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Christians. I’m fine with concluding you have ax to grind with Christians that have not evolved enough to your mold of what new age Christianity should look like… here is a book that best describes it and you.

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Yeah, I’m the danger to Christianity, certainly not those screeching about Christian Nationalism or saying shit like all other religions are false and wrong. Those kinds of people are surely going to be seen as normal people who will help spread the religion. Or the types of people who shit their pants at “the pope is woke!!”.

Me saying those things makes me “anti-Christian” lmao maybe I should pick my favourite 5 verses and just argue them literally so I can convince everyone how spiritual I am so I can grift off that.
 

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The main difference between here and Hungary and Russia, the models for Trump's little despot turn, is he does not have the mandate that Orban and Putin have. Orban has consistently had approval ratings over 50% his entire reign and Putin even higher. Trump is all the way down in the low 40s while the economy is staying about where it was. He doesn't have the popularity outside of the useless southern and rural areas of the country to pull off his dictator dreams. This regime is not popular enough for Sinclair ABC to show the Horst Wessel Variety Hour nightly.
 

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saying shit like all other religions are false and wrong.

So Christians aren't allowed to call other religions wrong, but you are allowed to call people who disagree with your beliefs wrong? How is that any different?

You must show complete empathy to the guy who said empathy is fake. They should just put a MAGA hat on a steaming turd and make everyone grovel to the pile of shit.

Read the full quote:
"Bill Clinton in the 1990s, it was all about empathy and sympathy. It was 'I feel your pain,' right? The saxophone, the relatability, the connection. I can’t stand the word empathy, actually. I think empathy is a made-up, new age term that does a lot of damage, but it is very effective when it comes to politics. Sympathy, I prefer more than empathy. That’s a separate topic for a different time."

You like data. Data can be misleading without context. Misleading like paraphrasing quotes without context. You should know this.
 

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Yeah, I’m the danger to Christianity, certainly not those screeching about Christian Nationalism or saying shit like all other religions are false and wrong. Those kinds of people are surely going to be seen as normal people who will help spread the religion. Or the types of people who shit their pants at “the pope is woke!!”.

Me saying those things makes me “anti-Christian” lmao maybe I should pick my favourite 5 verses and just argue them literally so I can convince everyone how spiritual I am so I can grift off that.
Danger to? Not even close. A wise man once said, you are either a missionary or mission field, there is no in between. You are not a missionary… so that leaves just one. You basically spit on those that try to use Christianity, you think we should be silent… if you believe the Bible you need to read about the Great Commission. God calls us to do “things”. Missionary or mission field. Chose one or be one.
 
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FCC threatening ABC affiliates unless ABC pulls Kimmel. Retard occupied government.
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Yeah, I’m the danger to Christianity, certainly not those screeching about Christian Nationalism or saying shit like all other religions are false and wrong. Those kinds of people are surely going to be seen as normal people who will help spread the religion. Or the types of people who shit their pants at “the pope is woke!!”.

Me saying those things makes me “anti-Christian” lmao maybe I should pick my favourite 5 verses and just argue them literally so I can convince everyone how spiritual I am so I can grift off that.
I’m genuinely curious. What religion are you? If you are Christian but blast those that spread the gospel are you really? I’ve never ever ever ever seen you spread or promote a religion. I’m assuming some made up Toronto religion to fit Torontos life and choices?
 

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Danger to? Not even close. A wise man once said, you are either a missionary or mission field, there is no in between. You are not a missionary… so that leaves just one. You basically spit on those that try to use Christianity, you think we should be silent… if you believe the Bible you need to read about the Great Commission. God calls us to do “things”. Missionary or mission field. Chose one or be one.
I spit on those that are militant in their actions and justify their bullshit by using religion to justify it. It’s fucking insane. I was raised catholic and I know from my time going to church growing up I wasn’t taught to be some weirdo saying other religions are false or whatever. I believe I took a lot of the core tenants from that time I was a regular attendee and have applied it to my everyday life. Now that I’m a grown ass man, I think I’m doing pretty well on my Christian scorecard, certainly much more so than someone like Charlie Kirk and his ilk.

I’m genuinely curious. What religion are you? If you are Christian but blast those that spread the gospel are you really? I’ve never ever ever ever seen you spread or promote a religion. I’m assuming some made up Toronto religion to fit Torontos life and choices?

Spread religion? I’m the most open minded one about religion on here. Do I need to film myself standing on the corner of the street asking people to repent with a microphone? Do I need to do performative actions so I can score extra TP USA credits and ensure I donate monthly contributions?
 

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I was raised catholic and I know from my time going to church growing up I wasn’t taught to be some weirdo saying other religions are false or whatever. I believe I took a lot of the core tenants from that time I was a regular attendee and have applied it to my everyday life.

The core tenet of Christianity:

John 14:6
Jesus said to him, “I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me."
 

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I think someone beat you guys to it. Swear I already saw that tweet posted in another thread and referring to Ash :laugh:
 

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So Christians aren't allowed to call other religions wrong, but you are allowed to call people who disagree with your beliefs wrong? How is that any different?



Read the full quote:
"Bill Clinton in the 1990s, it was all about empathy and sympathy. It was 'I feel your pain,' right? The saxophone, the relatability, the connection. I can’t stand the word empathy, actually. I think empathy is a made-up, new age term that does a lot of damage, but it is very effective when it comes to politics. Sympathy, I prefer more than empathy. That’s a separate topic for a different time."

You like data. Data can be misleading without context. Misleading like paraphrasing quotes without context. You should know this.
You’ve really got yourself all twisted into a knot.

I don’t think the abrahamic religions should be calling the other ones false. I’ll take those more studied on the matter than whatever I think.


Even the most recent conservative pope has said less combative things than what you think.


On one side you have multiple catholic leaders, and on the other you have yourself. I know you don’t take kindly to having to listen to others or those with positions of authority on the subject matter, but you think you can listen to the pope?
 

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No knot at all. Don't reach.

I listen. Don't conflate listening and agreeing. I am able to listen well enough to accurately capture, recall, and respond to others' exact words. I don't twist others' words like you have done multiple times in the last few posts.

Popes can say what they want. They are flawed , imperfect people with opinions and sins, just like us.

Here's what matters:
- Sola scriptura.
- Sola fide.
- Sola gratia.
- Solus Christus.
- Soli Deo gloria
 

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I spit on those that are militant in their actions and justify their bullshit by using religion to justify it. It’s fucking insane. I was raised catholic and I know from my time going to church growing up I wasn’t taught to be some weirdo saying other religions are false or whatever. I believe I took a lot of the core tenants from that time I was a regular attendee and have applied it to my everyday life. Now that I’m a grown ass man, I think I’m doing pretty well on my Christian scorecard, certainly much more so than someone like Charlie Kirk and his ilk.



Spread religion? I’m the most open minded one about religion on here. Do I need to film myself standing on the corner of the street asking people to repent with a microphone? Do I need to do performative actions so I can score extra TP USA credits and ensure I donate monthly contributions?
I for one will be anxious to see the video.
 

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How is this offensive about Kirk? He's mocking Trump.
This is an interesting comment and shows the different lens people see things. I read what Kimmel said and I don't think it was because of the comment "Trump mourning like a 4 year old mourns a goldfish" that got him suspended. I think his comment that MAGA is trying to change the narrative in the media is why he's suspended.
 

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I spit on those that are militant in their actions and justify their bullshit by using religion to justify it. It’s fucking insane.
Which is confusing, because we have a man spreading the word of God that just got shot in the neck. A man that you have gone on record multiple times that you think he is the scum of the Earth. Who is the Militant?
I was raised catholic and I know from my time going to church
Which leads me to believe you have stopped attending a church, which also leads me to believe you do not surround yourself with other Christian people. I think it’s pretty obvious with what you put out on this board shows that your input into your brain and your lifestyle is not centered around a Christian lifestyle.
growing up I wasn’t taught to be some weirdo saying other religions are false or whatever.
I’m genuinely curious of what you were taught. The great commission is Jesus Christ telling his people to go and preach the gospel to all nations. That is the gospel of Christianity, not Islam not any other “false religion“
I believe I took a lot of the core tenants from that time I was a regular attendee and have applied it to my everyday life.
We are saved by Faith not by works. The whole point and purpose of being a Christian is About having a relationship with Jesus Christ. The Bible is not a book that you can just pick good things from to try to be a good person and just follow some or a lot of what it says. The purpose is to follow everything it says.
Now that I’m a grown ass man,
Which implies that you think you are smart and independent and know better. Which you have proved you know nothing or very little about what the Bible says.
I think I’m doing pretty well on my Christian scorecard,
Our works will not get us into heaven. You need to have an intimate relationship with Jesus Christ not just do “good things“ to check on your scorecard.
certainly much more so than someone like Charlie Kirk and his ilk.
Charlie Kirk is just as much of a flawed, broken human being than the rest of us. He’s not perfect and nobody is ever claiming him to be perfect. He is capable of being wrong just like the next person. He was shot in the neck for professing what the Bible says about a certain behavior. And as flawed and as broken as that man was, he was spot on and 100% correct on that topic. He is being accused of hate speech when it just turns out, they just hated his speech, because he was right.
Spread religion? I’m the most open minded one about religion on here.
I have no problem saying I am the most close minded when it comes to religion. I am a Christian. It’s hilarious you seem to be trying to be prove you are some sort of superior version of your own made up Christian and then say you are the most open minded when it comes to religion.
Do I need to film myself standing on the corner of the street asking people to repent with a microphone? Do I need to do performative actions so I can score extra TP USA credits and ensure I donate monthly contributions?
No, you do not. But you have proven time and time again you have no clue what a Christian is. Or even what the Bible says. I’m not even sure what you are trying to prove at this point. You are a very open minded Christian/Catholic that just follows some things in the Bible but not all because if you did you would be as bad as Charlie Kirk? You’re confused. And it shows on the board. Church is on Sunday…you should probably go.
 

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because we have a man spreading the word of God
Incorrect.

your lifestyle is not centered around a Christian lifestyle.
Neither is yours. Especially, if you were friends with Kirk.

The purpose is to follow everything it says.
Where in the Bible does it say that it's acceptable to say that people who aren't your sex/race don't have the same brain processing power?

Or that we should we should make light of someone's husband nearly being killed and call on "patriots" to bail the person who committed the crime out of jail?

Book, Chapter, & verse. Thanks.
Charlie Kirk is just as much of a flawed, broken human being than the rest of us
That's an understatement. Charlie Kirk was a piece of shit.

He was shot in the neck for professing what the Bible says about a certain behavior
Incorrect.

he was spot on and 100% correct on that topic.
Wrong.

He is being accused of hate speech
because he practiced hate speech.

I have no problem saying I am the most close minded when it comes to religion
You're small minded when it comes to everything else as well. Brutal combination that leads to morons like you existing.

But you have proven time and time again you have no clue what a Christian is. Or even what the Bible says
Same for you.

you would be as bad as Charlie Kirk?
At least you admit he was bad!
 
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Trump shot at, whoever the MN person was got killed, and the very public execution/assassination of Charlie Kirk.
Very Christian and righteous man who values every life can't even take the time to remember/look up/type the name of Melissa Hortman.

Makes a ton of sense.
 

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No knot at all. Don't reach.

I listen. Don't conflate listening and agreeing. I am able to listen well enough to accurately capture, recall, and respond to others' exact words. I don't twist others' words like you have done multiple times in the last few posts.

Popes can say what they want. They are flawed , imperfect people with opinions and sins, just like us.

Here's what matters:
- Sola scriptura.
- Sola fide.
- Sola gratia.
- Solus Christus.
- Soli Deo gloria

Slow down, and read. Stay with us here.

Who should a Christian look to, you or the pope?
 

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Slow down, and read. Stay with us here.

Who should a Christian look to, you or the pope?
Niether. Both are flawed and cannot get you into heaven.

Edit… but I will also add that God does call us to be in good company. We are the sum of who we surround ourselves with. The whole thing about iron sharpening iron and many other random things in the Bible that you may or may not subscribe to, because you only pick and choose. The Bible is very clear about surrounding yourselves with Christians or in essence, the body of believers, essentially the Christian Church. God does not call us to follow the pope or look to the pope. Jesus came to the Earth for that very reason, so we can look to Jesus.
 
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I'm not off topic. I already answered who a Christian should look to: sola scriptura. Solus Christus.
Christians shouldn't look to me, a pastor, a church, or a pope for religious guidance. We're all human and flawed.

By the way: Catholics recognize the pope as the figurehead of the church. Not reformed Christians.

Also: I never said that Christians should look to me. You are the one that implied that.
 

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Neither is yours. Especially, if you were friends with Kirk.

In your words, define a Christian lifestyle. What are the key attributes that would qualify someone as a Christian?

Where in the Bible does it say that it's acceptable to say that people who aren't your sex/race don't have the same brain processing power?

Or that we should we should make light of someone's husband nearly being killed and call on "patriots" to bail the person who committed the crime out of jail?

Book, Chapter, & verse. Thanks.

Again, put the quotes in context. Charlie was specifically talking about four people, not an entire demographic:
"If we would have said three weeks ago […] that Joy Reid and Michelle Obama and Sheila Jackson Lee and Ketanji Brown Jackson were affirmative-action picks, we would have been called racist. But now they're coming out and they're saying it for us! They're coming out and they're saying, 'I'm only here because of affirmative action.' Yeah, we know. You do not have the brain processing power to otherwise be taken really seriously. You had to go steal a white person's slot to go be taken somewhat seriously."

And:
"Why is the Republican Party — why is the conservative movement to blame for gay schizophrenic nudists that are hemp jewelry makers, breaking into somebody’s home or maybe not breaking into somebody’s home? Why are we to blame for that, exactly? And why is he still in jail? Why has he not been bailed out? By the way, if some amazing patriot out there in San Francisco or the Bay Area wants to really be a midterm hero, someone should go and bail this guy out. I bet his bail’s like 30 or 40,000 bucks. Bail him out, and then go ask him some questions." He also clarified, "I’m not qualifying [the attack]. I think it’s awful. It’s not right."

Also - again, nobody claimed Kirk was perfect, as Blazer said. Do you believe someone has to be perfect to be a Christian?


That's an understatement. Charlie Kirk was a piece of shit.

You've said numerous things on this board to attack people. Your disdain toward Kirk for the things that he has said is hypocritical, given all the things you've said to people here. Do you think you are good person? If so, would we be able to find posts on this board where you mock or insult others?

because he practiced hate speech.

For as many "hateful" things as he said, I can find multiple examples of him extending kindness to others. Do you consider those moments when assessing someone's character, or do you only look at the bad?

Do you want others to view you with the same parameters that you view Kirk? Should we call you a bad person for calling someone a piece of shit or a moron? Would you like your posts here to be a part of your eulogy?
 
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