Kapron Lewis Moore

[woolybug25]

I feel terrible for KLM. He is a very important player for our defense and we simply wont be able to play dominant run D without him. I feel like I jinxed the kid when I said that "I had a weird feeling that he wouldn't get a 5th year". Now that is a lot more likely if the young guys dramatically improve. The young guys will certainly get enough playing time to do just that, but I am so disappointed that this experience will come at the expense of KLM.

Here's hoping my "feeling" was just a bad breakfast burrito.

 

[Rambler09]

Navy is the game where we will need him the most. Shoot. This is not good. I want to believe Kelly that EJ will see some snaps but he also said that last week... and EJ didn't play against USC. KLM is a stud and will be sorely missed. It's time for Tuitt and Lynch to step up their game.

It's really a good thing that we made recruiting the DL a top priority again this year.

 

[Whiskeyjack]

Keith Arnold's recent article on KLM's injury can be found here.

 

[jason_h537]

I feel terrible for KLM. He is a very important player for our defense and we simply wont be able to play dominant run D without him. I feel like I jinxed the kid when I said that "I had a weird feeling that he wouldn't get a 5th year". Now that is a lot more likely if the young guys dramatically improve. The young guys will certainly get enough playing time to do just that, but I am so disappointed that this experience will come at the expense of KLM.

Here's hoping my "feeling" was just a bad breakfast burrito.

You had a "feeling" KLM will not get a 5th year? You need to lay off the pipe

 

[woolybug25]

You had a "feeling" KLM will not get a 5th year? You need to lay off the pipe

I do, eh? If he is out for the entire year and Kelly isn't sure about his long term health, the young guys (Tuitt, Lynch, Niklas, Shembo, etc) get a ton of experience in the second half of the season and play well, and we get a strong DL line class together. Then why wouldn't Kelly take another defensive lineman or 6th reciever for this class over giving KLM a 5th year? Lynch and Tuitt will have a ton of game experience at that point.

I thought I was crazy when I had a feeling about it, but this injury makes it much more likely. If anything, maybe I should be picking the pipe up more (if that is even possible).

 

[jason_h537]

I do, eh? If he is out for the entire year and Kelly isn't sure about his long term health, the young guys (Tuitt, Lynch, Niklas, Shembo, etc) get a ton of experience in the second half of the season and play well, and we get a strong DL line class together. Then why wouldn't Kelly take another defensive lineman or 6th reciever for this class over giving KLM a 5th year? Lynch and Tuitt will have a ton of game experience at that point.

I thought I was crazy when I had a feeling about it, but this injury makes it much more likely. If anything, maybe I should be picking the pipe up more (if that is even possible).

So because he is out 4-6 months he will not be asked back? Did you see the USC game. USC ran right at Tuitt and Lynch and killed them. You are suggesting that a season ending injury on the best and most experienced d-lineman with eligibility left will not be asked back. KLM gets asked back first.

That is like saying Kelly will not ask Te'o to return for a 4th year because we have talent like Councell, Ishaq, Niklas, and Shembo. Yes, you are crazy.

 

[woolybug25]

So because he is out 4-6 months he will not be asked back? Did you see the USC game. USC ran right at Tuitt and Lynch and killed them. You are suggesting that a season ending injury on the best and most experienced d-lineman with eligibility left will not be asked back. KLM gets asked back first.

That is like saying Kelly will not ask Te'o to return for a 4th year because we have talent like Councell, Ishaq, Niklas, and Shembo. Yes, you are crazy.

You are the one that needs to put down the pipe if you think KLM is comparable to Teo. I love the kid, but he is no Teo. How the young guys played against Navy wont have any input one way or the other, how they are playing by year's end most certianly will. If Lynch and Tuitt are playing at a level where KLM wouldn't be starting over them anyway, and we have a solid DL class, then why would he hold a spot for additional depth vs position of need? If the coaches don't feel that he will be as exposive after the injury and all these things happen. Consider him done.

Not saying I like it, just that I think it's a possibility.

 

[jason_h537]

You are the one that needs to put down the pipe if you think KLM is comparable to Teo. I love the kid, but he is no Teo. How the young guys played against Navy wont have any input one way or the other, how they are playing by year's end most certianly will. If Lynch and Tuitt are playing at a level where KLM wouldn't be starting over them anyway, and we have a solid DL class, then why would he hold a spot for additional depth vs position of need? If the coaches don't feel that he will be as exposive after the injury and all these things happen. Consider him done.

Not saying I like it, just that I think it's a possibility.

But it is not a possibility. That is why you are crazy. You are saying hypothetical situations that will not happen. KLM is very comparable to Te'o and the argument can be made that the great run D of the season was directly attributable to his and EJ's play. You are talking complete nonsense. You are saying that it is possible that Kelly will not ask back a 3 year starting DE that DOMINATES against the run because there are some talented young guys. BTW only 2 of which have any game experience.

 

[Irish Man3]

KLM is welcomed back with open arms, no questions asked. Lynch and Tuitt may have higher ceilings, but at this point, and moving into next year, it's not even close. KLM is our best defensive lineman. Don't understand the argument.

 

[woolybug25]

But it is not a possibility. That is why you are crazy. You are saying hypothetical situations that will not happen. KLM is very comparable to Te'o and the argument can be made that the great run D of the season was directly attributable to his and EJ's play. You are talking complete nonsense. You are saying that it is possible that Kelly will not ask back a 3 year starting DE that DOMINATES against the run because there are some talented young guys. BTW only 2 of which have any game experience.

They have 5 more weeks of game time, but will be playing more than they have so far. KLM wasn't as good as he is now as a freshmen, and these young guys will be significantly better by next year. We have great depth at the position and are bringing in more in this class. You are also wrong about only 2 having experience, every player I listed have seen game time. We also have a lot of needs we need to address and not enough spots to do so.

KLM is no where near as important to this defense as Teo is. If you believe that, then we will have to simply disagree on that.

While KLM is certianly good at the run, in fact our best player against the run, he is not DOMINATING, and if Kelly doesn't feel like he will be as explosive after the injury then he could have concern about him continuing to play at that level.

Like I said, it was a feeling that I had no idea why it would make sense, but it is all coming more clear now. Saying that ANY player is guaranteed for a 5th year has made people look silly time and time again. The coaches expectations of players are usually no where near what we think they are as fans.

 

[woolybug25]

KLM is welcomed back with open arms, no questions asked. Lynch and Tuitt may have higher ceilings, but at this point, and moving into next year, it's not even close. KLM is our best defensive lineman. Don't understand the argument.

It's not an argument, it was a feeling that I have that I expressed in another thread that now has more legs with this info. You dont know any of the back story, so you are simply out of your element, dude.

 

[Irish Man3]

It's not an argument, it was a feeling that I have that I expressed in another thread that now has more legs with this info. You don't know any of the back story, so you are simply out of your element, dude.

I read everything I had to read in this thread to form an opinion, dude. I don't agree with a single thing you've said in this thread, dude. Hence the reason I posted my response in this thread.

Again, KLM is the heart and soul of our defensive line.

 

[woolybug25]

I read everything I had to read in this thread to form an opinion, dude. I don't agree with a single thing you've said in this thread, dude. Hence the reason I posted my response in this thread.

Again, KLM is the heart and soul of our defensive line.

Then your reading comprehension is sh!t, because I clearly stated that it was in ANOTHER thread.

You clearly showed that you don't know what the hell you are talking about with Oline recruiting in the "who's next" thread, so why should anybody think that you are an expert and know what Kelly is thinking with dline?

 

[Old Man Mike]

Regardless of who's "right" about anything, this thread needs a bit of therapy. If anyone is into drugs one could try Gonadotropin-releasing Hormone Antagonists, which as we all know block Lutinising Hormone which in turns markedly reduces testosterone release.

The other commonly understood ways of reducing testosterone are falling in love and fatherhood. Could try those, I suppose.....

 

[Irish Man3]

Then your reading comprehension is sh!t, because I clearly stated that it was in ANOTHER thread.

You clearly showed that you don't know what the hell you are talking about with Oline recruiting in the "who's next" thread, so why should anybody think that you are an expert and know what Kelly is thinking with dline?

Don't really need to be an expert at anything to see that your logic is flawed. Although you may be right, let's get rid of one of our most experienced team leaders on defense because we have promising freshman that have half a year in the book. That logic is perfect.