Gerad Parker - Troy Head Coach :)

[Jiggafini19Deux]

Why? The last five minutes. WHY.

 

[IRISHDODGER]

I agree on points except Harman was clearly short of the line to gain. The ball was in his right hand and he showed zero awareness on where he was on the field.

The game was a total gut punch. It wasn't lost on one play or one coaching mistake.
It was a series of about 15 things that if just one of those didn't happen, we win.
That's why it was so devastating.

Correct. Hartman HAS to make that marker. No excuse for a six year senior to not get that first down.

 

[IrishTusker]

It's hard not to notice that OSU hired one of the best DCs in the country in Knowles. ND tried to hire one of the best OCs in country in Ludwig, and Swarbrick vetoed that because of the expense.

That said, correct play-calling at the end (run the ball) and we win. But still with only 14 points.

 

[Bluto]

It's hard not to notice that OSU hired one of the best DCs in the country in Knowles. ND tried to hire one of the best OCs in country in Ludwig, and Swarbrick vetoed that because of the expense.

That said, correct play-calling at the end (run the ball) and we win. But still with only 14 points.

Utah’s offense hasn’t exactly set the world on fire this season. I understand they are missing Cam Rising, but they have looked pretty bad to average on O all season.

 

[BleedBlueGold]

I don't have many issues with Parker tbh. I think he's done an ok job. But...

1) His 4th down play calls were a joke
2) RTDB to close out games when you have the lead. OSU's DL was gassed. Why didn't he lean on Estime and ND's OL in the last series? Force OSU to use TOs to stop the clock. Get a first down and the game is basically over.
3) Were there any play-action calls? I might've missed some, but I noticed a lot of times where OSU's front 7 was crashing and DBs were cheating on the run. I felt Parker could've utilized Hartman better in getting TEs and WRs over the top. Force OSU's DBs to cover and force the refs to have to make calls (which they were horrendous at all night, but you still have to do it).

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

Seemed behind the eight ball more than not after first down, especially in the first half.

First down play calling and execution against the elite need an upgrade. Something to work on against Duke.

 

[PutuporShutup]

I don't have many issues with Parker tbh. I think he's done an ok job. But...

1) His 4th down play calls were a joke
2) RTDB to close out games when you have the lead. OSU's DL was gassed. Why didn't he lean on Estime and ND's OL in the last series? Force OSU to use TOs to stop the clock. Get a first down and the game is basically over.
3) Were there any play-action calls? I might've missed some, but I noticed a lot of times where OSU's front 7 was crashing and DBs were cheating on the run. I felt Parker could've utilized Hartman better in getting TEs and WRs over the top. Force OSU's DBs to cover and force the refs to have to make calls (which they were horrendous at all night, but you still have to do it).

He actually did, he did a basic run play and estime got 11. I knew we were going to win there because our line was pushing them and they were gassed. Instead of going back to it, he runs a fancy run play and it gets blown up by one guy, with no estime in the game.

 

[PutuporShutup]

Seemed behind the eight ball more than not after first down, especially in the first half.

First down play calling and execution against the elite need an upgrade. Something to work on against Duke.

correct, we keep running this slow developing run play with estime on first downs early in games that gets 0-2 yards and puts us behind.

 

[BleedBlueGold]

He actually did, he did a basic run play and estime got 11. I knew we were going to win there because our line was pushing them and they were gassed. Instead of going back to it, he runs a fancy run play and it gets blown up by one guy, with no estime in the game.

Thanks for clarifying. I'll edit my post, but that's what I meant. That he got "pulled" on the last series in order to get cute.

 

[Giddyup]

ND fans think Andy Ludwig is Bill Walsh. Be all, end all

 

[ThePiombino]

ND fans think Andy Ludwig is Bill Walsh. Be all, end all

No, but in all likelihood Andy Ludwig is >>> Gerad Parker

 

[Lberry]

ND fans think Andy Ludwig is Bill Walsh. Be all, end all

No, but there's very little chance Ludwig (or someone equally experienced), scores 14 with this QB/RBs/OL.

 

[Giddyup]

We were moving the ball quite a bit. Got screwed on one 4th. He could have called a better game but they were moving the ball

 

[Giddyup]

No, but there's very little chance Ludwig (or someone equally experienced), scores 14 with this QB/RBs/OL.

We don’t know that and never will

 

[ThePiombino]

We don’t know that and never will

We may not KNOW, but we know...

 

[Giddyup]

“You think you know, but you DON'T-KNOW, and you never WILL, okay?”

Love me some Jim mora

 

[Rockin’Irish]

I think Parker has overall done a good job this year. Better than Ludwig would have done? No way of knowing. The knock against Parker was he’s unproven and the plus for Ludwig is that he was proven at Utah. Parker may end up being better, no one knows but I’d say so far he’s exceeded overall expectations based on the initial hiring comments made by many. There is still a lot of football to be played, maybe we should look at his overall body of work at season‘s end to see how he did. I’d prefer that he is successful but we’ll have to wait and see.

 

[PutuporShutup]

I think Parker has overall done a good job this year. Better than Ludwig would have done? No way of knowing. The knock against Parker was he’s unproven and the plus for Ludwig is that he was proven at Utah. Parker may end up being better, no one knows but I’d say so far he’s exceeded overall expectations based on the initial hiring comments made by many. There is still a lot of football to be played, maybe we should look at his overall body of work at season‘s end to see how he did. I’d prefer that he is successful but we’ll have to wait and see.

Yeah I like some of what he's doing. I don't like that we never use tempo, i don't like his play calling in big moments. I don't like he's accepting this 5 back rotation that has at times our best player on the bench wayyyy too much.

 

[NDFAN2008]

My biggest issue with the game is we come out and throw a nice ball to Tyree first play then don't go back to him rest of game, where were the jet sweeps? Get a jet sweep to Jadarian or Love? Where was the deep shots? We took zero deep shots nothing to Tobias, nothing to Tyree. Get the RB's involved in the passing game. Where has Colzie been?

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

Utah’s offense hasn’t exactly set the world on fire this season. I understand they are missing Cam Rising, but they have looked pretty bad to average on O all season.

They were down to QB3 at one point. They've won games against Florida of the mighty SEC, Baylor and UCLA.

I'm fine with Parker thus far and I think he's going to do a good job having this group of guys at his disposal, but going back to all of that the optics and PR look of hiring Ludwig in addition to his football experience would have been very good for Freeman this early in his tenure.

 

[stlnd01]

Well it's a good thing that Flores and Greathouse have seemed like our two best WRs all season...

 

[IRISHMAN]

Well it's a good thing that Flores and Greathouse have seemed like our two best WRs all season...

i like how MF is getting the talent on the field but man i would have liked to have seen chris tyree get more touches against osu.

 

[Sea Turtle]

It's hard not to notice that OSU hired one of the best DCs in the country in Knowles. ND tried to hire one of the best OCs in country in Ludwig, and Swarbrick vetoed that because of the expense.

That said, correct play-calling at the end (run the ball) and we win. But still with only 14 points.

And that's just one of the differences between the two programs.

OSU gets it done.
ND almost gets it done.

 

[SoIll]

Why no mitchapalooza on the 4th down plays? Its never not worked. I know it was a Rees play, but Parker has ran it a couple times earlier in the year.

Also of note, of Hartman hands that ball off on that funky looking counter play that Tuimoloau blew up, there's a good chance we fumble that ball.

Don't get cute. Just straight up run the fucking ball down their throats. That's pee wee football shit.

 

[ThePiombino]

Why no mitchapalooza on the 4th down plays? Its never not worked.

Yes it has. And honestly, with our OL, we should be able to rely on a QB sneak or HB dive for 1 yard.

 

[notredomer23]

Why no mitchapalooza on the 4th down plays? Its never not worked. I know it was a Rees play, but Parker has ran it a couple times earlier in the year.

Also of note, of Hartman hands that ball off on that funky looking counter play that Tuimoloau blew up, there's a good chance we fumble that ball.

Don't get cute. Just straight up run the fucking ball down their throats. That's pee wee football shit.

I may be misremembering but I think everyone was vehemently against it by the end of last year. I know it was stuffed against USC on a 4th down and IIRC it was the game before too.

 

[IRISHMAN]

Why no mitchapalooza on the 4th down plays? Its never not worked. I know it was a Rees play, but Parker has ran it a couple times earlier in the year.

Also of note, of Hartman hands that ball off on that funky looking counter play that Tuimoloau blew up, there's a good chance we fumble that ball.

Don't get cute. Just straight up run the fucking ball down their throats. That's pee wee football shit.

i agree specially after estime just ran for 11 yards on the previous play.

 

[BabyIrish]

I think the B+ grade is a fair one. It was clear that running the ball was the preferred choice and by subbing all five continuously to run over them in the fourth. Seems like a good idea. I was hoping for a drive or two to be more wide open in the passing game. Too bad we couldn’t run over them on that last drive.

 

[bumpdaddy]

I agree on points except Harman was clearly short of the line to gain. The ball was in his right hand and he showed zero awareness on where he was on the field.

He was not clearly short. The one and only replay they showed seemed to confirm the football crossed the line to gain before he was out of bounds despite what the announcers said. It doesn't matter where the ball is when the ball first crosses out of bounds. Instead, it matters where the ball is when Hartman is officially out of bounds, and he was not officially out of bounds until his right foot touches out of bounds well beyond the line to gain. Once his right foot touches, look at where the ball is. It certainly looks like it is well past the line to gain. For some reason, the announcers focused on where Cody Simon hit Hartman as he was going out of bounds but didn't focus on where the ball was once he touched out of bounds. Regardless, there was no indisputable video evidence showing he was short. If anything, the evidence actually confirmed the original spot.

Not that any of this matters. This one play isn't the reason we lost but I don't think we should let the refs off the hook for making a bullshit reversal.

Here's a video showing the play and replay.

 

[NumbersGuy0520]

QB sneaks are 80+% effective on 4th and 1. That’s aggregated across the league, now imagine with NDs line.

Plays that aren’t QB sneaks are about 60%.

I will die on the hill that, once we decide we’re going for it, every 4th and 1 should be a QB sneak regardless of whether or not the defense knows it’s coming. It’s just so damn hard to stop.