General team info

[pumpdog20]

Welp, don't need to wait around til 5pm central now... wife just ordered two season tickets (the cheap $500 kind) for our anniversary.
LFG!

 

[T-Boone]

did anyone do the new season ticket package where you are guaranteed seats to all games but not to sit in the same seats ever?

It is intriguing to me for next season, but I have this feeling that it is going to be nose bleeds every game.

Are there bad seats at the stadium?

 

[condoms SUCk]

Are there bad seats at the stadium?

I'd image seasts in the south endzone infront of the "very larg screen" would be less than ideal. I always sit on the Northside so can't confirm.

 

[NDdomer2]

Are there bad seats at the stadium?

There certainly aren't bad views. Like I mentioned before the upper southeast corner is A) reserved for visitors allotment B) now houses the visiting band C) not able to view the jumbotron (if your a screen watcher) D) likely to lose your hearing from the jumbo speakers. Depending on weather E) not protected from wind

 

[NDdomer2]

Welp, don't need to wait around til 5pm central now... wife just ordered two season tickets (the cheap $500 kind) for our anniversary.
LFG!

Dude if you don't mind please keep me posted throughout season on where your tickets end up game to game.

 

[Reaper97]

Remember like two weeks ago in a thread (can’t remember which one), that we discussed ND’s win/loss record this year.

And some said 7-5 or 8-4, then I and a few others said that ND has more talent than 10, maybe 11 teams on the schedule & that ND should just show up & win 8 games?

Well, ESPN FPI agrees.

It has ND 5th in the nation & says they have at least an 80% chance of winning in 8 games. Two more they are expected to win (between 50-79%).

So ND has zero business going 8-4 or God forbid 7-5.
That would be a coaching meltdown.

ND’s % of winning each game (rounded):

OSU 17
Marshall 91
Cal 94
UNC 57
BYU 82
Stanford 93
UNLV 98
Syracuse 83
Clemson 40
Navy 96
BC 92
USC 66

Couple notes…

They love OSU. Give OSU a better chance of beating ND (83.5%) than ND beating Syracuse (83.4%).

Driskell loves him some Jurkovec. He keeps talking up BC possibly being the 3rd or 4th team ND plays, yet ND with the 92% win probability.

The big discussion on here was BYU and if they should be any match for ND. I said no because ND is better in the trenches & at the skill position. And it’s a neutral site game, so ND should roll them. FPI agreed, 82% for ND.

 

[IHateMarkMay]

Interesting they are giving Clemson a 60% chance to beat us, at home. I saw somewhere else (forgot where) that it was 50/50.

 

[IrishRugger2013]

I was surprised by the UNC and BYU percentages. In my mind I would flip them.

 

[KizerWilhelm]

Remember like two weeks ago in a thread (can’t remember which one), that we discussed ND’s win/loss record this year.

And some said 7-5 or 8-4, then I and a few others said that ND has more talent than 10, maybe 11 teams on the schedule & that ND should just show up & win 8 games?

Well, ESPN FPI agrees.

It has ND 5th in the nation & says they have at least an 80% chance of winning in 8 games. Two more they are expected to win (between 50-79%).

So ND has zero business going 8-4 or God forbid 7-5.
That would be a coaching meltdown.

ND’s % of winning each game (rounded):

OSU 17
Marshall 91
Cal 94
UNC 57
BYU 82
Stanford 93
UNLV 98
Syracuse 83
Clemson 40
Navy 96
BC 92
USC 66

Couple notes…

They love OSU. Give OSU a better chance of beating ND (83.5%) than ND beating Syracuse (83.4%).

Driskell loves him some Jurkovec. He keeps talking up BC possibly being the 3rd or 4th team ND plays, yet ND with the 92% win probability.

The big discussion on here was BYU and if they should be any match for ND. I said no because ND is better in the trenches & at the skill position. And it’s a neutral site game, so ND should roll them. FPI agreed, 82% for ND.

Okay... but this averages out to nine wins. So eight wins is not some huge impossibility, you just have to think ND is slightly worse than people think they'll be.

Keep in mind that while it's easy to see 91%, 94%, 93%, 98%, 96%, and 92% and say "well those are six wins!," you actually only have about a 2/3 chance of winning all of them. Throw in the 82% and 83% games and you're statistically more likely to lose at least one of your eight "guaranteed wins" then not.

 

[Reaper97]

Okay... but this averages out to nine wins. So eight wins is not some huge impossibility, you just have to think ND is slightly worse than people think they'll be.

Keep in mind that while it's easy to see 91%, 94%, 93%, 98%, 96%, and 92% and say "well those are six wins!," you actually only have about a 2/3 chance of winning all of them. Throw in the 82% and 83% games and you're statistically more likely to lose at least one of your eight "guaranteed wins" then not.

That’s not how the model works.
The model actually predicts 10 wins using their algorithm.
It’s not simply multiplying percentages as you are stating. In their algorithm, anything over 80% is a win. Anything less than 20% is a loss.
It’s not normal probability & statistics.

 

[KizerWilhelm]

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That’s not how the model works.
The model actually predicts 10 wins using their algorithm.
It’s not simply multiplying percentages as you are stating. In their algorithm, anything over 80% is a win. Anything less than 20% is a loss.
It’s not normal probability & statistics.

Idk what model you're talking about but FPI predicts 9.1 wins... exactly what I said.

2025 College Football Power Index - ESPN

View the 2025 College Football power index on ESPN. The FPI is the best predictor of a team's performance going forward for the rest of the season.

www.espn.com

Whatever algorithm you're referring to seems like bad statistical practice. If a team played a 12 game schedule and was given an 81% chance to win each game, they'd go 10-2 on average. Any algorithm saying "yep, that's a 12-win team" is inherently flawed.

 

[Reaper97]

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Idk what model you're talking about but FPI predicts 9.1 wins... exactly what I said.

2025 College Football Power Index - ESPN

View the 2025 College Football power index on ESPN. The FPI is the best predictor of a team's performance going forward for the rest of the season.

www.espn.com

Whatever algorithm you're referring to seems like bad statistical practice. If a team played a 12 game schedule and was given an 81% chance to win each game, they'd go 10-2 on average. Any algorithm saying "yep, that's a 12-win team" is inherently flawed.

You aren’t looking at it correctly.
It’s an individual game by game percentage predictor, not overall season record predictor.
So each game is mutually exclusive from the other games.
Their season predictor, which is what you are referring to, has ND at 9.1 wins.

In this model, they are taking each game independent from the rest and saying if it’s a win or loss based on the percentage of that individual game.

 

[KizerWilhelm]

You aren’t looking at it correctly.
It’s an individual game by game percentage predictor, not overall season record predictor.
So each game is mutually exclusive from the other games.
Their season predictor, which is what you are referring to, has ND at 9.1 wins.

In this model, they are taking each game independent from the rest and saying if it’s a win or loss based on the percentage of that individual game.

If FPI's season prediction is 9 wins, what is this model that supposedly says ten or higher?

Not to be a dbag but it sounds the "model" is just FPI releasing the numbers, and you and others choosing to interpret it one way. And I'm telling you, that's perfect fine on a discrete basis, but using those individual game predictions and then adding them up and getting a season total of wins is bad stats.

Think about it this way: pretend FPI put ND's chance of winning every single game this year at 51%. If I asked you how many games they'd win on average, what's the answer? Six. Easy. If I went game-by-game and said "is ND going to win this game? Yes or no?", how many games should you say yes to? Well, in each case, the best answer is yes. So you'd say it 12 times. But it'd be a terrible conclusion to say "...and therefore, ND will win 12 games."

That's an intentionally extreme example, but the principle still holds. That's why Ohio State is being given a 80+% chance to win every game, and FPI still predicts they take a loss before the season is over. Because 5-15% is fluke, but over 12 games, that fluke WILL happen on average.

 

[knight2017]

If FPI's season prediction is 9 wins, what is this model that supposedly says ten or higher?

Not to be a dbag but it sounds the "model" is just FPI releasing the numbers, and you and others choosing to interpret it one way. And I'm telling you, that's perfect fine on a discrete basis, but using those individual game predictions and then adding them up and getting a season total of wins is bad stats.

Think about it this way: pretend FPI put ND's chance of winning every single game this year at 51%. If I asked you how many games they'd win on average, what's the answer? Six. Easy. If I went game-by-game and said "is ND going to win this game? Yes or no?", how many games should you say yes to? Well, in each case, the best answer is yes. So you'd say it 12 times. But it'd be a terrible conclusion to say "...and therefore, ND will win 12 games."

That's an intentionally extreme example, but the principle still holds. That's why Ohio State is being given a 80+% chance to win every game, and FPI still predicts they take a loss before the season is over. Because 5-15% is fluke, but over 12 games, that fluke WILL happen on average.

I’m getting deja vu… I’ve literally had this same debate with Reaper about probabilities and independent events a year ago lol. Except it was about probabilities of recruits committing instead of win percentages.

 

[Some Irish Bloke]

Anyone who purchased tickets early through the two/three game packages or with season tickets have any idea how much the Cal and Stanford games are going for? Just trying to get an idea ahead of the general public sale tonight at 6ET. Thanks!

 

[ab2cmiller]

Anyone who purchased tickets early through the two/three game packages or with season tickets have any idea how much the Cal and Stanford games are going for? Just trying to get an idea ahead of the general public sale tonight at 6ET. Thanks!

Cal was:

Upper End $80
Upper Corner $85
Lower End $90
Lower Corner $100
Upper Side $125
Lower Side $150
Upper Prime $175
Lower Prime $250

 

[Some Irish Bloke]

Cal was:

Upper End $80
Upper Corner $85
Lower End $90
Lower Corner $100
Upper Side $125
Lower Side $150
Upper Prime $175
Lower Prime $250

Thanks man, I was out of town on Friday and just saw this. I did get 4 for Cal and 5 for Stanford.

I was pretty shocked to see Cal was slightly more expensive than Stanford, especially since Stanford is a prime time game and should be peak fall colors on campus in mid-October.

Glad to see the ticket office is upping their game for the public sales; the tiered pricing model adopted a few years back was much needed and now you can get two or three game packages to make it easier to lump games together. Unfortunately you can't hand-pick those (for example, you couldn't get Stanford AND Cal in a package), but still a nice option to have.

Can't wait to get back, we're getting close gents.

 

[pumpdog20]

I think Cal being a little more expensive is due to it being the Green Out game.

 

[texbender]

is there a link somewhere that sjhows the face value of tix for all games?

 

[clashmore_mike]

is there a link somewhere that sjhows the face value of tix for all games?

You should be able to find everything you need AT THIS LINK

 

[texbender]

You should be able to find everything you need AT THIS LINK

Thanks, but actually looking for a link that showed prices for all games, even if tix not available....like what WERE the face value of tix for Clemson?

 

[pumpdog20]

I think tickets that were available for Clemson ranged from $200-400

 

[NumbersGuy0520]

If FPI's season prediction is 9 wins, what is this model that supposedly says ten or higher?

Not to be a dbag but it sounds the "model" is just FPI releasing the numbers, and you and others choosing to interpret it one way. And I'm telling you, that's perfect fine on a discrete basis, but using those individual game predictions and then adding them up and getting a season total of wins is bad stats.

Think about it this way: pretend FPI put ND's chance of winning every single game this year at 51%. If I asked you how many games they'd win on average, what's the answer? Six. Easy. If I went game-by-game and said "is ND going to win this game? Yes or no?", how many games should you say yes to? Well, in each case, the best answer is yes. So you'd say it 12 times. But it'd be a terrible conclusion to say "...and therefore, ND will win 12 games."

That's an intentionally extreme example, but the principle still holds. That's why Ohio State is being given a 80+% chance to win every game, and FPI still predicts they take a loss before the season is over. Because 5-15% is fluke, but over 12 games, that fluke WILL happen on average.

This is the absolutely the correct way to look at the probabilities and expected value on our win total, ESPECIALLY if the events are mutually exclusive as Reaper claims.

This model expects roughly 9 wins on the season.

 

[pumpdog20]

Random thought that popped in my head after seeing Iowa has sold out all their games this year... I can't remember a time so many tickets were available to be had for a ND football game.

I remember needing to log on right at ticket release time to be able to scrap some tickets to the home opener against some scrub.

Can't believe the lack of hype for tickets considering a top 10 team and dynamic personality of the new head guy.

 

[Pops Freshenmeyer]

Random thought that popped in my head after seeing Iowa has sold out all their games this year... I can't remember a time so many tickets were available to be had for a ND football game.

I remember needing to log on right at ticket release time to be able to scrap some tickets to the home opener against some scrub.

Can't believe the lack of hype for tickets considering a top 10 team and dynamic personality of the new head guy.

Attendance is down all across CFB as part of a larger trend. In the FBS, last year's attendance per game was the lowest since 1981.

 

[arrowryan]

Random thought that popped in my head after seeing Iowa has sold out all their games this year... I can't remember a time so many tickets were available to be had for a ND football game.

I remember needing to log on right at ticket release time to be able to scrap some tickets to the home opener against some scrub.

Can't believe the lack of hype for tickets considering a top 10 team and dynamic personality of the new head guy.

I remember seeing an article last year that this is the trend throughout all of college football.

For Notre Dame specifically, there’s zero reason why Marshall and Cal tickets should be $90+. Also, the home schedule is pretty ass this year.

For me, I wouldn’t mind tailgating then just watching the game at home.

 

[ab2cmiller]

I remember seeing an article last year that this is the trend throughout all of college football.

For Notre Dame specifically, there’s zero reason why Marshall and Cal tickets should be $90+. Also, the home schedule is pretty ass this year.

For me, I wouldn’t mind tailgating then just watching the game at home.

The Marshall pricing begins to make sense when you tie it to the fact that the only way you could buy the Clemson game was if you purchased the Marshall game. Left a pretty bitter taste in my mouth.

 

[arrowryan]

The Marshall pricing begins to make sense when you tie it to the fact that the only way you could buy the Clemson game was if you purchased the Marshall game. Left a pretty bitter taste in my mouth.

And I remember when being a season ticket holder was rare and actually meant something. Now they’re almost begging people to buy them. I did for a year. They’re expensive and there’s basically zero benefit in doing it. I can buy “season tickets” on Stubhub for $900.

 

[pumpdog20]

I think Marshall tickets are down to $40. At least I got an email about it.

 

[SouthSideChiDomer]

Random thought that popped in my head after seeing Iowa has sold out all their games this year... I can't remember a time so many tickets were available to be had for a ND football game.

I remember needing to log on right at ticket release time to be able to scrap some tickets to the home opener against some scrub.

Can't believe the lack of hype for tickets considering a top 10 team and dynamic personality of the new head guy.

They make more money pricing the tickets so there is barely enough demand than pricing it so low that there is a ton of excess demand. So I think it has less to do with hype and more to do with simple economics, especially when also taking into account the price of staying in town for the weekend, which isn't as variable as the ticket price while also being more expensive.