Ian Williams

weisbank4

Banned
Messages
266
Reaction score
11
Ian just said what we all already knew or shouldve known.

Navy outschemed ND 10 fold. They have to outscheme to win against big D1 schools, thats kind of obvious isnt it?

Played harder? Absolutely. Without a doubt. The only players who played as hard as Navy were Clausen, Floyd, and Tate per the usual.

I should throw in Riddick too because he was fired up and got limited tries but you could see him fighting.
 

TDHeysus

FLOOR(RAND()*(N-D+1))+D;
Messages
3,315
Reaction score
355
Ian Willaims is completely out of line for opening his pie hole. he should be disciplined on the team. The funny thing is, Ian Williams of all ppl talking shit. Dude has been a near bust aLL SEASON LONG and now after he 1 decent game, he wants to open his mouth? If I were CW, that dude would running for his scholly...ALL WEEK LONG IN PRACTICE. he would run till he threw up, then when he gathered himself after upchucking, he would run some more. he wouldn't see any PT for at least one game. The hammer should be dropped, and hard.

if he dont like it, cut him and let him go play LB at Northern Illinois. there is no room for insubordination.
 
Last edited:

NeuteredDoomer

RIP - You are missed
Messages
6,714
Reaction score
434
...there is no room for insubordination.

Agree. But as a side thought, when athletes think they are busting their ass doing what the coach told them to do, and they see it not working...

Maybe less ego and less "swagger" bullshit and more "shut up and play the game" is in order. On all sides.

Definitely a crack in the system.

Sad.
 

NDinFL

New member
Messages
2,946
Reaction score
278
agreed,
Williams wouldn't have said it if it didn't needed to be said. Perhaps he just happened to be the one guy on defense that said something....maybe this is a concensus feeling throughout the defense. What do ya think?
 

WaveDomer

Well-known member
Messages
1,356
Reaction score
307
I think he was probably frustrated that Navy put up 400 yards. He's a kid. Kids say things. If Weis didn't like it, bring him to your office. Don't publicly embarrass a kid who plays for you. The coaches get paid a lot of money. If they get called out they should be able to handle it.
 

shortnd

Banned
Messages
99
Reaction score
3
Outschemed, not enough fire, whatever it is the players need to start showing some of the talent that got them to Notre Dame. I hope our defense watches Navy's defense and how to tackle even when undersized. If ND could tackle anybody with the first hit it would be amazing. I'm pretty sure the coaches didn't tell all the linebackers to keep going to the outside to stop the pitch option. Our players need to step up and play football.
 

NeuteredDoomer

RIP - You are missed
Messages
6,714
Reaction score
434
Outschemed, not enough fire, whatever it is the players need to start showing some of the talent that got them to Notre Dame. I hope our defense watches Navy's defense and how to tackle even when undersized. If ND could tackle anybody with the first hit it would be amazing. I'm pretty sure the coaches didn't tell all the linebackers to keep going to the outside to stop the pitch option. Our players need to step up and play football.

They need to fix it. .
 
Last edited:

nd1988

New member
Messages
295
Reaction score
17
I have a couple thoughts here. One, Ian was just a frustrated young man who had just lost a game to an inferior opponent. He let his emotions get the best of him in making his comment. Charlie should simply address him behind closed doors about being cautious in what he says. Nothing more.

As for what Charlie said in his press conference, "that is why one is a captain and the other is not". That is the BULLSHIT statement. As a coach, you NEVER, NEVER throw a player under the bus. He did just that because this kid made a statement that might show some vulnerability of CW and his staff.

Further, if you go back and watch the defensive play, Ian is one of the few who had a decent game. He was giving good effort and making plays.

Finally, if I notice that Ian is not starting or playing as much this week that will be the end of any support I have ever given CW. I have been a huge supporter of CW's, but lost some respect for the man after his poor statement this week.

Man up Charlie, you are the Head Coach and Leader of this team!!


Ding Ding Ding!!!!!!!
 

irishfan

Irish Hoops Mod
Messages
7,205
Reaction score
607
Finally, if I notice that Ian is not starting or playing as much this week that will be the end of any support I have ever given CW. I have been a huge supporter of CW's, but lost some respect for the man after his poor statement this week.

Man up Charlie, you are the Head Coach and Leader of this team!!

Maybe if Ian wants to keep his job as a starter he shouldn't say that his coaches were "outschemed"
 

BeatSC

Well-known member
Messages
4,443
Reaction score
1,375
Ding Ding Ding!!!!!!!

Hate to see a kid share his thoughts in that way it can certainly be taken as a slap at the coaches (albeit very deserved). Charlies response was taking himself to the level of a teenager. Tenutu probably gets paid more than NAvy's head coach and did jack shit all game. Two wrongs don't make a right and I doubt most coaches would react in a low class way like CW did. I'm sorry but given how much CW gets paid and the stnadards he quoted coming into the program that weren't good enough he needs to step up and take some shit. IF he leaves he is going to pocket millions. All I can say is his recruits better stay so at least his sucessor has a stocked team with no built in excuses.
 

TDHeysus

FLOOR(RAND()*(N-D+1))+D;
Messages
3,315
Reaction score
355
Agree. But as a side thought, when athletes think they are busting their ass doing what the coach told them to do, and they see it not working...

I understand where your coming from, but he (Williams) needs to grow up.

Lots of times you will be forced to do things that you do not agree with, or that you think may be done better in a different way. Take work for instance, I do not agree with alot of the policies at my work, but I follow them, and enforce them when needed.....This is no different, if he doesnt like what the coaches are telling him to do, or doesnt agree with it, then he needs either suck it up and make it work, or he needs to quit the team. mouthing off towards the coaching staff is not acceptable on any level of football (please see Larry Johnson). Self-discipline is a trait you learn from football, at least I did, and its a skill that I use everyday in my work-life; especially during the times where I am extremely frustrated at things beyond my control.
 
Last edited:

Junkhead

Community Mod
Messages
7,595
Reaction score
1,354
It shows a frustrated player, which is to be expected. Having the coach respond that way tells me there is a rift opening on the team. Weis should have handled it in house. It speaks of desperation to me.
 

jason_h537

The King is Back
Messages
6,945
Reaction score
581
In an premium article today it said there is some tension between Weis and Tenuta.
 

irishfan

Irish Hoops Mod
Messages
7,205
Reaction score
607
There has been some buzz around nose tackle Ian Williams after he made multiple comments about Notre Dame being “out schemed” in the post-game interview room.

Williams looked distraught after the loss, which is expected, but more so than any other of his teammates. In my opinion, his comments may have been taken out of context and he was referring to the front line being outplayed versus out schemed.

With that said, the junior defensive lineman was more honed in today at practice than I ever recall seeing a player at any position during individuals. He was moving full speed, used sound technique and you didn’t hear a peep from him.

I noticed a new man in wide receiver Duval Kamara a few weeks back, and I feel Williams is next in line for showing a continued progression on the production chart.

BlueandGold.com // Notre Dame Practice Report: Nov. 10 (Pt. 1)


Don't think Weis is losing the team one bit.
 

NDMontana

All-American Reject
Messages
1,669
Reaction score
101
I understand where your coming from, but he (Williams) needs to grow up.

He's 20 years-old, I think that's what he's in the process of doing. How old is Charlie Weis? Who is the authority figure in this situation? Shouldn't Charlie--as the coach, adult and mentor--have pulled Ian aside and said "We don't air our dirty laundry in the media. You may complain during films, you can stop by my office to express your concerns or you can commiserate with your teammates but don't make that mistake again".

Is it honestly productive for Charlie to respond the way he did? If your kid was throwing a fit in the toy store because you wouldn't buy her/him the toy he/she wanted, would the correct reaction be for you to start throwing a fit because the child wouldn't leave the store??

Lots of times you will be forced to do things that you do not agree with, or that you think may be done better in a different way. Take work for instance, I do not agree with alot of the policies at my work, but I follow them, and enforce them when needed.....This is no different, if he doesnt like what the coaches are telling him to do, or doesnt agree with it, then he needs either suck it up and make it work, or he needs to quit the team.

I'm quite certain that he's probably dedicated a lot of time, effort and heart to the program. To just quit isn't an option. He made a bad choice, nobody disagrees with that (or shouldn't); but to carry on like he's a sage old man is ridculous.

mouthing off towards the coaching staff is not acceptable on any level of football (please see Larry Johnson).

If Larry Johnson were still productive the team would've released a statement along the lines of: "While Larry's actions were regrettable, the entire Chiefs organization stands behind him. Larry made a mistake, he admitted it and we've moved on". But Larry Johnson isn't productive anymore and so the Chiefs simply told him to hit the bricks.

Self-discipline is a trait you learn from football, at least I did, and its a skill that I use everyday in my work-life; especially during the times where I am extremely frustrated at things beyond my control.

Yes, but unlike Ian Williams, you're not 20 years-old with thousands of kids on campus and millions of fans expecting the world from you. At the end of your work day you don't have 100 microphones and 10 television cameras jammed in your face. You don't do your work on national television.
 
Last edited:

josejose4482

New member
Messages
149
Reaction score
7
Why are we surprised with Weis' comeback? We all know what type of guy he is...a I dont give a F* what you think or say about me and I'm gonna tell you how it is type of guy. If anything, Williams should take it as motiviation, step up and make some big plays. Prove you have the ability to be captain of this defense.
 

JefMaj

Banned
Messages
1,383
Reaction score
36
Fromm Blue Gold . com Nov. 10 practice report:

"There has been some buzz around nose tackle Ian Williams after he made multiple comments about Notre Dame being “out schemed” in the post-game interview room.

Williams looked distraught after the loss, which is expected, but more so than any other of his teammates. In my opinion, his comments may have been taken out of context and he was referring to the front line being outplayed versus out schemed.

With that said, the junior defensive lineman was more honed in today at practice than I ever recall seeing a player at any position during individuals. He was moving full speed, used sound technique and you didn’t hear a peep from him.

I noticed a new man in wide receiver Duval Kamara a few weeks back, and I feel Williams is next in line for showing a continued progression on the production chart."
 
Top