Jonathan Martin-Richie Incognito

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Not the best way to live up to that last name...
 

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Incognito will never play another down in the NFL again, and I expect swift rule changes to be put in place by the NFL. You can't have an anti bullying campaign, and then allow things like this to happen.
 

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his dad went onto a dolphins message board and was saying sh#t about martin and hoping the coaches die of aids etc...the family is messed up..

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Winner of the Brian Murray Award as the best high school offensive lineman in Arizona, Incognito arrived at Nebraska as a prized recruit and earned a starting job as a redshirt freshman. He started 13 of 14 games at left tackle during the 2002 season. The one start he missed was against Iowa State, when Incognito was forced to sit out the first half after being ejected for fighting in a game against Penn State the week before.

The following spring, before his redshirt sophomore season, Incognito was suspended indefinitely by Huskers coach Frank Solich, for reasons that were never reported.

In February 2004, Incognito was charged with three counts of assault after a fight at a party. He was found guilty on one charge of misdemeanor assault and forced to pay a $500 fine.

Before his redshirt junior season, Incognito was suspended by Bill Callahan for repeated violations of team rules. Two weeks later, Incognito withdrew from the university. He later enrolled at Oregon, but was dismissed from the program after only one week. "There were conditions we had set down and set forth for him to be admitted to our program, and they were not met," then–Oregon head coach Mike Bellotti told The Oregonian. That spring, Incognito declared for the 2005 NFL draft
During his five-year stretch with St. Louis, Incognito had several run-ins with fans, teammates, coaches, and opposing players. There were reports of fights with teammates during training camp, but most of the controversy around Incognito stemmed from his confrontations with opponents. Incognito’s temperament and style of play earned him a reputation as one of the league’s dirtiest players, a title that became quasi-official after a 2009 Sporting News player poll declared him exactly that. Later that season, Incognito was benched by head coach Steve Spagnuolo after incurring two personal fouls in the first half of a game against the Tennessee Titans. He was released two days later.

In August of this year, it was reported that Incognito punched a hotel security guard at Liv night club following a Miami Heat playoff game, but later that month, NFL.com’s Jeff Darlington wrote that three witnesses maintained that Incognito was actually attempting to defuse the situation and was the one who reported the assault to police.

In that same story, published shortly after an on-field incident during which Texans defensive lineman Antonio Smith swung his helmet at Incognito during a preseason game, Incognito revealed many of the personal problems that he dealt with earlier in his career. "Pretty much every facet of my life was in turmoil, and I was basically waging war against myself at that time," Incognito said. He went on to tell Darlington that although he regularly smoked marijuana in the past, he had gone four years without it, and mediation and other relaxation methods had helped alleviate many of his anger issues.
 

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Incognito has always been a bum. Feel bad for Martin here.
 

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If I were Martin I would have come to practice with a nice firearm and told Richie it ends today or IT ENDS TODAY.
 
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If I were Martin I would have come to practice with a nice firearm and told Richie it ends today or IT ENDS TODAY.

The fact that Incognito didn't get his head bashed in makes me think this isn't just confined to these two. I feel like guys like "Gun Trafficking" Pouncey and other shitheads on the team are being asses as well.
 

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PTFO Incognito!

I've always felt like he was a cancer on the Phins. Anyone who watched Hard Knocks last year got to see Incognito being a complete A-HOLE to a few rookies in the locker room.
 

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If you go to Incognito's pictures on twitter, it goes back for a while. He was making fun of Martin when he saw Martin on TV one time and also referred to him as "big weirdo" when he could barely fit in a go-kart.

Does Martin have grounds for any case against Incognito here?
 
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He makes Lattimer and Romanowski look like angels.
 

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Do we have any details on what actually occurred between the two or is it all speculation at this point?
 

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Do we have any details on what actually occurred between the two or is it all speculation at this point?

I believe that Martin turned over text messages and voicemails to the league that are pretty damning which is what caused the suspension.
 

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I believe that Martin turned over text messages and voicemails to the league that are pretty damning which is what caused the suspension.

I'll be interested to see what comes out... is what i mean.
 

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Adam Schefter ‏@AdamSchefter 41s
NFL has heard Richie Incognito's VM to Jonathan Martin. Dolphins have heard the voice mail.

Adam Schefter ‏@AdamSchefter 1m
4. Incognito to Martin, all on same VM in April 2013: "(Expletive) you, you're still a rookie. I'll kill you."

Adam Schefter ‏@AdamSchefter 27s
3. Incognito VM to Martin: "(I'm going to) slap your (expletive) mouth. (I'm going to) slap your real mother across the face (laughter).

Adam Schefter ‏@AdamSchefter 59s
2. More Incognito to Martin: "I saw you on Twitter, you been training ten weeks. (I want to) (expletive) in your (expl) mouth....

Adam Schefter ‏@AdamSchefter 1m
1: Richie Incognito left this VM for Jonathan Martin in April 2013: "Hey, wassup, you half n----- piece of (expletive)...

https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter
 

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WOW... Hey Richie, aren't you like thirty?? talk about a freaking child.
 

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like the rest of the overpaid celebrity/athletes, Incognito will acquiesce, apologize "if he has offended anyone"...go into some sort of treatment center...for some as yet TBD mental illness, dependency etc....and will then dedicate his life to God and charity and ask for forgiveness.

all the while, the nfl will make some announcement of their renewed focus on an anti bullying campaign with the poll tested PSA's

blablalbalabla

sooo sick of these types of stories, pro athletes/celebs with the opportunities of a lifetime who just whatever reason dont ever do the right thing. their all full of ****.

we've all seen this story before and we know what will happen next and how it all ends.
 

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Seems like an odd situation. Here's the thing... I have no doubt that Incognito is a piece of crap. And he has this coming and should never play again in the NFL.

The weird part comes with Martin. I doubt we'll ever get a full, accurate side on what's going on with him... but there has been some really strange stuff floating around about him.
 

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Seems like an odd situation. Here's the thing... I have no doubt that Incognito is a piece of crap. And he has this coming and should never play again in the NFL.

The weird part comes with Martin. I doubt we'll ever get a full, accurate side on what's going on with him... but there has been some really strange stuff floating around about him.

Strange stuff?
 

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All I know is if Martin was from Notre Dame the outcry from the public would be, "suck it up big boy. So sorry you're getting bullied like a little girl." Honestly, am I the only one that thinks it would play out this way?

This is a crazy, sad story too but I still can't believe people dislike Teo and blame him for what happened last year. That POS Kekua should be caned and whipped for what he did to Teo and ND. You can't tell me what happened didn't effect the 'Bama game. Okay, I'm getting off topic... but just sayin'
 
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NOT SUGGESTING THIS AT ALL,

but a lot of blog reports or opinion pieces are suggesting martin is gay, which led to the blow up of all this. Again not suggesting that, but just saying that idea is out there.
 
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If you go to Incognito's pictures on twitter, it goes back for a while. He was making fun of Martin when he saw Martin on TV one time and also referred to him as "big weirdo" when he could barely fit in a go-kart.

Does Martin have grounds for any case against Incognito here?

Leaving death threats towards someone and threatening their family over the phone is grounds for assault I believe.
 
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NOT SUGGESTING THIS AT ALL,

but a lot of blog reports or opinion pieces are suggesting martin is gay, which led to the blow up of all this. Again not suggesting that, but just saying that idea is out there.

Hate crime. Call the FBI.
 

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NOT SUGGESTING THIS AT ALL,

but a lot of blog reports or opinion pieces are suggesting martin is gay, which led to the blow up of all this. Again not suggesting that, but just saying that idea is out there.

Hate crime. Call the FBI.

I'd say that makes it all that much worse and Incognito that much worse of a person if that is the case.
 
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I'd say that makes it all that much worse and Incognito that much worse of a person if that is the case.

Agreed. In that case the bullying not only hurts Martin but every gay athlete who was considering coming out of the closet.
 

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