Manning better than Brady?

[Rhode Irish]

Haha yeah right.

 

[Irishnuke]

Haha yeah right.

What a f'ing troll.

 

[Rhode Irish]

What a f'ing troll.

Aw bud don't be like that. I just sat in the cold for 6 hours and am now sitting in an ocean of traffic. Can I have some fun? Also, Brady was unreal in the second half and his record against Manning is pretty difficult to argue with.

 

[yankeeND]

Haha yeah right.

 

[Buster Bluth]

Favre

 

[IrishJayhawk]

Favre

No

 

[Redbar]

IMO Manning hands down, not even close. As a defensive coordinator you are coaching against the opposing teams offensive coordinator, but not so with Peyton. He is the first QB, to such a great extent, that is not only playing against the other team but also engaged in strategic maneuvers against the opposing coordinator directly. He is not just a good player he is unique in his study, preparation, and latitude within the offense. Only now are other QB's doing the things he has been doing.

 

[GATTACA!]

Brady is such a puss, complaining to the refs about the non interference call late in the fourth? Come on thats what high school players do when a call doesn't go their way. He's an UGG wearing pretty boy.

So yes Manning is better than Brady............or at least he will be in the stories I tell my grandchildren lol

 

[Pachuco]

The answer is yes, if for no other reason than this:

I mean, there are other more logical reasons, but I can't seem to get past this one for some strange reason....

 

[Rhode Irish]

At least some of you guys are willing to have some fun. Then"debate" is dumb insofar as it is serious. Two all-time greats, arguably the two best ever, battling it out head-to-head so many times. Both do so many things well, and are similar yet so different. For the record, I love Manning and love watching him play. No disrespect to him, just trying to have some fun.

 

[Buster Bluth]

IMO Manning hands down, not even close. As a defensive coordinator you are coaching against the opposing teams offensive coordinator, but not so with Peyton. He is the first QB, to such a great extent, that is not only playing against the other team but also engaged in strategic maneuvers against the opposing coordinator directly. He is not just a good player he is unique in his study, preparation, and latitude within the offense. Only now are other QB's doing the things he has been doing.

I think this is pretty overstated. He is excellent at it, perhaps the best ever, but he's not the first and I think QBs who have been in the system for a decade or so do it often.

 

[Redbar]

I think this is pretty overstated. He is excellent at it, perhaps the best ever, but he's not the first and I think QBs who have been in the system for a decade or so do it all of the time.

Who do you have in mind?

 

[Rhode Irish]

Brady, Brees and maybe even Rodgers all have the same command of their offense and responsibility of "calling" the game from the line. Manning was a trailblazer in that regard, though.

 

[GATTACA!]

Brady, Brees and maybe even Rodgers all have the same command of their offense and responsibility of "calling" the game from the line. Manning was a trailblazer in that regard, though.

I dont know. Im sure all of those guys have full control of whats going on at the line, but Manning seems to just be on another level. Audibling into one coverage or another is one thing. Manning seems to be changing EVERYTHING at the line. It looks like he knows exactly what the D is doing every play.

 

[MPClinton22]

Brady is now 10-4 vs Manning
Manning is 9-11 in postseason all time, with 8 one and dones.
Brady is 17-7 in postseason all time, with only 2 one and dones.

Ain't even a question.

And I'm obviously a homer.

 

[Redbar]

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[Redbar]

Brady, Brees and maybe even Rodgers all have the same command of their offense and responsibility of "calling" the game from the line. Manning was a trailblazer in that regard, though.

Sean Payton calls the plays in New Orleans, obviously Drew audibles out of things, I know Rodgers doesn't call his own plays, and I am not talking about "command of the game", I am talking about actually selecting the play, identifying the pressures and coverages and calling his protections. More people do the latter stuff now, it has become a part of the job, but Manning did all of those things first. I am a fan of all the quarterbacks you listed, and others, and maybe it is just in degree, but Manning is unique. He changed the position.
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[Redbar]

Brady is now 10-4 vs Manning
Manning is 9-11 in postseason all time, with 8 one and dones.
Brady is 17-7 in postseason all time, with only 2 one and dones.

Ain't even a question.

And I'm obviously a homer.

Football is a team sport.

 

[BobD]

It would be easier to decide if Brady wasnt a metrosexual scUM.

They're both awesome. I would say this....If I owned an NFL team with a great coach, I'd want Brady to be my QB........with a just OK coach, I'd want Manning.

They should get together and start a QB school.

 

[irishfan]

I don't see how a sane person can look at the 10-4 record and their opposite performances last night (the Broncos top 3 WRs are more talented than any WR on the Pats and Brady threw for 194 more yards!) and say that Brady isn't better than Manning at this point.

 

[palinurus]

Brady is now 10-4 vs Manning
Manning is 9-11 in postseason all time, with 8 one and dones.
Brady is 17-7 in postseason all time, with only 2 one and dones.

Ain't even a question.

And I'm obviously a homer.

Yeah, but no titles since they got caught cheating

I do think these guys, along with Favre, are the three best of the recent era (last 10-15 years), but maybe I'm missing somebody. I do have a hard time comparing players across eras, so I am not prepared to say any of them are better than Montana or Bradshaw or Unitas, or Sammy Baugh for that matter; the rules are just too different.

 

[autry_denson]

Haha yeah right.

Envious you got to experience that game. One of the classics of the B&B era. Watching Brady throw into the wind was a thing of beauty. Best ever status goes to Montana. Brady wins 1 more then you have a debate. Manning's got 1 super bowl - he's not in the discussion.

 

[rtrn2glory]

tom brady outside of gronk might be the least armed elite QB in the league. were he in chicago they'd be un-defeated.

seriously 3 straight turnovers to start a game at the NFL level? i know it was cold, but come on Pats you should be very used to those elements. hold on to the ball and you probably win easily

 

[#1rish]

Being an OC under Manning must be the easiest job in the NFL.

Let's call this play Peyton

Sounds good coach

Checks play anyway

 

[irishfan]

tom brady outside of gronk might be the least armed elite QB in the league. were he in chicago they'd be un-defeated.

seriously 3 straight turnovers to start a game at the NFL level? i know it was cold, but come on Pats you should be very used to those elements. hold on to the ball and you probably win

Not to be a d!ck, but did you go to bed at halftime?

 

[FightingIrishLover7]

Envious you got to experience that game. One of the classics of the B&B era. Watching Brady throw into the wind was a thing of beauty. Best ever status goes to Montana. Brady wins 1 more than you have a debate. Manning's got 1 super bowl - he's not in the discussion.

Number of championships is still a ridiculous way to measure someone's ability.

It's a ridiculous argument.
I could say Andy Petite is better than Nolan Ryan with that logic...

 

[IrishJayhawk]

Number of championships is still a ridiculous way to measure someone's ability.

It's a ridiculous argument.
I could say Andy Petite is better than Nolan Ryan with that logic...

Robert Horry is like Bill Russell.

 

[Nothingman]

Number of championships is still a ridiculous way to measure someone's ability.

It's a ridiculous argument.
I could say Andy Petite is better than Nolan Ryan with that logic...

Agreed. Does someone want to argue that Trent Dilfer and Brad Johnson were better QBs than Dan Marino, Jim Kelley, and Fran Tarkenton?

 

[IrishJayhawk]

Agreed. Does someone want to argue that Trent Dilfer and Brad Johnson were better QBs than Dan Marino, Jim Kelley, and Fran Tarkenton?

Your point is well taken. But, to be fair, it is a more important stat for quarterbacks, who have arguably more influence on the outcome of a game than any other position player of any team game.

 

[notredomer23]

If I was choosing who I would want for a single game, I would choose Manning. If I was choosing who I would want for a whole season(playoffs included), I am choosing Brady everyday of the week. And that comes from someone who despises the Patriots and Brady.