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[GATTACA!]

Nice dodge. I don't remember asking if you would participate, but that doesn't answer my question.

"being okay with it", is defined as:

A. You have no problem with them disrupting the service in general.
B. You have no problem with them entering the church and vocally disrupting the service with their yelling.
C. You have no problem with them disrupting the service by their mere presence standing in the aisles rather than quietly taking a seat.
D. You have no problem with them sticking a phone in front of the minister and yelling at him.

Since you won't say you aren't okay with it, we'll just assume you are okay with it even if you wouldn't participate.

Not dodging. I’m trying to understand if you’re asking me if I’m ok with this instance of protesting or if you were asking me if I have a problem with people protesting at a church in general.

I don’t hold protesting at a church in higher regard than any other form of civil disobedience on private property. I.e. it’s not worse than if they had done this at a theater during a play to me.

Also it’s worth pointing out that this was targeted at a specific person not just people being mad during something like BLM and going in to protest just to make headlines for having done it at a church to be provocative.

These are NOT the same. I’m not comparing them at all. If there was a pastor that community found out was a pedophile would you have a problem with people interrupting service there and protesting in the church? Again not comparing the two situations but to me it’s a spectrum and I would have no problem with people protesting in that scenario.

 

[Blazers46]

That's awful. Just like what happened to Renee Good was awful.

It's easy to say FAFO but her life doesn't need to be reduced to that. Yes, she(or her wife)made a really bad decision but her life was full of tragedy.

The father of her first 2 kids died. Then she lost custody of those kids. After that it appears she just became lost. Has another kid with another guy. Moves to Canada. Decides she's a lesbian. Moves to Minnesota because it's a woke city or whatever. Shaves her head to be hard-core and dedicates her life to fighting ICE/Trump instead of being a mother to her child.

Just an all around tragedy.

Not that it matters, but I think you have the timeline and details is wrong.

She had two kids with her first husband and they divorced and he is still alive.

She had one kid with her other husband, and they separated.

She lost custody to her two kids after her first marriage.

Her second husband was rumored to have committed suicide sometime after they split as he dealt with a lot of PTSD.

I assume she still had that child if she dropped off one of them to school that day.

Sometimes we minimize these and classify these as a “FAFO” because that’s what it is. It’s tragic, but actions have consequences.

 

[RDU Irish]

Not dodging. I’m trying to understand if you’re asking me if I’m ok with this instance of protesting or if you were asking me if I have a problem with people protesting at a church in general.

I don’t hold protesting at a church in higher regard than any other form of civil disobedience on private property. I.e. it’s not worse than if they had done this at a theater during a play to me.

Also it’s worth pointing out that this was targeted at a specific person not just people being mad during something like BLM and going in to protest just to make headlines for having done it at a church to be provocative.

These are NOT the same. I’m not comparing them at all. If there was a pastor that community found out was a pedophile would you have a problem with people interrupting service there and protesting in the church? Again not comparing the two situations but to me it’s a spectrum and I would have no problem with people protesting in that scenario.

LOL - this says it all.

 

[Blazers46]

LOL - this says it all.

Never discount someone’s constitutionally protected right to go watch Avatar.

 

[RDU Irish]

Never discount someone’s constitutionally protected right to go watch Avatar.

He equates church with theater. All the larping theater kids' actions are on par with religion. Godlessness is at the core of this unrest. Just remember that next time the twinks and dinks throw WWJD at you.

 

[Blazers46]

He equates church with theater. All the larping theater kids' actions are on par with religion. Godlessness is at the core of this unrest. Just remember that next time the twinks and dinks throw WWJD at you.

Not only Godlessness but I have always argued there is fight against Godliness in general. They have sought to destroy the founding, Christianity is embedded and has deep roots in American history, it culture and values… that’s being trampled and “canceled” and just diluted with awful theology.

They only appease Muslims and other counter Christian values to destroy Christianity… and equate it to Fast and Furious 11.

 

[GATTACA!]

He equates church with theater. All the larping theater kids' actions are on par with religion. Godlessness is at the core of this unrest. Just remember that next time the twinks and dinks throw WWJD at you.

I equate church to any gathering of people. I don’t give extra outrage points to one group that’s praying vs another that’s listening to someone sing, holding a political rally, watching a sport, etc.

Yes the people giving deference to the book should be the ones concerning themselves with worrying about WJWD.

 

[RDU Irish]

Going to see Lady Gaga or Primus = receiving Holy Communion. Got it.

Go Irish.

 

[GATTACA!]

“Everyone should be treated equal.”

 

[RDU Irish]

Not only Godlessness but I have always argued there is fight against Godliness in general. They have sought to destroy the founding, Christianity is embedded and has deep roots in American history, it culture and values… that’s being trampled and “canceled” and just diluted with awful theology.

They only appease Muslims and other counter Christian values to destroy Christianity… and equate it to Fast and Furious 11.

100% - its not enough to allow degeneracy and debauchery, it must be celebrated while mocking those with traditional values and modesty.

 

[TorontoGold]

I equate church to any gathering of people. I don’t give extra outrage points to one group that’s praying vs another that’s listening to someone sing, holding a political rally, watching a sport, etc.

Yes the people giving deference to the book should be the ones concerning themselves with worrying about WJWD.

Now ask them to have that same smoke for a synagogue or mosque. Evangelists would join the Taliban if they were just "Christian".

 

[Blazers46]

Now ask them to have that same smoke for a synagogue or mosque. Evangelists would join the Taliban if they were just "Christian".

Link

 

[Blazers46]

I equate church to any gathering of people. I don’t give extra outrage points to one group that’s praying vs another that’s listening to someone sing, holding a political rally, watching a sport, etc.

The Constitution says hello. The Constitution deliberately elevates religious practice by naming it separately and protecting it against prohibition or interference in ways that secular activities aren’t. A law banning or restricting church services because they are religious (or disproportionately affecting them) would violate the Free Exercise Clause, whereas a similar restriction on a concert or rally would be analyzed under assembly/speech standards, which are generally less stringent unless content-based discrimination is involved. This isn’t about giving “extra outrage points” it’s about what the text and centuries of interpretation actually say. Law and Constitutionality are hard for you, I get it.

 

[Blazers46]

“Everyone should be treated equal.”
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Everyone maybe… everything, in this case, religion v secular activities, constitution and law not on your side… mind… blown.

 

[GATTACA!]

The Constitution says hello. The Constitution deliberately elevates religious practice by naming it separately and protecting it against prohibition or interference in ways that secular activities aren’t. A law banning or restricting church services because they are religious (or disproportionately affecting them) would violate the Free Exercise Clause, whereas a similar restriction on a concert or rally would be analyzed under assembly/speech standards, which are generally less stringent unless content-based discrimination is involved. This isn’t about giving “extra outrage points” it’s about what the text and centuries of interpretation actually say. Law and Constitutionality are hard for you, I get it.

Yes it is. Irish#1 was asking about my personal option, not the law.

 

[GATTACA!]

Everyone maybe… everything, in this case, religion v secular activities, constitution and law not on your side… mind… blown.

How many times have I said they ran the risk of getting charged for trespassing? I never denied they could be in legal trouble.

 

[Blazers46]

How many times have I said they ran the risk of getting charged for trespassing? I never denied they could be in legal trouble.

What are saying? That this is a non issue for you? Cool move on puppet.

 

[GATTACA!]

What are saying? That this is a non issue for you? Cool move on puppet.

Irish#1 asked me a question, I answered him. You move on. You’re the one that wrote the 4 paragraph reply.

 

[Blazers46]

Irish#1 asked me a question, I answered him. You move on. You’re the one that wrote the 4 paragraph reply.

Your response was to RDU who was responding to me. Thanks for continually be wrong though.

 

[GATTACA!]

Your response was to RDU who was responding to me. Thanks for continually be wrong though.

Irrelevant. It was not to you.

You’re butt hurt people protested at a church. We get it. Move on.

 

[TorontoGold]

Link

www.irishenvy.com

 

[Blazers46]

Irrelevant. It was not to you.

You’re butt hurt people protested at a church. We get it. Move on.

You are butt hurt that people are upset, we get it, you hate us… move on.

 

[Blazers46]

www.irishenvy.com

Receipts

 

[GATTACA!]

You are butt hurt that people are upset, we get it, you hate us… move on.

You're the one that's talking about shooting people and responding in fucking tomes lol.

 

[Blazers46]

You're the one that's talking about shooting people and responding in fucking tomes lol.

Yup, watch out.

 

[TorontoGold]

Receipts

He equates church with theater. All the larping theater kids' actions are on par with religion. Godlessness is at the core of this unrest. Just remember that next time the twinks and dinks throw WWJD at you.

Not only Godlessness but I have always argued there is fight against Godliness in general. They have sought to destroy the founding, Christianity is embedded and has deep roots in American history, it culture and values… that’s being trampled and “canceled” and just diluted with awful theology.

They only appease Muslims and other counter Christian values to destroy Christianity… and equate it to Fast and Furious 11.

100% - its not enough to allow degeneracy and debauchery, it must be celebrated while mocking those with traditional values and modesty.

If you wrote these Arabic and switched Christianity to Islam, you would be preaching the same shit the Taliban does. Fucking insane shit.

The future evangelicals want.

 

[Blazers46]

If you wrote these Arabic and switched Christianity to Islam, you would be preaching the same shit the Taliban does. Fucking insane shit.

This here proves my point. Vilify Christianity and reduce it to a militant Islamic group. Those protestors would not have heads anymore if they would have decided to encroach a church full of Taliban. Your point is fucking insane and your ax with Christianity and hatred toward them is evident.

The future evangelicals want.

Again. Lots of churches are already armed. This isn’t future it’s present dipshit. Which is why I have said if the protestors make this the norm it’s probably not going to end well for them. Thats not a threat or something i want, it’s reality. What’s wrong with an armed group of people INSIDE THEIR OWN BUILDING!! Your dumb. Sit this one out and save yourself some credibility. Such a dumb post.

 

[TorontoGold]

This here proves my point. Vilify Christianity and reduce it to a militant Islamic group. Those protestors would not have heads anymore if they would have decided to encroach a church full of Taliban. Your point is fucking insane and your ax with Christianity and hatred toward them is evident.

lolwut - I am saying the type of shit you're talking about is the same as radical militant islamists. My point is 100% correct, if I was to spawn you in as a poor person in Iraq or whatever and you started preaching out about society is waging a war on Christianity and it's godliness that is driving people to be bad and other poor Christians heard this and agreed, you guys would be forming a Taliban counterpart.

The religion is interchangeable, if a person who thinks the root of all evil is because of not adhering to their favorite religion and they do not have their material needs met (food/shelter) they will become militant. It's delusional to think that Christianity is the fix and that if everyone was just a good Christian everything would be hunky dory. You guys can't even do love thy neighbor with a more Christian nation.

Again. Lots of churches are already armed. This isn’t future it’s present dipshit. Which is why I have said if the protestors make this the norm it’s probably not going to end well for them. Thats not a threat or something i want, it’s reality. What’s wrong with an armed group of people INSIDE THEIR OWN BUILDING!! Your dumb. Sit this one out and save yourself some credibility. Such a dumb post.

lmao you see a picture of grandmas holding AR15's and you think I'm the dumb one. Holy hell. Security guards should have protection, but having your parish bring guns in is wild work. No one has ever accidently shot themselves, and a gun going off at church wouldn't totally psyche everyone out.

 

[Blazers46]

lolwut - I am saying the type of shit you're talking about is the same as radical militant islamists. My point is 100% correct, if I was to spawn you in as a poor person in Iraq or whatever and you started preaching out about society is waging a war on Christianity and it's godliness that is driving people to be bad and other poor Christians heard this and agreed, you guys would be forming a Taliban counterpart.

You lack receipts and proof of any of this besides your grudge against Christianity. Just because you say it doesn’t make it true. I have been to very poor parts of the planet. It’s just the opposite. I have seen with my own eyes that Christianity actually thrives in poverished areas or areas with less resources. A counter example is… drum roll… the United States.

The religion is interchangeable,

It’s not. Take poor kids sub Saharan Africa and in Latin America and even in Asia… no Taliban.

if a person who thinks the root of all evil is because of not adhering to their favorite religion and they do not have their material needs met (food/shelter) they will become militant.

Wrong. See above. Your hate shines brighter than you ignorance.

It's delusional to think that Christianity is the fix and that if everyone was just a good Christian everything would be hunky dory. You guys can't even do love thy neighbor with a more Christian nation.

If we stay on topic we are taking about a group of paid agitators going into private property to “cause trauma because that is what protest is all about”. You’re on the wrong side of this argument.

lmao you see a picture of grandmas holding AR15's and you think I'm the dumb one. Holy hell. Security guards should have protection, but having your parish bring guns in is wild work. No one has ever accidently shot themselves, and a gun going off at church wouldn't totally psyche everyone out.

Ignorance abounds. Security carry weapons. Your picture is obviously extreme for you own circle jerk shock value but congregants/members are not sitting down at the pew with the Bible and their AR. To be clearer Churches are armed, the security is armed and it’s done in a very discrete and safe way. I can tell you’ve never been to church.

 

[Irish#1]

You lack receipts and proof of any of this besides your grudge against Christianity. Just because you say it doesn’t make it true. I have been to very poor parts of the planet. It’s just the opposite. I have seen with my own eyes that Christianity actually thrives in poverished areas or areas with less resources. A counter example is… drum roll… the United States.

It’s not. Take poor kids sub Saharan Africa and in Latin America and even in Asia… no Taliban.

Wrong. See above. Your hate shines brighter than you ignorance.

If we stay on topic we are taking about a group of paid agitators going into private property to “cause trauma because that is what protest is all about”. You’re on the wrong side of this argument.

Ignorance abounds. Security carry weapons. Your picture is obviously extreme for you own circle jerk shock value but congregants/members are not sitting down at the pew with the Bible and their AR. To be clearer Churches are armed, the security is armed and it’s done in a very discrete and safe way. I can tell you’ve never been to church.

Toronto firing up the Vortex.