Immigration

[RDU Irish]

Russia Russia Russia!!

You are a hoot. Have you even admitted the Hunter laptop is NOT Russian disinformation yet?

Cats and dogs is more true than drinking bleach and fine people hoaxes so I think you can just enjoy some of your own medicine while this fleshes out. I know it is PROBABLY going to turn out to be true based exclusively on your team's reaction.

 

[RDU Irish]

This is your worst take yet, Canadian Geese should be culled. Horrible, horrible animals. I can't believe there isn't a conspiracy yet that Justin Trudeau isn't sending them to ruin the US because they worse then pigeons.

Finally something we can agree on. However, I would be arrested if I sped up and blasted through the flock blocking the drive through and these heathens are given a pass.

 

[TorontoGold]

Finally something we can agree on. However, I would be arrested if I sped up and blasted through the flock blocking the drive through and these heathens are given a pass.

You should be given a medal.

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

Russia Russia Russia!!

You are a hoot. Have you even admitted the Hunter laptop is NOT Russian disinformation yet?

Cats and dogs is more true than drinking bleach and fine people hoaxes so I think you can just enjoy some of your own medicine while this fleshes out. I know it is PROBABLY going to turn out to be true based exclusively on your team's reaction.

It’s not my opinion lmao. There is an DOJ indictment I linked above. 😂. And at least two people have posted tweets pushed by two social media people associated with the indicted company. Just need Time Poole to complete the set. But go on

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

This is your worst take yet, Canadian Geese should be culled. Horrible, horrible animals. I can't believe there isn't a conspiracy yet that Justin Trudeau isn't sending them to ruin the US because they worse then pigeons.

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

You should be given a medal.

 

[Irish#1]

https://www.npr.org/2024/03/08/1237103158/immigrants-are-less-likely-to-commit-crimes-than-us-born-americans-studies-find

I mean why pass on throwing red meat to the morons. Americans commit crimes at far greater rates than immigrants. I mean just last week we had another school shooting by an American using guns purchased in america but somehow it’s worse that immigrants killed Laken Riley. Whatever. Bigots gotta bigot somehow.

I mean lmao:
There is also state level research, that shows similar results: researchers at the CATO Institute, a libertarian think tank, looked into Texas in 2019. They found that undocumented immigrants were 37.1% less likely to be convicted of a crime.

We just had an American attempt to kill Tump. lol.

A quick google search of “Florida man” will reveal plenty of Americans doing some crazy stuff but hey Haitian immigrants in Ohio though…. Amirite?

You certainly have a flair for hyperbole. Americans commit crimes at a far greater rate because there are more Americans. Maybe in South Carolina they don't report on it, but it's in the news every day. Where did anyone say an immigrant killing Laken Riley was worse than Colt Gray shooting up Apalachee HS? The Apalachee shooting got far more coverage.

You're missing an obvious point. We already have enough crime to deal with. Dropping millions of additional people into the country just compounds the issue because police staffs and funding aren't increasing to deal with it let alone all the other problems that come with this. We could build some pretty decent shelters, clothe and feed the homeless with the money we're spending.

 

[TorontoGold]

You certainly have a flair for hyperbole. Americans commit crimes at a far greater rate because there are more Americans. Maybe in South Carolina they don't report on it, but it's in the news every day. Where did anyone say an immigrant killing Laken Riley was worse than Colt Gray shooting up Apalachee HS? The Apalachee shooting got far more coverage.

You're missing an obvious point. We already have enough crime to deal with. Dropping millions of additional people into the country just compounds the issue because police staffs and funding aren't increasing to deal with it let alone all the other problems that come with this. We could build some pretty decent shelters, clothe and feed the homeless with the money we're spending.

Rate Definition​

When two quantities of different units are compared and expressed as a ratio, we refer to it as 'Rate'. For example, if we say that a car travels at a speed of 100 miles per hour, then it means in one hour it covers 100 miles. Here, miles and hours are different units. This way of comparing two different units expressed as a single ratio is termed as 'Rate'.

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

You certainly have a flair for hyperbole. Americans commit crimes at a far greater rate because there are more Americans. Maybe in South Carolina they don't report on it, but it's in the news every day. Where did anyone say an immigrant killing Laken Riley was worse than Colt Gray shooting up Apalachee HS? The Apalachee shooting got far more coverage.

You're missing an obvious point. We already have enough crime to deal with. Dropping millions of additional people into the country just compounds the issue because police staffs and funding aren't increasing to deal with it let alone all the other problems that come with this. We could build some pretty decent shelters, clothe and feed the homeless with the money we're spending.

Whatever helps you I guess if you think the GOP would take the savings from caring for immigrants and use it for social welfare 😂

You are missing the point apparently that immigrants are not the boogeyman the right thinks they are. It’s yet another in the long line of subgroup to hate on because they can’t get enough. I don’t think you understand what rates are either lol.

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

Rate Definition​

When two quantities of different units are compared and expressed as a ratio, we refer to it as 'Rate'. For example, if we say that a car travels at a speed of 100 miles per hour, then it means in one hour it covers 100 miles. Here, miles and hours are different units. This way of comparing two different units expressed as a single ratio is termed as 'Rate'.

You mean rates are used to to compare apples to oranges? This won’t help the bigots sleep any better.

So if we say take the crime rate of two groups per 100k people we could pretty much compare them accurately. Right? Just like the links I provided? That say immigrants commit crime at half the rate natural born citizens do?

 

[TorontoGold]

You mean rates are used to to compare apples to oranges? This won’t help the bigots sleep any better.

So if we say take the crime rate of two groups per 100k people we could pretty much compare them accurately. Right? Just like the links I provided? That say immigrants commit crime at half the rate natural born citizens do?

I mean, it would be nice to see the discussion on what the Right actually intends on doing with the resources saved by not spending it on immigrants. Could you imagine all the social welfare programs they could fund! Since they always want to take care of homeless people and vets I'm sure they have a plan put together that would take care of those people, they wouldn't just use those classes of people to just be hateful.....right?

 

[Irish#1]

Whatever helps you I guess if you think the GOP would take the savings from caring for immigrants and use it for social welfare 😂

You are missing the point apparently that immigrants are not the boogeyman the right thinks they are. It’s yet another in the long line of subgroup to hate on because they can’t get enough. I don’t think you understand what rates are either lol.

No you missed the point. I never said and am not saying all immigrants are the boogeyman. You tried to make it like no ones talks about U.S. citizens killing U.S. citizens or cares if they do. That's BS, but whatever helps you.

Last time I checked, the Dems were in the WH and controlled the Senate. Why aren't they using it for social welfare?

 

[Irish#1]

Finally something we can agree on. However, I would be arrested if I sped up and blasted through the flock blocking the drive through and these heathens are given a pass.

If Trumps becomes president I bet he puts a tariff on every Canadian goose.

 

[NDVirginia19]

You mean rates are used to to compare apples to oranges? This won’t help the bigots sleep any better.

So if we say take the crime rate of two groups per 100k people we could pretty much compare them accurately. Right? Just like the links I provided? That say immigrants commit crime at half the rate natural born citizens do?

Well I mean by definition 100% of illegal immigrants have commited a crime. If you designate them as "assylum seekers" then that problem goes away

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

No you missed the point. I never said and am not saying all immigrants are the boogeyman. You tried to make it like no ones talks about U.S. citizens killing U.S. citizens or cares if they do. That's BS, but whatever helps you.

Last time I checked, the Dems were in the WH and controlled the Senate. Why aren't they using it for social welfare?

The right is t talking about anything but immigrants right now and blaming them for all kinds of things because that is what they want to be upset about and that is what is being pushed on the right side social media even though it’s complete bullshit the morons craving red meat get it served up by Tim Poole and Benny Johnson and Dave Rubin’s of the world. It’s quite clear. They arent upset at school shootings because as JDVance said it’s a fact of life now. No one is talking about the asssassination attempt? Why not? It spent barely a week in the news even though it was the prototypical disaffected young conservative white male with access to guns.

Nothing is getting done right now because the House is led by a bunch of idiots who are the least productive house in our history. They aren’t doing anything but fucking with Hunter and trying to impeach Biden. Now that this over they aren’t doing anything at all. I’m sure you understand the are in the majority and could send bills over to the Senate. Trying to blame the Senate and WH for not passing bills is hilarious. Why isn’t the House passing any bills because they don’t want to 😂

 

[Irish#1]

The right is t talking about anything but immigrants right now and blaming them for all kinds of things because that is what they want to be upset about and that is what is being pushed on the right side social media even though it’s complete bullshit the morons craving red meat get it served up by Tim Poole and Benny Johnson and Dave Rubin’s of the world. It’s quite clear. They arent upset at school shootings because as JDVance said it’s a fact of life now. No one is talking about the asssassination attempt? Why not? It spent barely a week in the news even though it was the prototypical disaffected young conservative white male with access to guns.

Nothing is getting done right now because the House is led by a bunch of idiots who are the least productive house in our history. They aren’t doing anything but fucking with Hunter and trying to impeach Biden. Now that this over they aren’t doing anything at all. I’m sure you understand the are in the majority and could send bills over to the Senate. Trying to blame the Senate and WH for not passing bills is hilarious. Why isn’t the House passing any bills because they don’t want to 😂

EO's baby!

 

[TorontoGold]

No you missed the point. I never said and am not saying all immigrants are the boogeyman. You tried to make it like no ones talks about U.S. citizens killing U.S. citizens or cares if they do. That's BS, but whatever helps you.

Last time I checked, the Dems were in the WH and controlled the Senate. Why aren't they using it for social welfare?

This a key point for my distaste for the Dems. They have routinely been in positions of power to actually inflict real policy wins to help people, and they consistently let their voters down. They have run on "At least we aren't Republican's" for three cycles now. They offer very little to their voters in terms of policy wins that it's no wonder that someone like RFK gets support.

It's fucking insane, they need to face a reckoning but Donald Trump keep lighting his dick on fire.

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

EO's baby!

If Biden started issuing EOs writ large y’all would be whining about that too. lol

 

[GATTACA!]

Russia Russia Russia!!

You are a hoot. Have you even admitted the Hunter laptop is NOT Russian disinformation yet?

Cats and dogs is more true than drinking bleach and fine people hoaxes so I think you can just enjoy some of your own medicine while this fleshes out. I know it is PROBABLY going to turn out to be true based exclusively on your team's reaction.

I mean, please by all means continue to beat that drum lol. It's become a complete laughingstock.

 

[Polish Leppy 22]

Whatever helps you I guess if you think the GOP would take the savings from caring for immigrants and use it for social welfare 😂

You are missing the point apparently that immigrants are not the boogeyman the right thinks they are. It’s yet another in the long line of subgroup to hate on because they can’t get enough. I don’t think you understand what rates are either lol.

Not gonna speak for the residents of Aurora, CO but I'd bet my next paycheck they disagree with that sentiment.

I'm also not gonna pain with a broad brush but you need to acknowledge that a gang from Venezuela, all here illegally, took over an entire apartment complex in Colorado. And they're being subsidized by the American taxpayer. That's just one example, and it was entirely preventable if this admin had any interest in enforcing our immigration law.

 

[GATTACA!]

Not gonna speak for the residents of Aurora, CO but I'd bet my next paycheck they disagree with that sentiment.

I'm also not gonna pain with a broad brush but you need to acknowledge that a gang from Venezuela, all here illegally, took over an entire apartment complex in Colorado. And they're being subsidized by the American taxpayer. That's just one example, and it was entirely preventable if this admin had any interest in enforcing our immigration law.

Tell that to republicans in congress. Won't support their own legislature to fix the problem.

 

[Polish Leppy 22]

Tell that to republicans in congress. Won't support their own legislature to fix the problem.

Is that a joke? Dems have controlled House, Senate and White House for almost 4 years. They could have passed anything they wanted and don't need the R's to do a damn thing.

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

Is that a joke? Dems have controlled House, Senate and White House for almost 4 years. They could have passed anything they wanted and don't need the R's to do a damn thing.

They did during Biden first two years. They a 50/50 split I. The senate and thin majority in the House and managed to pass all this:
espite Democrats holding thin majorities in both chambers during a period of intense political polarization, the 117th Congress oversaw the passage of numerous significant bills,[3][4] including the Inflation Reduction Act, American Rescue Plan Act, Infrastructure Investment and Jobs Act, Postal Service Reform Act, Bipartisan Safer Communities Act, CHIPS and Science Act, Honoring Our PACT Act, Electoral Count Reform and Presidential Transition Improvement Act, and Respect for Marriage Act.[4]

They would have done more but Senate GOP blocked many bills via procedural blocks Dems couldn’t overcome.

Since GOP took over two years ago nothing has happened because the 118th Congress is led by stupid people doing stupid things and they torpedoed their own Immigration bill. 🤣

 

[Irish#1]

They did during Biden first two years. They a 50/50 split I. The senate and thin majority in the House and managed to pass all this:
espite Democrats holding thin majorities in both chambers during a period of intense political polarization, the 117th Congress oversaw the passage of numerous significant bills,[3][4] including the Inflation Reduction Act, American Rescue Plan Act, Infrastructure Investment and Jobs Act, Postal Service Reform Act, Bipartisan Safer Communities Act, CHIPS and Science Act, Honoring Our PACT Act, Electoral Count Reform and Presidential Transition Improvement Act, and Respect for Marriage Act.[4]

They would have done more but Senate GOP blocked many bills via procedural blocks Dems couldn’t overcome.

Since GOP took over two years ago nothing has happened because the 118th Congress is led by stupid people doing stupid things and they torpedoed their own Immigration bill. 🤣

I think they got tired of Joe and company running that spending machine full tilt 24 hours a day.

 

[Irish#1]

If Biden started issuing EOs writ large y’all would be whining about that too. lol

Stop being so selective. The dude already issued 142. Trump issued 220 with 71 being revoked by Biden putting the number at 149 which is comparable to Biden.

 

[Irish#1]

Tell that to republicans in congress. Won't support their own legislature to fix the problem.

Wasn't that because the bill was tied to additional support for Ukraine and Repubs wanted to keep those two separate?

 

[NDVirginia19]

1) the Bipartisan immigration bill had plenty of problems with it (most notably being amnesty for over 10M illegal immigrants already in the country and allowing for over 2M illegal immigrants to enter the country every year)

2) The republicans in the house passed a bill 2 years prior that didn't get a vote in the Senate (I am sure those on the left have disagreements with it). It is political theater to say only the Republicans blocked legislation on immigration.

3) as Irish#1 said, the "immigration bill" started with dozens of pages to include tens of billions of dollars for Ukraine's borders. These types of omnibus bills are awful no matter what. Congress should vote on one issues or issues that are closely linked together.

 

[RDU Irish]

I mean, please by all means continue to beat that drum lol. It's become a complete laughingstock.

Eye opening for normal people is laughing stock for lib trolls. First step is admitting you have a problem troll.

 

[RDU Irish]

1) the Bipartisan immigration bill had plenty of problems with it (most notably being amnesty for over 10M illegal immigrants already in the country and allowing for over 2M illegal immigrants to enter the country every year)

2) The republicans in the house passed a bill 2 years prior that didn't get a vote in the Senate (I am sure those on the left have disagreements with it). It is political theater to say only the Republicans blocked legislation on immigration.

3) as Irish#1 said, the "immigration bill" started with dozens of pages to include tens of billions of dollars for Ukraine's borders. These types of omnibus bills are awful no matter what. Congress should vote on one issues or issues that are closely linked together.

The bill was trash. Normal people want zero people in this country illegally (or any other country for that matter). If Dems were worth a shit they would promote massive expansions to visas and green cards. Pretty obvious to anyone remotely honest with themselves that they are flooding the gates to push the voter rolls in their favor with no regard for any negative consequences.

Massie summed it up quite well the other day -

Enter Dem character assassination sniping for the next half page from Cack, Gat and Toronto because he makes a good point and you can't concede any point ever.

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

The bill was trash. Normal people want zero people in this country illegally (or any other country for that matter). If Dems were worth a shit they would promote massive expansions to visas and green cards. Pretty obvious to anyone remotely honest with themselves that they are flooding the gates to push the voter rolls in their favor with no regard for any negative consequences.

Massie summed it up quite well the other day -

Enter Dem character assassination sniping for the next half page from Cack, Gat and Toronto because he makes a good point and you can't concede any point ever.

Illegal immigrants can’t and don’t vote. But they do pay billions in taxes each year 🤣