'm saying there is certainly bias all over the media.

What I'm saying is that once CNN is taken over, a huge chunk of U.S. media will be owned and run by the Ellison and Murdoch families and they certainly are not going to be biased - Don't you agree?

That's what Pelley was complaining about for crying out loud - That he was being told to pepper stories with certain untrue slants and of course segments were starting to be buried on the orders of Bari Weiss, likely driven by David Ellison. And so on.

So no, I don't have my head buried in the sand, but yours is so deeply buried you can't even notice...
Did I miss the part where you were upset with the liberal media bias prior to Trump winning?
 

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Lmao.... A Libertarian independent journo who made his bones on 20/20 when networks truly reported the news is slanting his reporting? 5 v1 does not provide balance. Truly living with your head buried in the sand.

LOL - it's been so long I totally conflated 20/20 with 60 Minutes.

Also good to see ND Warrior agrees with kiboshing PBS.
 

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Did I miss the part where you were upset with the liberal media bias prior to Trump winning?

🤦🏻‍♂️ Your and others on here partisan what-about-isms are nauseating... Did you not see where I said "media is biased all the way around" and "there is certainly bias all over the media?"

Do I have to give you left-leaning examples for everything I say. I'm very disillusioned about everything, all sides, our government and politics, ALL SIDES.

And this is not Left or Right... We have had, say, CNN and Fox each with their biases, but this is different.

This is an authoritarian government takeover of our media, most of our law enforcement, just about all of our cabinets, departments and branches of government.

This takeover, done by any party, is wrong and has destroyed our constitutional republic and democracy.

You know it's true when you see former Fox, very right-leaning media personalities challenging and criticizing this admin and their actions at this point.

And yes, I see the bought and paid for congress members all the way around (Cory Booker, Hakeem Jeffries, etc.).

I would love that the country has a Constitutional Convention to execute a ton of a reform, but even that can't happen with the current admin in power because the event would just be twisted into an ugly distortion of a constitutional republic and would be turned into a Christian Nationalist theocratic republic headed by autocratic leadership so forget that idea at this point.
 
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Did you not see where I said "media is biased all the way around" and "there is certainly bias all over the media?"
Except that this is just blatantly and intentionally dishonest and inaccurate. While there certainly is bias on both sides, there's essentially one major media outlet that slants things to the right while there are dozens that slant things to the left. Other than FOX News, virtually all the other news networks and newspapers openly pull for the democrats, feed them debate questions in advance, cover the news in an extremely biased way, and essentially serve as the propaganda arm of the American left. So stop with the false equivalencies.
 

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Except that this is just blatantly and intentionally dishonest and inaccurate. While there certainly is bias on both sides, there's essentially one major media outlet that slants things to the right while there are dozens that slant things to the left. Other than FOX News, virtually all the other news networks and newspapers openly pull for the democrats, feed them debate questions in advance, cover the news in an extremely biased way, and essentially serve as the propaganda arm of the American left. So stop with the false equivalencies.

No, you stop with your silliness. Your statement is extreme. And I'm telling you all the shit you're talking about is becoming a just one big bias that is all about Trump and the coalition behind him which is not even Right / Conservative... It's simply Authoritarian control that says you say only good and favorable things about me and the government; all else is buried. That's not even bias, that's complete control.

Now stop pouting like a child... "Yes, but you're not talking about how left-leaning our media is...Boo hoo" 😭
 
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You are about as extreme as it gets NDW. Angry much? Don't be angry with us-it's like 6 months ago you woke TF up and started looking at the world.
 

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No, you stop with your silliness. Your statement is extreme. And I'm telling you all the shit your talking about is becoming a just one big bias that is all about Trump and the coalition behind him which is not even Right / Conservative... It's simply Authoritarian control that says you say only good and favorable things about me and the government; all else is buried. That's not even bias, that's complete control.

Now stop pouting like a child... "Yes, but you're not talking about how left-leaning our media is...Boo hoo" 😭
Don't get mad because you got called out, and rightfully so. This has been going on for decades, not just since Trump became president. The vast majority of the print and broadcast media is left to far left and it greatly influences what they cover and how they cover it. It's like playing a football game where the refs are all grads of one of the programs. Nobody on FOX openly cries when a dem gets elected. They do on MSNBC. The vast majority of the media in this country is little more than the propaganda wing for the democratic party. They're the American version of Tass or Pravda. Conservatives don't want them to be slanted our way. We just want the media to be fair, balanced, and honest. They aren't.
 

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You are about as extreme as it gets NDW. Angry much? Don't be angry with us-it's like 6 months ago you woke TF up and started looking at the world.

Whatever, extreme times warrant extreme scrutiny and analysis.

You don't have a patent on "I'm so fucking smart you ill-informed serfs!" Many folks are becoming more vigilant because they don't like what's going on BUT not from a fucking cliched what-about-ism Right or Left perspective, but from a things are fucked up with our government and country perspective.

The question now is... WTF are we going to do about it? Regular ballot-box elections have ceased to exist and there is not much to be done by any other branch to keep things in check; oh yeah, and this current admin has now built an army of sycophants in their government and has built (still building) a domestic and compliant army of DHS/ICE/CBP/QRF/FBI and Section 287(g)-secured local and state police forces (and let's not forget about all the new GEO and CC detention centers coming online that are not exclusively going to be committed to immigration detainment) which is very scary.

I'm only upset (not angry) with you guys because you still don't see the danger and just think your side is in control, you're happy as a lark, and nothing is wrong. But that's not the case. Again, this is not about left or right, it's about a complete takeover of our country and government with no recourse for the average citizen to do anything about it.

So in many respects, you guys still need to wake TF up and see what's really going on.
 
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Don't get mad because you got called out, and rightfully so. This has been going on for decades, not just since Trump became president. The vast majority of the print and broadcast media is left to far left and it greatly influences what they cover and how they cover it. It's like playing a football game where the refs are all grads of one of the programs. Nobody on FOX openly cries when a dem gets elected. They do on MSNBC. The vast majority of the media in this country is little more than the propaganda wing for the democratic party. They're the American version of Tass or Pravda. Conservatives don't want them to be slanted our way. We just want the media to be fair, balanced, and honest. They aren't.
Again, see what I just wrote here. That all may be true but things are much bigger and more urgent than all this left, right pitter patter.
 

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So much is wrong with your rants. Congrats on waking up and participating in society.
 

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Whatever, extreme times warrant extreme scrutiny and analysis.

You don't have a patent on "I'm so fucking smart you ill-informed serfs!" Many folks are becoming more vigilant because they don't like what's going on BUT not from a fucking cliched what-about-ism Right or Left perspective, but from a things are fucked up with our government and country perspective.

The question now is... WTF are we going to do about it? Regular ballot-box elections have ceased to exist and there is not much to be done by any other branch to keep things in check; oh yeah, and this current admin has now built an army of sycophants in their government and has built (still building) a domestic and compliant army of DHS/ICE/CBP/QRF/FBI and Section 287(g)-secured local and state police forces (and let's not forget about all the new GEO and CC detention centers coming online that are not exclusively going to be committed to immigration detainment) which is very scary.

I'm only upset (not angry) with you guys because you still don't see the danger and just think your side is control, you're happy as a lark, and nothing is wrong. But that's not the case. Again, this is not about left or right, it's about a complete takeover of our country and government with no recourse for the average citizen to do anything about it.

So in many respects, you guys still need to wake TF up and see what's really going on.
Swing and a miss.
 

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The fact that you "loved" my sarcastic comment about the two police officers killed at J6 tells me everything. If you're buying that narrative, there's no sense in me going further.
 

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SOOOOOOOO close. Yes the three letter government agencies are your enemy and controlled by people that hate you. Whatever you do, don't look up Ruby Ridge or MK Ultra. Rather - do look those up - I can't wait to see how your TDS makes it Trump's fault.

Talking with uber lib, Moral Monday marching retired former co-worker this weekend. Israel is where left and right come full circle to meet.
 

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SOOOOOOOO close. Yes the three letter government agencies are your enemy and controlled by people that hate you. Whatever you do, don't look up Ruby Ridge or MK Ultra. Rather - do look those up - I can't wait to see how your TDS makes it Trump's fault.

Talking with uber lib, Moral Monday marching retired former co-worker this weekend. Israel is where left and right come full circle to meet.

What's your point? Sure, the government does some nasty, covert shit and tries to get away with covering it up? That's nothing new.

And why would I have TDS and blame Trump for these actions? Don't even tell me you think Trump is somehow you're savior against this government covert shit? He's part of it.

Sure, Israel is deeply entrenched and in contril and all parties are seeing that increasingly on the daily, but the question is, what do we do about it?
 

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Vote and/or run for office. Me? I'm going to keep on living my life.

That's nice, you're the best. I think you're kind of missing my whole point... That's maybe how I've been thinking up to the Trump 2 admin.

Here's the problem, you certainly can do it and maybe, just maybe, you'll do fine.

However, this admin and their increasing authoritarian control is likely to force you to stand up for yourself and fight back at some point.

Perhaps a data center is forced into your backyard; maybe you are forced to get rid of your older vehicle as the automated, surveilled vehicle laws kick in across states; or, maybe you and all of us are forced into the CBDC standard.

We will see...
 

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At least this time around I have AI to help me evaluate most appropriate countries to buy citizenship from when Kamala wins in 2028.
 
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