Luck staying at Stanford

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cool, i cant wait for that game next season. plus, i get to hang on to my carloina panthers t shirt and hat for another year!
 

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This is ****ing moronic. I thought Stanford kids were supposed to be smart. Did he learn nothing from Leinhart and Locker? This is going to cost Luck, at a minimum, tens of millions of dollars. He could've signed a deal for darn near $18-20 mil a year if he came out this year and now he will be lucky to get more than $5 mil a year if they put in a rookie wage scale and he is forfeiting one year of money making. Over the next five years, this will cost him something like $80 million.

I am utterly and totally shocked.
In response to this...Has he learned anything from the Mannings, both Peyton and Eli stayed for their Senior year. From what I heard this morning on the radio Luck asked Peyton for advice and guess what Peyton told him...
 

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I think this is an attempt to try and get Harbaugh to stay. I think if Harbaugh officially leaves, Luck will follow. What is the latest date that he can change his mind?

As for Amir, I think he has more of a connection with Harbaugh and coaching staff then with Andrew Luck.
 

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I am absolutely floored by this decision. In my opinion and almost everyone I have heard on TV or radio, this is just plain STUPID!!!

He is staying to get his education??? You can come and get that with the MILLIONS you will be paid in the NFL.

I cannot understand how you do this being the lock as number 1 in the NFL draft.
 

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I think this is an attempt to try and get Harbaugh to stay. I think if Harbaugh officially leaves, Luck will follow. What is the latest date that he can change his mind?

As for Amir, I think he has more of a connection with Harbaugh and coaching staff then with Andrew Luck.
Jan 14th, so about a week. Kid is staying at Stanford bro.
 

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I am absolutely floored by this decision. In my opinion and almost everyone I have heard on TV or radio, this is just plain STUPID!!!

He is staying to get his education??? You can come and get that with the MILLIONS you will be paid in the NFL.

I cannot understand how you do this being the lock as number 1 in the NFL draft.
He's not staying just for the degree, he is staying for the college experience. That is something he can't go back and get. He can go back and get his degree, but not the experience of being in college.

Look him and Peyton Manning are very similiar...They both had fathers who played in the NFL, they both would have been the number 1 pick and they both stayed in school for that college experience bro.
 

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In response to this...Has he learned anything from the Mannings, both Peyton and Eli stayed for their Senior year. From what I heard this morning on the radio Luck asked Peyton for advice and guess what Peyton told him...

Normally I would totally buy this logic. However, with the looming rookie wage scale and potential departure of Harbaugh.... the situation is quite different then the one faced by either Manning. Also, for every Manning there are probably two Leinarts or Lockers. If you're the #1 guy, you should probably go. If you're the #1 guy and there is a looming wage scale and your coach is probably going to be gone, I'd say you should definitely go.

Then again, I'm just an engineer with an internet connection and my opinion isn't really worth two $hits. And maybe he knows something we don't about Harbaugh.
 

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This is ****ing moronic. I thought Stanford kids were supposed to be smart. Did he learn nothing from Leinhart and Locker? This is going to cost Luck, at a minimum, tens of millions of dollars. He could've signed a deal for darn near $18-20 mil a year if he came out this year and now he will be lucky to get more than $5 mil a year if they put in a rookie wage scale and he is forfeiting one year of money making. Over the next five years, this will cost him something like $80 million.

I am utterly and totally shocked.

Good for him, unless he gets injured. Your money will come to you eventually if you can mature enough at the next level. Staying another year is just polish on the prize.

PS: This has nothing to do with Harbaugh. Harbaugh is as good as gone.
 

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Normally I would totally buy this logic. However, with the looming rookie wage scale and potential departure of Harbaugh.... the situation is quite different then the one faced by either Manning. Also, for every Manning there are probably two Leinarts or Lockers. If you're the #1 guy, you should probably go. If you're the #1 guy and there is a looming wage scale and your coach is probably going to be gone, I'd say you should definitely go.

Then again, I'm just an engineer with an internet connection and my opinion isn't really worth two $hits. And maybe he knows something we don't about Harbaugh.
You make some valid points...Maybe money doesn't matter to Luck. his dad played in the NFL so they are probably well of already. Like I said before the only thing I can think of is he loves the college experience.

It's his choice and he can do whatever he wants...
 

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This is flat out STUPID!! He can ALWAYS get his degree, but how often do you get the chance to be the #1 overall NFL draft pick? It wasnt even aquestion of "if" he'd be a #1 pick, it was "who" was going to try and move up to that spot!!

Ok, so Bradford did the same thing and it worked out, great, but obvious common sense knows that was a clear annomoly, and more based on the fact that it was a weak QB class and the Rams didnt want to pay a DT (Suh) #1overall money.

Just doesn't make any sense whatsoever. If he never had any ambtion to play in the NFL (not possible btw if you play FB), then ok I could live with it, but it is the ULTIMATE dream.
 

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Why do some people decide what is stupid and right for others? Luck wanted to stay in school, enjoy the college experience (for some, there'snothing better) and not enter the effed up business world that is the NFL just yet. BFD. That is not stupid nor moronic...it's called a person choosing to be happy.

For some, making money makes them happy. For others, it doesn't. Everybody's different. Seriously, if he loses 8 million or whatever, what difference does it make down the line, when you have a 60 million or a 100 million dollar contract or whatever he'll end up signing years from now? When you're that rich, there's only one thing money won't be able to buy - and that's one more year of playing college football, where you are king; where you go to class, play football, enjoy the sunshine, bang the hottest co-eds on campus, and generally enjoy a carefree life.

Cmpare that to the NFL, where you're in meetings half the day, where you're on a POS team (Carolina) on a POS franchise, surrounding by crap talent, throwing the ball to the biggest malcontent athlete on the planet (Steve Smith) and a bunch of nobodies.

Hmmmm, I loved college, and if I were as comfortable as he is financially, I'd make the same choice. Call me a moron all you want, but I'd choose whatever makes me happy. So did Luck, and good on him...
 

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Good for him. I love that an athlete is willing to give up some money to return to school. He's getting a great education, is on a great team. Why not stay? I'd rather play for a legit top 5 then go and play for the ****ty Carolina Panthers and get his brains beaten in. I don't really see why people are appauld by this.
 

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lol I like how there are some people who are saying it's a bad decision for Luck to stay at Stanford and some people who are saying the same thing about Rudolph going to the NFL.
 

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Astounding how even on an ND-related board Money is the only imaginable value. I could have earned a lot more cold cash in industry than teaching. Other things had importance. And happiness followed. Go for your own dreams young man.
 

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He is nuts risking injury and losing the #1 spot. However I highly admire his decision. He'll be a better QB for it and whatever money he might lose now, he'll make up in spades down the road.

I think its also been proven that staying your senior year as a QB helps you greatly.
 

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From a business standpoint this is definitely a headscratcher, but that NFL money can't last forever especially if he fizzles out or gets injured once in the NFL. That Stanford on the other hand lasts a lifetime. I truly admire his decision and look forward to kicking his a** next year. In order to be the best you have to beat the best!
 

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Money is not the main motivation for lots of people

Money is not the main motivation for lots of people

Luck clearly, and it will not surprise me if Harbaugh takes less money to go where he wants ... or not to go anywhere. Both of them really love being at Stanford and that accounts for something.
I was thinking the same thing, but that is equally strange to me considering that Miami is reportedly offering $6-8 mil a year. How can you walk away from that kind of money?
 

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I can understand a player not wanting to go to the death trap that Carolina appears to be right now. But I sort of question what kind of shape Stanford will be in with what looks to be 7 starters graduating (according to the teams website) on offense, and of course Harbaugh leaving.

Luck must really love college life and value his education.
 

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Thank you!

Thank you!

Good to see a post with some common sense (Old Man Mike, too). Money is not what motivates some people, and just because you cannot understand that, does not make the person stupid or moronic. Good grief!

Why do some people decide what is stupid and right for others? Luck wanted to stay in school, enjoy the college experience (for some, there'snothing better) and not enter the effed up business world that is the NFL just yet. BFD. That is not stupid nor moronic...it's called a person choosing to be happy.

For some, making money makes them happy. For others, it doesn't. Everybody's different. Seriously, if he loses 8 million or whatever, what difference does it make down the line, when you have a 60 million or a 100 million dollar contract or whatever he'll end up signing years from now? When you're that rich, there's only one thing money won't be able to buy - and that's one more year of playing college football, where you are king; where you go to class, play football, enjoy the sunshine, bang the hottest co-eds on campus, and generally enjoy a carefree life.

Cmpare that to the NFL, where you're in meetings half the day, where you're on a POS team (Carolina) on a POS franchise, surrounding by crap talent, throwing the ball to the biggest malcontent athlete on the planet (Steve Smith) and a bunch of nobodies.

Hmmmm, I loved college, and if I were as comfortable as he is financially, I'd make the same choice. Call me a moron all you want, but I'd choose whatever makes me happy. So did Luck, and good on him...
 

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They have recuited well

They have recuited well

with Luck returning, they will be formidable again.

I can understand a player not wanting to go to the death trap that Carolina appears to be right now. But I sort of question what kind of shape Stanford will be in with what looks to be 7 starters graduating (according to the teams website) on offense, and of course Harbaugh leaving.

Luck must really love college life and value his education.
 

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Why do some people decide what is stupid and right for others? Luck wanted to stay in school, enjoy the college experience (for some, there'snothing better) and not enter the effed up business world that is the NFL just yet. BFD. That is not stupid nor moronic...it's called a person choosing to be happy.

For some, making money makes them happy. For others, it doesn't. Everybody's different. Seriously, if he loses 8 million or whatever, what difference does it make down the line, when you have a 60 million or a 100 million dollar contract or whatever he'll end up signing years from now? When you're that rich, there's only one thing money won't be able to buy - and that's one more year of playing college football, where you are king; where you go to class, play football, enjoy the sunshine, bang the hottest co-eds on campus, and generally enjoy a carefree life.

Cmpare that to the NFL, where you're in meetings half the day, where you're on a POS team (Carolina) on a POS franchise, surrounding by crap talent, throwing the ball to the biggest malcontent athlete on the planet (Steve Smith) and a bunch of nobodies.

Hmmmm, I loved college, and if I were as comfortable as he is financially, I'd make the same choice. Call me a moron all you want, but I'd choose whatever makes me happy. So did Luck, and good on him...

Couldn't agree more! Plus, it is a once in a lifetime opportunity to win a collegiate National Championship. Maybe he also wants a shot at the title next year.

All the stuff NDinL.A. said above plus, Palo Alto is a beautiful place to live and Stanford has an amazing campus. Great student body and just an overall great experience on campus. I think it is great to see him put other things ahead of the almighty dollar. He will be rich some day. If not from football, he has a freakin' degree from Stanford. I doubt he will be hurting for cash.
 

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Couldn't agree more! Plus, it is a once in a lifetime opportunity to win a collegiate National Championship. Maybe he also wants a shot at the title next year.

All the stuff NDinL.A. said above plus, Palo Alto is a beautiful place to live and Stanford has an amazing campus. Great student body and just an overall great experience on campus. I think it is great to see him put other things ahead of the almighty dollar. He will be rich some day. If not from football, he has a freakin' degree from Stanford. I doubt he will be hurting for cash.

Its not alll about the money. Football is a dangerous sport, and all it takes is one collision to end his career (It happened to me...). Thats why this IMO is STUPID. it doesn't matter that its 10 or 50 million in my mind. The point of him being a number 1 draft pick just guarentees he will make millions.

I certainly respect his decision, as I am sure everybody else who thinks the decision is stupid. Its his decision, and only his decision to make.... That being said, if his DREAM was to play in the NFL, why risk it when you are the best already?

just my 2 cents though.....
 

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I didn't see him play much but in the little that I have seen... I wasn't that impressed. I was more impressed by his OL. He seems like a solid QB, not a great QB.

To me, if you're a guaranteed top 10 pick... you go!!! To much at risk and that is pretty much the definition of a loose loose situation. He can't be rated any higher than he is right now and if he gets hurt in college I seriously doubt his insurance will come anywhere near what he would have been guaranteed in the pros.

People are right... a Stanford degree will last him a lifetime... but please tell me why he can't complete it over a couple of off seasons like other players have done.
 

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Couldn't agree more! Plus, it is a once in a lifetime opportunity to win a collegiate National Championship. Maybe he also wants a shot at the title next year.

All the stuff NDinL.A. said above plus, Palo Alto is a beautiful place to live and Stanford has an amazing campus. Great student body and just an overall great experience on campus. I think it is great to see him put other things ahead of the almighty dollar. He will be rich some day. If not from football, he has a freakin' degree from Stanford. I doubt he will be hurting for cash.

Ha ha, I actually thought of you when I wrote that post! Considering how you are one of the happiest people I know, a person completely unconsumed by the almighty dollar. (I'll shoot that reply soon).
 

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Hope he doesnt pull a Jake Locker and go from #1 overall pick to a likely 2nd rounder.
 

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I didn't see him play much but in the little that I have seen... I wasn't that impressed. I was more impressed by his OL. He seems like a solid QB, not a great QB.

To me, if you're a guaranteed top 10 pick... you go!!! To much at risk and that is pretty much the definition of a loose loose situation. He can't be rated any higher than he is right now and if he gets hurt in college I seriously doubt his insurance will come anywhere near what he would have been guaranteed in the pros.

People are right... a Stanford degree will last him a lifetime... but please tell me why he can't complete it over a couple of off seasons like other players have done.

See personally, I have no problem with your take. My problem (and I believe Mike and GoIrish et al) was that people saying he was stupid and a moron for doing it. To each his own. It is your opinion that he should have went and you would have went...COOL! I have no problem with that at all (I said that Kyle should go if he felt it was in his best interest). But if a guy wants to return to college and get his degree and all the things that come with playing college football - things you simply cannot replicate later on in life - then he shouldn't be called a moron.

Oh, but I disagree with your assessment on his talent level. Luck is a special player and has everything you want in a QB, including some surprising speed. He'll prob struggle like every young QB, but I think he'll be a stud on the next level. Just my opinion though...
 

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This is crazy, I'm all for finishing school...however a almost guartee #1 choice?!! Harbaugh has to be coming back...
 

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I only care about this situation for three reasons. 1) We get Amir 2) We get Niklas 3) Harbaugh goes to the NFL to further sink scUM and stop competing for the great student athletes both ND and Stanford covet. I am glad for Luck and it is refreshing the sports = money sentiment does not ALWAYS win. Great quote from Jerry Maguire (ok movie but it was a chick flick)

"Rod I'm telling you to be the best version of you, to get back to the guy who first started playing this game. Way back when you were a kid. It wasn't just about the money, was it?...Was it?"

Bottom line, love the good feelings from sports stories like this one, just hope the three reasons above still come true...
 

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Ryan Mallet is going pro, cant help but think this had a part in his decision
 
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