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[Hautian Domer]

Right, because they are flying in dirigibles.

Complaints were raised last year about having to play three "premier night games" in a row (Ohio State, Duke, and Louisville).
Traveling from SB to NY, back to SB, and then to LA is more warranted in my opinion.

 

[Hautian Domer]

I just want them to win another championship again. That really should be the end goal. Playing service academies on baseball fields or in Ireland or Mormons in Las Vegas isn't consequential to me. I don't know how the players feel about it in the grand scheme, but I really like having home games actually at home on campus for a variety of reasons. Even with ND's record in the Shamrock Series being unblemished, it isn't really anything that appeals to me at this juncture of my fandom.

I agree. I could do without the Shamrock Series. It isn't like we've plugged in elite opponents in these matches. The only two I went to were Miami and Wisconsin at Soldier Field. I know why they do it, but playing at Fenway, Yankee Stadium, or the Alamodome doesn't do it for me.

 

[Armyirish47]

Complaints were raised last year about having to play three "premier night games" in a row (Ohio State, Duke, and Louisville).
Traveling from SB to NY, back to SB, and then to LA is more warranted in my opinion.

If you think a 2 hour chartered flight to play a mediocre service academy at what will be essentially a home game, after playing a team that went 3-9 last year, before playing a fringe top 25 team on the road carries the same heft as three straight games against ranked opponents including 2 college GameDay visits then I'm going to say the complainer is more worried about narratives than the actual impact of modern air travel on performance.

 

[arrowryan]

 

[JamIrish]

Some odds for ND have come out...ND is 25-1 to win the title with one sportsbook having them as low as 14-1. Win total opened at 9.5 with juice on the over and has since been heavily juiced on over 9.5. (which is a good thing). ND has also opened as a slight underdog against A&M. Probably a ten win season(or better) is in the books.

 

[arrowryan]

Some odds for ND have come out...ND is 25-1 to win the title with one sportsbook having them as low as 14-1. Win total opened at 9.5 with juice on the over and has since been heavily juiced on over 9.5. (which is a good thing). ND has also opened as a slight underdog against A&M. Probably a ten win season(or better) is in the books.

Anything less than 10 regular season wins then Freeman ain’t it

 

[stpeteirish]

The new blocking rules have had a major negative effect on Army and Navy. In fact, they’ve run the ball less and threw it more in last few years.
And they suck at it.

 

[DCDomer]

Always liked him as a player for Sparty. Tough mf'er

 

[KPENN]

So Mickens is coaching the secondary now?

 

[Giddyup]

That or we’re gonna get a GA to take O’Learys coaching responsibilities

 

[lcaps20]

That or we’re gonna get a GA to take O’Learys coaching responsibilities

Both is what has been the common consensus on the beat

 

[notredomer23]

Stealing this from Michigan's board (Linked: HERE for 247 subscribers), but the SP+ rankings currently have 6 seed ND going 2-1 in the playoffs, beating PSU at home in a one score game, then beating Utah in the bowl playoff game, before losing to Oregon in a one score game in the Final 4.

I would take that in a heartbeat and also be incredibly frustrated to lose to Oregon.

 

[IrishSpartan]

Any news on a GA? Its interesting what way they will go on this, will it be someone connected to the program or a top-end GA that still has some time left.

 

[pumpdog20]

Nope, don't accept losing to Oregon. Championship, here we come!

 

[IrishSpartan]

Any news on a GA? Its interesting what way they will go on this, will it be someone connected to the program or a top-end GA that still has some time left.

Just read that it seems like Biagi is getting a bump and will be involved in the secondary. Loy mentioned he has experience here.

 

[NDohio]

Marty Biagi​

COACHING BACKGROUND​

2022 - Ole Miss - Special Teams Coordinator
2020-21 - Purdue - Special Teams Coordinator
2017-19 - North Texas - Special Teams Coordinator
2016 - Notre Dame - Special Teams Analyst
2015 - South Dakota - Cornerbacks
2012-14 - Southern - Special Teams Coordinator/Defensive Backs
2011 - Arkansas-Pine Bluff - Co-Defensive Coordinator

 

[Irish du Nord]

Just read that it seems like Biagi is getting a bump and will be involved in the secondary. Loy mentioned he has experience here.

Marty Biagi​

COACHING BACKGROUND​

2022 - Ole Miss - Special Teams Coordinator
2020-21 - Purdue - Special Teams Coordinator
2017-19 - North Texas - Special Teams Coordinator
2016 - Notre Dame - Special Teams Analyst
2015 - South Dakota - Cornerbacks
2012-14 - Southern - Special Teams Coordinator/Defensive Backs
2011 - Arkansas-Pine Bluff - Co-Defensive Coordinator

We’re gonna get some of that elite USD corner play in ‘24

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

Coach Bullough, unlock Jaylen Sneed and release the hounds.

 

[Lberry]

 

[KPENN]

And conference champions will have to win 4 in a row, you lose in a conference championship game and you have to win 4 in a row

 

[NDohio]

And conference champions will have to win 4 in a row, you lose in a conference championship game and you have to win 4 in a row

Right - ND gets their bye, it's just during conference championship week.

 

[lcaps20]

And conference champions will have to win 4 in a row, you lose in a conference championship game and you have to win 4 in a row

It's like everyone who isn't an ND fan hasn't quite figured this part out yet....

 

[NumbersGuy0520]

And conference champions will have to win 4 in a row, you lose in a conference championship game and you have to win 4 in a row

It’s not apples to apples.

For some the conference championship will be a risk free chance at turning their playoffs into a 3-game state.

Especially when the top 4 conference champions get byes.

If ND is 12-0 or 11-1, wouldn’t we rather the ability to play ourselves into a BYE. If we lose, we’re right where we are now.

On a rarer occasion a loss in the conference championship would keep us out of the playoffs, but more often than not it’d probably be beneficial to participate in.

I do think we’re making a mistake here.

 

[KPENN]

It’s not apples to apples.

For some the conference championship will be a risk free chance at turning their playoffs into a 3-game state.

Especially when the top 4 conference champions get byes.

If ND is 12-0 or 11-1, wouldn’t we rather the ability to play ourselves into a BYE. If we lose, we’re right where we are now.

On a rarer occasion a loss in the conference championship would keep us out of the playoffs, but more often than not it’d probably be beneficial to participate in.

I do think we’re making a mistake here.

And if you win your conference championship game you still have to win 3 playoff games in a raw which makes it… 4 in a row. The conference championship game gets turned into a de facto playoff game.

So if ND was a 5th seed you’d rather play a conference championship game, risk losing a home playoff game to maybe get a bye? That makes no sense.

 

[NumbersGuy0520]

And if you win your conference championship game you still have to win 3 playoff games in a raw which makes it… 4 in a row. The conference championship game gets turned into a de facto playoff game.

So if ND was a 5th seed you’d rather play a conference championship game, risk losing a home playoff game to maybe get a bye? That makes no sense.

If ND is 10-2 I wouldn’t.
If ND is 11-1 or 12-0, it’s a risk-free shot at the bye (loss to a playoff-to-be team in the conf championship and we’re still in the playoffs), and I absolutely would want the chance. Why wouldn’t you?

With our season win line at 9.5 with heavy juice on the over, there’s a very real shot it would be risk free at 11 or 12 wins. Lose and we’re where we were. Win and playoffs start with us only needing three wins.

You’re far oversimplifying the situation by pretending that “4 games is just 4 games” and ignoring the potential value in instances where we had a great season.

 

[KPENN]

If ND is 10-2 I wouldn’t.
If ND is 11-1 or 12-0, it’s a risk-free shot at the bye (loss to a playoff-to-be team in the conf championship and we’re still in the playoffs), and I absolutely would want the chance. Why wouldn’t you?

With our season win line at 9.5 with heavy juice on the over, there’s a very real shot it would be risk free at 11 or 12 wins. Lose and we’re where we were. Win and playoffs start with us only needing three wins.

You’re far oversimplifying the situation by pretending that “4 games is just 4 games” and ignoring the potential value in instances where we had a great season.

No I wouldn’t want to risk it. With the way conferences are you aren’t gonna luck into an Iowa. It’s gonna be a game against a top 5/10 team. If they lose they’re probably playing someone coming off of rest. I just don’t see any value in playing in a conference championship game vs having 4 playoff games.

 

[JD Irish]

And conference champions will have to win 4 in a row, you lose in a conference championship game and you have to win 4 in a row

The difference is that a conference championship game isn't necessarily a playoff elimination game for the loser.

And if you win your conference championship game you still have to win 3 playoff games in a raw which makes it… 4 in a row. The conference championship game gets turned into a de facto playoff game.

So if ND was a 5th seed you’d rather play a conference championship game, risk losing a home playoff game to maybe get a bye? That makes no sense.

It isn't a de facto playoff game if you can lose and still make the playoffs.

 

[Crazy Balki]

No I wouldn’t want to risk it. With the way conferences are you aren’t gonna luck into an Iowa. It’s gonna be a game against a top 5/10 team. If they lose they’re probably playing someone coming off of rest. I just don’t see any value in playing in a conference championship game vs having 4 playoff games.

Yep. Both the Big Ten and SEC are going away from divisions and it will now be the best 2 teams play in the conference title game.

You will avoid situations like Michigan coasting to a Big Ten title by beating a mediocre at best team like Iowa or Purdue, or a few years back in the SEC, when Alabama would play Florida or Missouri.

 

[NumbersGuy0520]

Yep. Both the Big Ten and SEC are going away from divisions and it will now be the best 2 teams play in the conference title game.

You will avoid situations like Michigan coasting to a Big Ten title by beating a mediocre at best team like Iowa or Purdue, or a few years back in the SEC, when Alabama would play Florida or Missouri.

This to me is even more of an argument for joining in.

Given the disappearance of divisions, if ND is in Big 10 conference championship for example, we almost definitely went 12-0 or 11-1. In this setting a loss in the conference championship keeps us in the playoffs, and a win gives us a bye. Risk free.

Otherwise our reward for sitting out conference championship weekend and penciling ourselves into the 5-12 may very well an OSU/Michigan that lost to the other on CCG weekend. Same with Alabama/Georgia. Rinse and repeat.

 

[jprue24]

Otherwise our reward for sitting out conference championship weekend and penciling ourselves into the 5-12 may very well an OSU/Michigan that lost to the other on CCG weekend. Same with Alabama/Georgia. Rinse and repeat.

so basically a CCG....?
If ND is good enough to get a bye, but scared of the 12 seed....c'mon...same same