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Seriously? Lincoln Riley took 5 years to fire Alex Grinch. He was terrible at OU too and Riley had the chance to leave him behind and took him with him. This comparison is ridiculous.
I'm interested in who he gets as the next DC. To be his DC you have to think is tough. You know that you will have way more possessions to stop than other places, making your defense look inferior to others statistically. It's why I thought Grinch worked well except for this season when the offense hasn't been as lethal as before. Grinch's job was to get a couple of turnovers a game. Give up big plays and points? Riley figures they will score every time they get the ball. Sacrifice those things to get 2 turnovers and we will win is I'm sure Riley's philosophy.
 

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Everything that I've heard about Riley is that the defense issues are actually his fault. He apparently dedicates zero time /energy to that side of the ball, and practices are 100% structured around the offense. He is an awful coach who has failed to achieve anything of note despite a parade of Heisman-level QBs to work with.
 

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Everything that I've heard about Riley is that the defense issues are actually his fault. He apparently dedicates zero time /energy to that side of the ball, and practices are 100% structured around the offense. He is an awful coach who has failed to achieve anything of note despite a parade of Heisman-level QBs to work with.
Notre Dame OC Lincoln Riley is gonna go hard
 

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Seriously? Lincoln Riley took 5 years to fire Alex Grinch. He was terrible at OU too and Riley had the chance to leave him behind and took him with him. This comparison is ridiculous.
i believe we are in agreement no?
 

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Everything that I've heard about Riley is that the defense issues are actually his fault. He apparently dedicates zero time /energy to that side of the ball, and practices are 100% structured around the offense. He is an awful coach who has failed to achieve anything of note despite a parade of Heisman-level QBs to work with.
This is interesting because from his time at Wazzu. There is no way I believe he is this bad of a DC. I could totally see this as a BVG situation where there is some sort of overriding issue, practice time, reps, etc. that make it impossible for good coaches to operate within.
 

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This is interesting because from his time at Wazzu. There is no way I believe he is this bad of a DC. I could totally see this as a BVG situation where there is some sort of overriding issue, practice time, reps, etc. that make it impossible for good coaches to operate within.
It's his style of defense, Grinch calls it "Speed D". The purpose of the way his defense operates is by being extremely aggressive to create negative plays and turnovers; get the ball back to the offense as quickly as possible. In theory, the idea is that Riley's offense is scoring at will and forcing the opponent to play a style of offense that they're uncomfortable with to keep up, and the defense will create enough havoc to get the job done. The problem is that any team with a competent QB and/or a good OL can withstand the aggressiveness and just shred Grinch's defense behind that aggressiveness.
 

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This is interesting because from his time at Wazzu. There is no way I believe he is this bad of a DC. I could totally see this as a BVG situation where there is some sort of overriding issue, practice time, reps, etc. that make it impossible for good coaches to operate within.
In the same sense that BK's special teams coaches seemed uniformly terrible because he dedicates the minimum of resources to it.
 

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In the same sense that BK's special teams coaches seemed uniformly terrible because he dedicates the minimum of resources to it.
This. With that said, prefer to spend more time and have quality coaches on Offense that is on the field 65 plays a game vs special teams that's on the field 15-20.
 

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Honestly our offense was terrible vs nc state other than maybe 5 or 6 plays. We had 7, 3 and outs. We had 6 vs clemson as a comparison. Both awful.

Estime had stud run and then hartman kept plays alive for big tobias and staes gains.
Disagree. He called a decent game against NCS. I believe there were three instances where the play call was good, but the receivers dropped two and Sam overthrew on one. All three would have moved the chains.
 

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My read on the situation was they (Freeman, Savvy Jack, at al.) panicked after the Ludwig disaster and quickly pivoted to Gerard since they knew they wouldn't be rejected.
This is where I'm at. I think MF panicked a little and was worried taking too long would hurt getting the offense installed and he promoted Parker.
 

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Everything that I've heard about Riley is that the defense issues are actually his fault. He apparently dedicates zero time /energy to that side of the ball, and practices are 100% structured around the offense. He is an awful coach who has failed to achieve anything of note despite a parade of Heisman-level QBs to work with.
Four Big 12 Championships at OU. He's 1-4 in bowl games, and while he's played in some big ones, he's got the one win to his credit. The 2020 Covid Cotton Bowl. The more I see of certain people doing anything of note that year with little or nothing of note before or after, you can't help but wonder. He got handed the OU job from Stoops when he was in his mid 30s? Could be another instance of too much too soon.

He's also a paranoid person and is incredibly contentious toward the media, putting it rather politely. There were rumors of an affair while he was at OU, and Riley's wife tends to keep a low profile. A lot of smoke around the guy and very much of it is due to fire.

We're going to find out in short order how good he really is. As for Grinch, I do think he deserves another shot out there somewhere. He's certainly young enough that his career has plenty of life left in it.
 

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Disagree. He called a decent game against NCS. I believe there were three instances where the play call was good, but the receivers dropped two and Sam overthrew on one. All three would have moved the chains.
I can agree with decent, me saying terrible probably was a bit overstated. Another game I was at and the level of frustration at times was high.
 

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I'm interested in who he gets as the next DC. To be his DC you have to think is tough. You know that you will have way more possessions to stop than other places, making your defense look inferior to others statistically. It's why I thought Grinch worked well except for this season when the offense hasn't been as lethal as before. Grinch's job was to get a couple of turnovers a game. Give up big plays and points? Riley figures they will score every time they get the ball. Sacrifice those things to get 2 turnovers and we will win is I'm sure Riley's philosophy.
Lets just hope its not Aranda if he gets let go. Things not going well in Waco.
 

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Lets just hope its not Aranda if he gets let go. Things not going well in Waco.
That’s the rumor I’ve been hearing since Baylor began struggling. He’s a Cali native so that’s where the assumption comes from. I bet he has a huge buyout if fired so maybe he wants to take a break?
 

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If and a big if, GP is brought back next year, I’m out on MF. I want him to succeed in the worst way but this shows he isn’t ready. His comment about play-action pass was head scratching at best. Years of data to support the complete opposite of what he said. Just shows he is behind the curve.

And if we want to talk about buddies, you don’t put your buddy in a position like he did.
 

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If and a big if, GP is brought back next year, I’m out on MF. I want him to succeed in the worst way but this shows he isn’t ready. His comment about play-action pass was head scratching at best. Years of data to support the complete opposite of what he said. Just shows he is behind the curve.

And if we want to talk about buddies, you don’t put your buddy in a position like he did.
If GP is brought back, I don’t think you’ll have to worry about Marcus for too much longer anyway. He doesn’t have nearly the banked goodwill and track record to survive two years of this offense because he won’t fire his friend.
 

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If GP is brought back, I don’t think you’ll have to worry about Marcus for too much longer anyway. He doesn’t have nearly the banked goodwill and track record to survive two years of this offense because he won’t fire his friend.
Agreed, Year 3 is going to be make or break for him. Really needs to win 10.
 

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If GP is brought back, I don’t think you’ll have to worry about Marcus for too much longer anyway. He doesn’t have nearly the banked goodwill and track record to survive two years of this offense because he won’t fire his friend.
Really doubt MF brings Parker back. I know there's a lot of consternation about the lack of a public firing, but for all of MF's faults (in-game management, not bringing in a transfer QB last year, the Ludwig optics), one thing that he has demonstrated thus far is he wants excellence from his coaching staff and gets it - he has made a lot of excellent hires, and I'd argue every member of this staff apart from Parker has been good to great. He let Elston walk after years of being a well respected member of ND's staff, because he thought he could do better (and imo has) with Washington. Thus far, his only misstep has been making Parker the OC - and there's certainly some question as to how much fault he holds in that situation given he wanted someone else and the administration balked on the financials.

It's possible that silently demoting Parker is the best way to go here. Maybe he is doing his best to try to bring Parker back as TE coach, or at the very least allowing Parker to save face. If I was a prospective coach, I would certainly want to work for a guy that publicly takes the heat and gives me cover even if I've been demoted.

When it comes to coaches, maybe MF isn't as dumb as a lot of people seem to think. That being said, if Parker is OC in 24 then I'll be as upset as the rest of you.
 
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I think the confirmation is Brice saying something to the affect of a decision hasn’t been made yet which usually means a decision has been made and it’s not a good one for the person in question.

But apparently he said today on his pod that Parker may stay.
 

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Brice talk is weird... on one hand no decision made. On the other he insinuated with "decent buyout and 3 year contract", we might be stuck with Parker.
 
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