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[Polish Leppy 22]

For the love of God, tell me why in the world is Canada and the United States requiring vaccinations of truckers to cross the border. Please help me understand how vaccinating a truck driver has any impact on the spread of Covid?

It's insane, and further prolongs the supply chain issues.

 

[TorontoGold]

Ottawa looks lit right now. Canada is finally interesting.

[TWEET]https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1487495863026991110?s=20&t=2fiSqt2WZj4JFL_pWyEGeA[/TWEET]

Missing italics?

 

[irishff1014]

For the love of God, tell me why in the world is Canada and the United States requiring vaccinations of truckers to cross the border. Please help me understand how vaccinating a truck driver has any impact on the spread of Covid?

Both countries are run by morons.

 

[ulukinatme]

Trucker protest in Canada

[TWEET]https://twitter.com/NicoleArbour/status/1486947923820781569[/TWEET]

This shit is sad. This wouldn't just affect the convoy, it would affect anyone on the road. At least someone saw them and is doing something about it.

[TWEET]https://twitter.com/beingrealmac/status/1487822196991049736[/TWEET]

 

[NorthDakota]

Missing italics?

Idk, seems as exciting as anything to come out of Canada in some time. Seriously don't recall the last time Canadian news went mainstream in the US (sports riots/celebrations notwithstanding). I'm too young to remember if the Quebec independence referendum in the 90's made big news or not. Whatever is going on up there, it has made the national news and american twittersphere.

 

[TorontoGold]

Idk, seems as exciting as anything to come out of Canada in some time. Seriously don't recall the last time Canadian news went mainstream in the US (sports riots/celebrations notwithstanding). I'm too young to remember if the Quebec independence referendum in the 90's made big news or not. Whatever is going on up there, it has made the national news and american twittersphere.

Not sure Nazi flags flying at the parliament buildings is something to celebrate (not saying you are) or is "lit". We had our own Jan 6th cosplayers defacing war memorials too lmao.

 

[ulukinatme]

Not sure Nazi flags flying at the parliament buildings is something to celebrate (not saying you are) or is "lit". We had our own Jan 6th cosplayers defacing war memorials too lmao.

I heard the crowd was trying to push the flag carriers out, which if true is nice to hear. I honestly have become a bit skeptical when these nutjobs show up at protests. After all the false flag BS the last 5 years and stuff like the Youngkin rally it really makes me wonder how many of these idiots are the nutjobs they say they are, or if they're posing to discredit a movement. Either way they're not welcome.

 

[Irish#1]

Whoopi Goldberg tells everyone the holocaust was not about race. She must have felt the heat pretty quickly as she apologized several hours later yesterday.

 

[irishff1014]

Whoopi Goldberg tells everyone the holocaust was not about race. She must have felt the heat pretty quickly as she apologized several hours later yesterday.

She is an idiot . She is a liberal and she is black. Any white person said anything like that and they would have been crucified.

 

[TorontoGold]

I heard the crowd was trying to push the flag carriers out, which if true is nice to hear. I honestly have become a bit skeptical when these nutjobs show up at protests. After all the false flag BS the last 5 years and stuff like the Youngkin rally it really makes me wonder how many of these idiots are the nutjobs they say they are, or if they're posing to discredit a movement. Either way they're not welcome.

They also shutdown vaccine clinics (not very pro-choice of them), food banks were ransacked by the protesters, and ambulances couldn't get to hospitals leading to deaths. By no means should anyone refer to this event as "lit". Even on the off chance that multiple people coordinated a false flag operation, the other actions are not something to celebrate.

 

[irishog77]

They also shutdown vaccine clinics (not very pro-choice of them), food banks were ransacked by the protesters, and ambulances couldn't get to hospitals leading to deaths. By no means should anyone refer to this event as "lit". Even on the off chance that multiple people coordinated a false flag operation, the other actions are not something to celebrate.

I'm all in on an event like this that has made your pussy prime minister run and hide.

 

[TorontoGold]

I'm all in on an event like this that has made your pussy prime minister run and hide.

Had COVID exposure prior to the convoy, and recently tested positive. Probably for the best he wasn't out there.

 

[Greenore]

They also shutdown vaccine clinics (not very pro-choice of them), food banks were ransacked by the protesters, and ambulances couldn't get to hospitals leading to deaths. By no means should anyone refer to this event as "lit". Even on the off chance that multiple people coordinated a false flag operation, the other actions are not something to celebrate.

Sources? I've read a pretty different narrative and not because of my politics.

I did look things up but found very different reasons and/or explanations for the vaccine clinic closure (parking?). Couldn't find a thing on food banks being ransacked... approached yes, but not ransacked. The deaths due to ambulance obstructions are complete news to me.

That's some scary stuff not being reported (apparently), west of Ontario.

Cheers and Go Irish!!

 

[ab2cmiller]

Sources? I've read a pretty different narrative and not because of my politics.

I did look things up but found very different reasons and/or explanations for the vaccine clinic closure (parking?). Couldn't find a thing on food banks being ransacked... approached yes, but not ransacked. The deaths due to ambulance obstructions are complete news to me.

That's some scary stuff not being reported (apparently), west of Ontario.

Cheers and Go Irish!!

I did read some news articles that a number of people approached a soup kitchen and wanted to be fed. Obviously, the purpose of the soup kitchen is to feed the homeless but they did relent and fed those that requested it to diffuse any potential conflict. I don't really doubt that the story is true based upon what I read.

 

[TorontoGold]

Sources? I've read a pretty different narrative and not because of my politics.

I did look things up but found very different reasons and/or explanations for the vaccine clinic closure (parking?). Couldn't find a thing on food banks being ransacked... approached yes, but not ransacked. The deaths due to ambulance obstructions are complete news to me.

That's some scary stuff not being reported (apparently), west of Ontario.

Cheers and Go Irish!!

Local Ottawa news paper details a paper wide list of things that were impacted by the protests. The vaccine clinics were closed for two days from transport issues. - https://ottawacitizen.com/news/loca...epherds-of-good-hope-overwhelmed-by-donations

The deaths came from a surgeon at one of the hospitals who's friends of a friend (grain of salt etc.) that deals with the ICU. The traffic delays significantly impacted the ambulances ability to get to the hospitals.

Here's something from Newsweek on the homeless shelter https://www.newsweek.com/ottawa-hom...andate-protesters-demanding-free-food-1674644

Curious on your thoughts on this Greenore.

 

[Greenore]

Local Ottawa news paper details a paper wide list of things that were impacted by the protests. The vaccine clinics were closed for two days from transport issues. - https://ottawacitizen.com/news/loca...epherds-of-good-hope-overwhelmed-by-donations

The deaths came from a surgeon at one of the hospitals who's friends of a friend (grain of salt etc.) that deals with the ICU. The traffic delays significantly impacted the ambulances ability to get to the hospitals.

Here's something from Newsweek on the homeless shelter https://www.newsweek.com/ottawa-hom...andate-protesters-demanding-free-food-1674644

Curious on your thoughts on this Greenore.

If you read your sources, I'm sure you will understand my concerns with your former post.

My thoughts on the "Freedom Convoy" or something else?

On the "Freedom Convoy", I thought it was a ridiculous waste of time and resources. My opinion only and I may be proven wrong. I could never understand what they were trying to accomplish.

I think many Canadians have been shocked at the media bias favoring the Liberal Party of Canada and Justin Trudeau. Perhaps an unintended consequence of "Freedom Convoy" but a huge win for democracy and freedom. I will hold my breath as many Canadians have a very short memory.

Cheers and Go Irish!!

 

[Greenore]

They also shutdown vaccine clinics (not very pro-choice of them), food banks were ransacked by the protesters, and ambulances couldn't get to hospitals leading to deaths. By no means should anyone refer to this event as "lit". Even on the off chance that multiple people coordinated a false flag operation, the other actions are not something to celebrate.

So, did some more "research" and taking off the kid's gloves, this post is complete Bull$hit. Come on TG, you're better than that.

Cheers and Go Irish!!

 

[TorontoGold]

So, did some more "research" and taking off the kid's gloves, this post is complete Bull$hit. Come on TG, you're better than that.

Cheers and Go Irish!!

Shutdowns - "Two COVID-19 vaccination clinics in Sandy Hill and Lowertown will be closed this weekend as the convoy protesting COVID-19 vaccine mandates and other restrictions arrives in Ottawa." https://ottawa.ctvnews.ca/ottawa-pu...convoy-set-to-arrive-in-the-capital-1.5757636

Food bank/Homeless shelter - "The individuals were given meals to diffuse the conflict. Management was then informed of the issue and no further meals were given to protesters. Our soup kitchen is committed to providing meals to people experiencing and at risk of homelessness in Ottawa. This weekend’s events have caused significant strain to our operations at an already difficult time" https://ottawa.ctvnews.ca/ottawa-ho...by-convoy-protesters-demanding-food-1.5760423

Deaths - You can disagree with me on this since it comes from a personal source. So c'est la vie.

I'm encouraged by your statement of you doing your own "research" however, until posted, is as you - Bull$hit. Mudslinging is not in your wheelhouse, disagreeing for the sake of political differences isn't something you usually do and out of character. Hopefully you can look past the poster posting it next time.

 

[Greenore]

If I'm wrong or misunderstood, I hope you correct me:

They also shutdown vaccine clinics (not very pro-choice of them), food banks were ransacked by the protesters, and ambulances couldn't get to hospitals leading to deaths. By no means should anyone refer to this event as "lit". Even on the off chance that multiple people coordinated a false flag operation, the other actions are not something to celebrate.

Covid vaccine clinic(s) was shut down due to parking issues. Available parking was 3-4 blocks away, I was aware of only one clinic but regardless, if this was important I would have suggested employees walk on paid time. There was NO mandate by this convoy to shut down vaccine clinics. NONE.

Honestly, food banks were not "ransacked". I'm not sure if this was your interpretation or if it was read. Sensationalism at its worst! Soup kitchens and Food Banks are very dear to my heart and I donate a LOT every year. I agree, they should provide to those in need firstly. I have NEVER worked at a soup kitchen where I.D. or proof of need was required. Never. Perhaps this is different in Ontario/Ottawa. Typically, with Food Banks there is an application process to ensure the system distributes accordingly. I still have not read about any ransacking or otherwise vandalism at Ottawa Food Banks attributed to Convoy members.

You likely won't believe me but this isn't about political differences. That's the red flag. It's about right and wrong and accuracy in reporting. Your post really struck a nerve and I apologize that I was so pi$$ed off.

Cheers and Go Irish!!

Quick question and I recognize this is very hypothetical... if the people protesting (and members of this Convoy) were in need of food and/or lodging and qualified under income guidelines, should they be entitled?

The ambulance deaths... I have no idea. Haven't heard anything about it but on its face seems quite unbelievable and certainly unintentional... if true..

 

[TorontoGold]

If I'm wrong or misunderstood, I hope you correct me:



Covid vaccine clinic(s) was shut down due to parking issues. Available parking was 3-4 blocks away, I was aware of only one clinic but regardless, if this was important I would have suggested employees walk on paid time. There was NO mandate by this convoy to shut down vaccine clinics. NONE.

Honestly, food banks were not "ransacked". I'm not sure if this was your interpretation or if it was read. Sensationalism at its worst! Soup kitchens and Food Banks are very dear to my heart and I donate a LOT every year. I agree, they should provide to those in need firstly. I have NEVER worked at a soup kitchen where I.D. or proof of need was required. Never. Perhaps this is different in Ontario/Ottawa. Typically, with Food Banks there is an application process to ensure the system distributes accordingly. I still have not read about any ransacking or otherwise vandalism at Ottawa Food Banks attributed to Convoy members.

You likely won't believe me but this isn't about political differences. That's the red flag. It's about right and wrong and accuracy in reporting. Your post really struck a nerve and I apologize that I was so pi$$ed off.

Cheers and Go Irish!!

Quick question and I recognize this is very hypothetical... if the people protesting (and members of this Convoy) were in need of food and/or lodging and qualified under income guidelines, should they be entitled?

The ambulance deaths... I have no idea. Haven't heard anything about it but on its face seems quite unbelievable and certainly unintentional... if true..

Vaccine clinics were shutdown (you can see the article I posted - https://ottawa.ctvnews.ca/ottawa-pu...convoy-set-to-arrive-in-the-capital-1.5757636) because of the convoy and the ensuing traffic and gridlock they were bringing. That is a fact. Unless I'm reading the wrong reports about Ottawa being shutdown from the convoy traffic they brought.

Food banks being overrun by people that are part of the convoy who were not prepared and sought out food from a shelter are pretty deplorable actions, I think you would agree that it is wrong to do. I posted an article quoting the members from an Ottawa shelter, maybe you glossed over it but in here you can see what happened from their mouth not mine - https://www.newsweek.com/ottawa-hom...andate-protesters-demanding-free-food-1674644 You can post your research where I am wrong because I haven't seen anything contradicting this report. Anyone that qualifies for food assistance should be given it, not sure why anyone disagree with that?

You're fair to disagree with the ambulance deaths, I know from my time in Calgary traffic is not really an issue so it may be an Ontario thing. But gridlock in a city can impact many services. It seems reasonable to assume that a city facing gridlock would experience delays in services.

I made the mention about political differences because there are posts cheering on the convoy, and your first instinct is to claim I'm posting incorrect information (although it is sourced). So you can see how it is confusing, to some they may interpret it as you implicitly being ok with comments cheering on the convoy, and having an issue with my posts instead.

 

[calvegas04]

I remember liberals being okay with similar protest during the whole BLM time in 2020

 

[irishog77]

Vaccine clinics were shutdown (you can see the article I posted - https://ottawa.ctvnews.ca/ottawa-pu...convoy-set-to-arrive-in-the-capital-1.5757636) because of the convoy and the ensuing traffic and gridlock they were bringing. That is a fact. Unless I'm reading the wrong reports about Ottawa being shutdown from the convoy traffic they brought.

Food banks being overrun by people that are part of the convoy who were not prepared and sought out food from a shelter are pretty deplorable actions, I think you would agree that it is wrong to do. I posted an article quoting the members from an Ottawa shelter, maybe you glossed over it but in here you can see what happened from their mouth not mine - https://www.newsweek.com/ottawa-hom...andate-protesters-demanding-free-food-1674644 You can post your research where I am wrong because I haven't seen anything contradicting this report. Anyone that qualifies for food assistance should be given it, not sure why anyone disagree with that?

You're fair to disagree with the ambulance deaths, I know from my time in Calgary traffic is not really an issue so it may be an Ontario thing. But gridlock in a city can impact many services. It seems reasonable to assume that a city facing gridlock would experience delays in services.

I made the mention about political differences because there are posts cheering on the convoy, and your first instinct is to claim I'm posting incorrect information (although it is sourced). So you can see how it is confusing, to some they may interpret it as you implicitly being ok with comments cheering on the convoy, and having an issue with my posts instead.

Sourcing information does not mean it is correct information. I read the links you posted, and can't for the life of me, understand where and when "food banks being overrun by people that are part of the convoy" was ever indicated. In fact, your own sourced story, quoted the person from the food bank finally admitting it wasn't many people.

As for the clinics shutting down. It seems, just as likely, that the clinics opted to shut down due to traffic, rather than they were forced to shut down. There's a difference. Clinics in the U.S. shut down, regularly, for weekends, holidays, snow, the threat of snow, thunderstorms, heat, cold, power outages, flu, etc., etc. Private businesses do not. Generally speaking, when somebody's job and paycheck are guaranteed, they can, and do, shut down every chance they get. Was this the only vaccine clinic in town? No. Not sure how many customers they would be getting anyhow- Canada is highly vaccinated and there isn't a rush for the non-vaccinated to go out and vaccinated in January/February of 2022.

The fact that you also seem to think people, particularly the media, are truthful and accurate in their "reports" of, well, anything these days is cute.

 

[TorontoGold]

Sourcing information does not mean it is correct information. I read the links you posted, and can't for the life of me, understand where and when "food banks being overrun by people that are part of the convoy" was ever indicated. In fact, your own sourced story, quoted the person from the food bank finally admitting it wasn't many people.

As for the clinics shutting down. It seems, just as likely, that the clinics opted to shut down due to traffic, rather than they were forced to shut down. There's a difference. Clinics in the U.S. shut down, regularly, for weekends, holidays, snow, the threat of snow, thunderstorms, heat, cold, power outages, flu, etc., etc. Private businesses do not. Generally speaking, when somebody's job and paycheck are guaranteed, they can, and do, shut down every chance they get. Was this the only vaccine clinic in town? No. Not sure how many customers they would be getting anyhow- Canada is highly vaccinated and there isn't a rush for the non-vaccinated to go out and vaccinated in January/February of 2022.

The fact that you also seem to think people, particularly the media, are truthful and accurate in their "reports" of, well, anything these days is cute.

Please explain to me how a person is supposed to understand events outside of their direct purview. If someone does not support their position with reasoning it's just "Well, yeah but". So let me know which Canadian Media sources are the good ones to use.

You can read directly in the story they were shutdown because of the traffic shutdown that was coming from the protest. So, please share with me where you've heard otherwise.

Who do you believe? Cited interviews with people that actually run these places like the shelter or clinics? I posted news articles saying this might not be such a great thing, but interesting to see so many go to bat for the lowest of low.

 

[Greenore]

Please explain to me how a person is supposed to understand events outside of their direct purview. If someone does not support their position with reasoning it's just "Well, yeah but". So let me know which Canadian Media sources are the good ones to use.

You can read directly in the story they were shutdown because of the traffic shutdown that was coming from the protest. So, please share with me where you've heard otherwise.

Who do you believe? Cited interviews with people that actually run these places like the shelter or clinics? I posted news articles saying this might not be such a great thing, but interesting to see so many go to bat for the lowest of low.

I may not agree with them, I may not understand their mission or objectives but I would never call them (collectively), the lowest of the low.

Cheers and Go Irish!!

 

[ulukinatme]

 

[ulukinatme]

Not sure who has been following the Rogan saga /w Spotify. Joe released a video about a day ago addressing the controversy, seemed rather well thought out. I've often wondered if some of these louder voices chanting for change have even listened to his podcast. Thought this was appropriate.

 

[Irish#1]

That makes the "convoy" days of the 70's look like child's play.

 

[Irish#1]

Not sure who has been following the Rogan saga /w Spotify. Joe released a video about a day ago addressing the controversy, seemed rather well thought out. I've often wondered if some of these louder voices chanting for change have even listened to his podcast. Thought this was appropriate.

I've been reading about it. I think Rogan is smart to reply the way he did. He's been pushing the anti-vax, Ivermectin, conspiracy theory story lines without much of the pro-vax story lines. I don't agree with him, but should he be required to offer both sides? I don't think so. What's the difference between this and the editorial pages in newspapers? Most are smart enough to make their own informed decisions. At least I think they are. Aren't they? lol

 

[Irish#1]

Whoopi Goldberg tells everyone the holocaust was not about race. She must have felt the heat pretty quickly as she apologized several hours later yesterday.

Whoopi has been suspended for two weeks. Joy Behlar and Ana Navraro are outraged that she got suspended. lol

 

[Bishop2b5]

Whoopi has been suspended for two weeks. Joy Behlar and Ana Navraro are outraged that she got suspended. lol

I have a problem with this. I've never liked Whoopi, neither her comedy nor her personality. I find her grating, annoying, unfunny, and couldn't care less about her opinion on anything. OTOH, I hate cancel culture and I think a two week suspension for what she said is BS. I don't think she was intentionally trying to be hateful or anything else. She expressed an opinion awkwardly and from a point of ignorance, not malice. She took responsibility, explained herself, and apologized. That's enough in my book. Suspending her for two weeks was nothing but virtue signaling and pandering on the part of her employer.