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Bogtrotter07
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The difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits.
Albert Einstein
Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.
Albert Einstein
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"Education's purpose is to replace an empty mind with an open one."
Malcolm Forbes
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Resolved, that two Battalions of Marines be raised consisting of one Colonel, two Lieutenant Colonels, two Majors & Officers as usual in other regiments, that they consist of an equal number of privates with other battalions; that particular care be taken that no persons be appointed to office or inlisted into said Battalions, but such as are good seamen, or so acquainted with maritime affairs as to be able to serve to advantage by sea, when required. That they be inlisted and commissioned for and during the present war with Great Britain and the colonies, unless dismissed by Congress. That they be distinguished by the names of the first & second battalions of American Marines, and that they be considered a part of the number, which the continental Army before Boston is ordered to consist of.
—Resolution of the Continental Congress on 10 November 1775
Albert Einstein
Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.
Albert Einstein
Comhaltas: ComhaltasLive #411-3: John Carroll
"Education's purpose is to replace an empty mind with an open one."
Malcolm Forbes
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Resolved, that two Battalions of Marines be raised consisting of one Colonel, two Lieutenant Colonels, two Majors & Officers as usual in other regiments, that they consist of an equal number of privates with other battalions; that particular care be taken that no persons be appointed to office or inlisted into said Battalions, but such as are good seamen, or so acquainted with maritime affairs as to be able to serve to advantage by sea, when required. That they be inlisted and commissioned for and during the present war with Great Britain and the colonies, unless dismissed by Congress. That they be distinguished by the names of the first & second battalions of American Marines, and that they be considered a part of the number, which the continental Army before Boston is ordered to consist of.
—Resolution of the Continental Congress on 10 November 1775
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Bogtrotter07
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I will eat your children!
Mike Tyson
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THE GETTYSBURG ADDRESS:
Four score and seven years ago, our fathers brought forth on this continent, a new nation, conceived in Liberty and dedicated to the proposition that all men are created equal.
Now we are engaged in a great Civil War, testing whether that nation, or any nation so conceived and so dedicated, can long endure. We are met on a great battlefield of that war. We have come to dedicate a portion of that field, as a final resting place for those who here gave their lives that that nation might live. It is altogether fitting and proper that we should do this.
But, in a larger sense, we can not dedicate -- we can not consecrate -- we can not hallow -- this ground. The brave men, living and dead, who struggled here, have consecrated it far above our poor power to add or detract. The world will little note, nor long remember what we say here, but it can never forget what they did here. It is for us the living, rather, to be dedicated here to the unfinished work which they who fought here have thus far so nobly advanced.
It is rather for us to be here dedicated to the great task remaining before us -- that from these honored dead we take increased devotion to that cause for which they gave the last full measure of devotion -- that we here highly resolve that these dead shall not have died in vain -- that this nation, under God, shall have a new birth of freedom -- and that government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the earth.
Abraham Lincoln ~ November 19, 1863
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Bogtrotter07
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Do not pray for easy lives. Pray to be stronger men.
John F. Kennedy
I love Kierkegaard! For some reason I have always had a major weakness for him.
Anxiety is the dizziness of freedom.
Soren Kierkegaard
Far from idleness being the root of all evil, it is rather the only true good.
Soren Kierkegaard
In addition to my other numerous acquaintances, I have one more intimate confidant. My depression is the most faithful mistress I have known -- no wonder, then, that I return the love.
Soren Kierkegaard
Life can only be understood backwards; but it must be lived forwards.
Soren Kierkegaard
Most men pursue pleasure with such breathless haste that they hurry past it.
Soren Kierkegaard
People demand freedom of speech as a compensation for the freedom of thought which they seldom use.
Soren Kierkegaard
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ACamp1900
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In recognition of today’s horrible anniversary…
“The largest single barrier to full employment of our manpower and resources and to a higher rate of economic growth is the unrealistically heavy drag of federal income taxes on private purchasing power, initiative and incentive.”
John F. Kennedy
“The largest single barrier to full employment of our manpower and resources and to a higher rate of economic growth is the unrealistically heavy drag of federal income taxes on private purchasing power, initiative and incentive.”
John F. Kennedy
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Oh Yeeaah!!!
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What a freaking tea party right wingnut!
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Bogtrotter07
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No, he wasn't a wing nut. But there is no context to the quote. The tax rates today are less than one-half of what they were cut to after his initiative was passed after his death! (Context makes a difference.)
Individual income tax rates were cut across the board by approximately 20%. In addition to individual income tax cuts, the act slightly reduced corporate tax rates and introduced a minimum standard deduction.
reduced top marginal rate from 91% to 70%
reduced corporate tax rate from 52% to 48%
phased-in acceleration of corporate estimated tax payments (through 1970)
created minimum standard deduction of $300 + $100/exemption (total $1,000 max)
Kinda makes some of those bitching today look like ones (wingnuts) though:
Do not pray for easy lives. Pray to be stronger men.
John F. Kennedy
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Keep in mind that the maximum federal income tax rate at the time was 91%. It was a a
hangover from the trustbusting days and a quick-fix cure for obscene war profits garnered. Adjustments have been made. Over adjustments from my perspective, and in my opinion.
The "wealth of the nation" is now (once again) being concentrated and hoarded. There is a withering purchasing power for most. Initiative is alive and well, but far too often rejected because the short term profit projections don't warrant investment or effort. Incentive remains but is much more exclusive, quirky and largely in the hands of those who stand to gain, win or lose.
The bottom line is that the circular "churning" of wealth has been interrupted.
ACamp1900
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"Work as if you were to live a hundred years. Pray as if you were to die tomorrow."
Benjamin Franklin
"The first requisite of a good citizen in this republic of ours is that he shall be able and willing to pull his own weight."
Theodore Roosevelt
"When you want to help people, you tell them the truth. When you want to help yourself, you tell them what they want to hear."
Thomas Sowell
"Good Conservatives always pay their bills. And on time. Not like the Socialists who run up other people's bills."
Margaret Thatcher
"Republicans believe every day is 4th of July, but Democrats believe every day is April 15."
Ronald Reagan
"If we can but prevent the government from wasting the labours of the people, under the pretence of taking care of them, they must become happy."
Thomas Jefferson
Benjamin Franklin
"The first requisite of a good citizen in this republic of ours is that he shall be able and willing to pull his own weight."
Theodore Roosevelt
"When you want to help people, you tell them the truth. When you want to help yourself, you tell them what they want to hear."
Thomas Sowell
"Good Conservatives always pay their bills. And on time. Not like the Socialists who run up other people's bills."
Margaret Thatcher
"Republicans believe every day is 4th of July, but Democrats believe every day is April 15."
Ronald Reagan
"If we can but prevent the government from wasting the labours of the people, under the pretence of taking care of them, they must become happy."
Thomas Jefferson
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"I did not shoot him."
Lee Harvey Oswald.
Lee Harvey Oswald.
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"Yabba Dabba Do" Fred Flinstone"
"Spread Out" Moe Howard
WC Fields
If at first you don't succeed, try, try again. Then quit. There's no point in being a damn fool about it.
I cook with wine, sometimes I even add it to the food.
The best cure for insomnia is to get a lot of sleep.
A woman drove me to drink and I didn't even have the decency to thank her.
Don't worry about your heart, it will last you as long as you live.
"Spread Out" Moe Howard
WC Fields
If at first you don't succeed, try, try again. Then quit. There's no point in being a damn fool about it.
I cook with wine, sometimes I even add it to the food.
The best cure for insomnia is to get a lot of sleep.
A woman drove me to drink and I didn't even have the decency to thank her.
Don't worry about your heart, it will last you as long as you live.
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No British politician has ever been more despised by the British people than Margaret Thatcher.
Steven Morrissey
And for good reason, if you are Irish or if you want a future. Unemployment, cost of living, distribution of wealth and wages all took a hit under Thacher. Spending didn't. Just like it didn't under her buddy in the US.
Bogtrotter 11/22/13
Steven Morrissey
And for good reason, if you are Irish or if you want a future. Unemployment, cost of living, distribution of wealth and wages all took a hit under Thacher. Spending didn't. Just like it didn't under her buddy in the US.
Bogtrotter 11/22/13
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More from WC Fields
Now don't say you can't swear off drinking; it's easy. I've done it a thousand times.
Back in my rummy days, I would tremble and shake for hours upon arising. It was the only exercise I got.
Thou shalt not kill anything less than a fifth.
Say, Mr. Fields, I read in the paper where you consumed two quarts of liquor a day. What would your father think about that?
WC: He'd think I was a sissy.
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Fields gave this rationale for not drinking water:
Fish f*ck in it.
I certainly do not drink all the time. I have to sleep you know.
Now don't say you can't swear off drinking; it's easy. I've done it a thousand times.
Back in my rummy days, I would tremble and shake for hours upon arising. It was the only exercise I got.
Thou shalt not kill anything less than a fifth.
Say, Mr. Fields, I read in the paper where you consumed two quarts of liquor a day. What would your father think about that?
WC: He'd think I was a sissy.
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Fields gave this rationale for not drinking water:
Fish f*ck in it.
I certainly do not drink all the time. I have to sleep you know.
ACamp1900
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It must be a blast living in a total fantasy world at all times… one of these days I’ll have to drop acid, touch myself while reading Howard Zinn and go cry to coal miner unions… then, and only then, I might understand bogs.
Thatcher Ranks as One of the Greatest Leaders of Britain In a Thousand Years - The New York Sun
Thatcher Ranks as One of the Greatest Leaders of Britain In a Thousand Years - The New York Sun
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Cackalacky
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Your lack of perspective is disturbing
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Bogtrotter07
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That is a great quote! It of course is from Jefferson to William Ludlow, Sept. 6, 1824.
"We are now vibrating between too much and too little government,
and the pendulum will rest finally in the middle." --Thomas
Jefferson to Samuel Smith, 1788.
"I am not a friend to a very energetic government. It is always
oppressive." --Thomas Jefferson to James Madison, 1787.
"We exist, and are quoted, as standing proofs that a government,
so modeled as to rest continually on the will of the whole
society, is a practicable government." --Thomas Jefferson to
Richard Rush, 1820.
"The whole art of government consists in the art of being honest."
--Thomas Jefferson: Rights of British America, 1774.
"A noiseless course, not meddling with the affairs of others,
unattractive of notice, is a mark that society is going on in
happiness. If we can prevent the government from wasting the
labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them,
they must become happy." --Thomas Jefferson to Thomas Cooper,
1802.
The quote you rendered in the context of the letter in which it pertained:
Sir -
The idea which you present in your letter of July 30th, of the progress of society from its rudest state to that it has now attained, seems conformable to what may be probably conjectured. Indeed, we have under our eyes tolerable proofs of it. Let a philosophic observer commence a journey from the savages of the Rocky Mountains, eastwardly towards our sea-coast. These he would observe in the earliest stage of association living under no law but that of nature, subscribing and covering themselves with the flesh and skins of wild beasts. He would next find those on our frontiers in the pastoral state, raising domestic animals to supply the defects of hunting. Then succeed our own semi-barbarous citizens, the pioneers of the advance of civilization, and so in his progress he would meet the gradual shades of improving man until he would reach his, as yet, most improved state in our seaport towns. This, in fact, is equivalent to a survey, in time, of the progress of man from the infancy of creation to the present day. I am eighty-one years of age, born where I now live, in the first range of mountains in the interior of our country. And I have observed this march of civilization advancing from the sea coast, passing over us like a cloud of light, increasing our knowledge and improving our condition, insomuch as that we are at this time more advanced in civilization here than the seaports were when I was a boy. And where this progress will stop no one can say. Barbarism has, in the meantime, been receding before the steady step of amelioration; and will in time, I trust, disappear from the earth. You seem to think that this advance has brought on too complicated a state of society, and that we should gain in happiness by treading back our steps a little way. I think, myself, that we have more machinery of government than is necessary, too many parasites living on the labor of the industrious. I believe it might be much simplified to the relief of those who maintain it. Your experiment seems to have this in view. A society of seventy families, the number you name, may very possibly be governed as a single family, subsisting on their common industry, and holding all things in common. Some regulators of the family you still must have, and it remains to be seen at what period of your increasing population your simple regulations will cease to be sufficient to preserve order, peace, and justice. The experiment is interesting; I shall not live to see its issue, but I wish it success equal to your hopes, and to yourself and society prosperity and happiness.
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Bogs, you're starting to get a little too deep for me. I don't want to have to think that hard! lol
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"If you would not be forgotten, as soon as you are dead and rotten, either write things worth reading or do things worth the writing."
Ben Franklin
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Bogtrotter07
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So the source of the "great" rating for the witch is an on-line pol op site that failed as a publication?
The PIRA's view?
October 12, 1084, Grand Hotel, Brighton, England. The IRA claimed responsibility the next day, and said that it would try again. Its statement read:
Margaret Thatcher's secret admiration for IRA hunger strikers
When IRA prisoners threatened to starve themselves to death if they were not recognised as political prisoners, Baroness Thatcher’s response was typically unbending.
bobby sands
Bobby Sands, who died on hunger strike in the Maze prison (pictured right)
Gordon Rayner
By Gordon Rayner, Chief Reporter
7:00AM BST 23 Apr 2013
But privately, Lady Thatcher admitted to having a certain admiration for Bobby Sands and nine other prisoners who died on hunger strike, saying she had to “hand it” to them and describing their deaths as a “terrible waste of human life”.
Their deaths also made her realise that she would be a terrorist target for the rest of her life, and she wrote about being “absolutely terrified” whenever she walked into a crowd after that.
Sands, who was elected as an MP during his own hunger strike, was the best-known of the prisoners who demanded that members of paramilitary groups should be treated differently from other prisoners at the notorious Maze prison in Ulster.
They wanted to be given better conditions than other prisoners, such as the right to wear civilian clothes and the right not to do prison work, but Lady Thatcher refused to budge.
Sands, jailed for possessing a handgun, died in May 1981 after 66 days on hunger strike, the first of ten prisoners to die over the course of the following four months.
In personal papers unearthed by her biographer, Charles Moore, she wrote: “You have to hand it to some of these IRA boys”, describing them as “poor devils” because “if they didn’t go on strike they’d be shot [by their own side]…What a waste! What a terrible waste of human life!”
The deaths of the prisoners were blamed by republican terrorist groups on Lady Thatcher, and she knew it made her a prime target who would “forever” have to be protected (and who narrowly escaped the IRA’s attempt to assassinate her with the Brighton bombing of 1984).
Despite the Iron Lady’s refusal to complain about her status as a target, she was always nervous of crowds and saw every gift as a potential terrorist bomb, particularly after the 1991 assassination of the Indian prime minister Rajiv Gandhi, killed by a Tamil suicide bomber pretending to show her devotion to him by touching his feet.
Lady Thatcher wrote: “[When] you walk into a crowd – it’s always absolutely terrifying. Or if someone hands you something – look at Rajiv Gandhi – hidden in flowers.”
Following the death of Sands, John Hume, the SDLP leader who was later a joint recipient of the Nobel Peace Prize, begged Lady Thatcher to allow the prisoners civilian clothes and free association with each other, but she refused, saying: “The people who had been killed by the Provisional IRA had had no choice. The hunger strikers had a choice,” according to a minute of their conversation.
Love you Acamp, respect your politics, don't like over simplistic labels, have no use for anyone like Thacher.
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Our revenge will be the laughter of our children.
Bobby Sands
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