KSU-Syracuse

[NDinL.A.]

At the half, it's 14-14.

This game has significance to ND b/c of the recruitment of one Ishaq Williams. No one knows if a Syracuse loss hurts them with Ishaq or not, but it certainly can't help them. Hopefully KSU wins and ND wins as well!

 

[The Polish Irishman]

Chris Harper looks good. I thought he wanted to be a QB?

 

[irishff1014]

Syracuse is now winning not good for us.

 

[Fan of the Irish]

K State's run defense is non existant

 

[Irish Man3]

Actually turning into a pretty good game. I dont think Ishaq will base his 40 year plan on one game but I agree that it could certainly help.

 

[NewEnglandGuy]

Hard game to watch because of my bias (a 'Cuse loss cant help them recruit)...KState D looks worse then us last year!

 

[Irish Man3]

KSU called for unsportsmanlike conduct after a TD and it most likely cost them the game. Bad call in my mind and just cost me 21 confidence points. Damn it!!

 

[NewEnglandGuy]

Wow...if I were the announcer of this game, I would use that soap box to crucify the ref that called it.

Just unreal. I am not a fan of discussions that blame officials, but when a call determines a game and it is using the letter of the law incorrectly, I am totally against it. After a well played game such as this, all the talk will be about the "call." You know ESPNs 30 second highlight clip will be 15 seconds of that play, gesture, and call. Unfortunate.

 

[KPENN]

Awful call

 

[IrishMoore1]

According to the rule book, if the player does anything that brings attention to himself after the TD, it is considered unsportsmanlike conduct. It was actually the right call by the ref. Saluting can be considered bring attention to oneself. Blame KSU WR for that one.

 

[dshans]

Hard game to watch because of my bias (a 'Cuse loss can't help them recruit)

Gotta agree. My twin sister, her husband and their son graduated from Syracuse. Bragging rights and all that claptrap. The recruiting angle is just another facet.

I feel bad that KSU was denied a realistically possible tie due to a ticky-tacky, "by-the-book" excessive celebration penalty.

I just hope that ND crushes the Orange in basketball the rest of my life!

 

[NDinL.A.]

According to the rule book, if the player does anything that brings attention to himself after the TD, it is considered unsportsmanlike conduct. It was actually the right call by the ref. Saluting can be considered bring attention to oneself. Blame KSU WR for that one.

I disagree bro. I thought it was a horsesh!t call. Spirit of the rule, time it happened, context, etc etc etc.

If you watched the entire game, there was a TON of celebrating by the Syracuse players. Just a few plays earlier a Syracuse player tackled the QB and brought WAY more attention to himself that a friggin salute to the crowd. Hell, the funniest play of the game came when a Syracuse DB got burned deep, but the KSU QB underthrew his receiver allowing the DB to catch him and knock the ball away. He celebrated big time...to the point that he pulled up with an injury when he stepped wrong!!! We were laughing our asses off!

Now, you tell me...how is saluting the crowd any different than what those other knuckleheads were doing ALL GAME LONG??? If the refs had been calling it by the book the entire game, then I understand. But what the KCU player did was MILD in comparison to what players all across the country do all the time (especially at USC; and wait until you see Miami tomorrow).

Pathetic call.

 

[johnnykillz]

I disagree bro. I thought it was a horsesh!t call. Spirit of the rule, time it happened, context, etc etc etc.

If you watched the entire game, there was a TON of celebrating by the Syracuse players. Just a few plays earlier a Syracuse player tackled the QB and brought WAY more attention to himself that a friggin salute to the crowd. Hell, the funniest play of the game came when a Syracuse DB got burned deep, but the KSU QB underthrew his receiver allowing the DB to catch him and knock the ball away. He celebrated big time...to the point that he pulled up with an injury when he stepped wrong!!! We were laughing our asses off!

Now, you tell me...how is saluting the crowd any different than what those other knuckleheads were doing ALL GAME LONG??? If the refs had been calling it by the book the entire game, then I understand. But what the KCU player did was MILD in comparison to what players all across the country do all the time (especially at USC; and wait until you see Miami tomorrow).

Pathetic call.

I agree in full. I was so angry 45 minutes ago. And after reading this, you've managed to rehash my emotions. The officials made the decision to pick which team won the KSU and Syracuse game.

Shame on them!

 

[NewEnglandGuy]

Common sense is an attribute that should be applied to any "letter of the law." Just because a player scores a touchdown does not mean they should be able to do nothing other than: a) knee to "pray" b) hand the ball to the ref c) jump in the air with another player d) get tackled by entire team....etc

Think of all the "first down" gestures players make after 3 yard catches or 1 yard runs...or what about defenders flexing after tackles. You would think TDs warrant some enthusiasm. Now I know what the rule trys to prevent (30 for 30 showed the garbage the thugs at the U used to do), but that call effectively decided the game. What a let down after watching good football for a couple hours. Similar to working on a puzzle only to have someone else finish it for you...bush league

 

[Irish Man3]

If anyone is watching the Music City Bowl and just saw Gerald Jones catch that TD and then celebrate, that makes what the KSU reciever did look like less than nothing.

That was a terrible call through and through.

 

[Irish Rogue]

It's a shame the refs decided the outcome of the game, not saying KU wins but don't make that call unless it is blatant taunting or showboating. Wonder what conference the officials were from?

 

[NewEnglandGuy]

If anyone is watching the Music City Bowl and just saw Gerald Jones catch that TD and then celebrate, that makes what the KSU reciever did look like less than nothing.

That was a terrible call through and through.

haha I just saw that. A dance, spike, and was that a double salute? whatever it was it lasted about 5 seconds

Alright Im done now, I will only bitter if we lose IShaq, then I will really blame the ref! (sarcasm)

BK and company take care of business none of this will matter...though you have to feel for the K State kids to put in all that work for a 40something year old guy in NYC to give life lessons on how it is not always fair.

 

[kmoose]

It's a shame the refs decided the outcome of the game

The refs did not decide the outcome of this game. I just saw the highlight on ESPN. On the two point conversion the receiver was open, the QB had plenty of time and just flat out missed him. Make even a decent throw there, and the refs had nothing to do with the outcome of the game.

 

[Irish Man3]

The refs did not decide the outcome of this game. I just saw the highlight on ESPN. On the two point conversion the receiver was open, the QB had plenty of time and just flat out missed him. Make even a decent throw there, and the refs had nothing to do with the outcome of the game.

Disagree sir. When your talking about one chance to put the ball in the endzone, 15 yards makes a huge difference. Play calling is a lot different and it is much easier to execute. Just saying bro...

 

[kmoose]

Disagree sir. When your talking about one chance to put the ball in the endzone, 15 yards makes a huge difference. Play calling is a lot different and it is much easier to execute. Just saying bro...

I know what you're saying, and I agree that it made it much more difficult. But none of that changes the fact that they called a play where the receiver was open, and the QB just flat out missed him on the throw. A 15 yard FG is much easier to make than a 30 yarder. But you still blame the kicker, if he misses a 30 yarder where the snap and hold were perfect, and there was no pressure.

 

[Irish Rogue]

I know what you're saying, and I agree that it made it much more difficult. But none of that changes the fact that they called a play where the receiver was open, and the QB just flat out missed him on the throw. A 15 yard FG is much easier to make than a 30 yarder. But you still blame the kicker, if he misses a 30 yarder where the snap and hold were perfect, and there was no pressure.

No comparison, the point is that the refs made a lousy call, which put KU at a huge disadvantage. The ref should have not made that call.

 

[kmoose]

No comparison, the point is that the refs made a lousy call, which put KU at a huge disadvantage. The ref should have not made that call.

I completely agree about it being a bad call. But the QB's lack of ability to hit an open receiver is what lost the game, not the call.