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dublinirish · Mar 3, 2016

Irishcop said:
Does anyone know if any of ND'S current wide receivers can maybe match Will Fuller speed? I really wished Fuller would have stayed for his senior year. Such a difference maker with that speed.

nope. hence the staff's pursuit of demetris robertson..

Irishcop · Mar 3, 2016

koonja said:
No. He was the fastest WR in college football, and top 5 fastest players in all of college football. That's not a role you fill year to year, that's special, once in 5-year type of talent.

Yeah some of the sport talk radio in Atlanta have been talking about his 4.31 40 that he tan at the NFL combine.

Irishcop · Mar 3, 2016

dublinirish said:
nope. hence the staff's pursuit of demetris robertson..

Well than it sure would be nice to get DR. Either this year or next year or whenever he makes his college choice.

dublinirish · Mar 3, 2016

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dublinirish · Mar 3, 2016

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dublinirish · Mar 3, 2016

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Irish Insanity · Mar 3, 2016

It took him almost 2 days to reply....

FightingIrishLover7 · Mar 3, 2016

Irishcop said:
Does anyone know if any of ND'S current wide receivers can maybe match Will Fuller speed? I really wished Fuller would have stayed for his senior year. Such a difference maker with that speed.

I have no idea about 40 time (I'm sure no one is super close), but CJ Sanders gas got to be up there, and with CJ you're getting a guy that has crazy acceleration and lighting quick change of direction speed.

So, I could totally see him being able to reproduce Will's success of beating guys off the line with his double moves, etc.

But, obviously he'll be used differently than Will, formation wise.

Whiskeyjack · Mar 3, 2016

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Will Fuller ran a 4.53 in HS. 20 pounds heavier he ran a 4.32 at the combine. CJ Prosise ran a 4.71 at 190. At 220 just ran a 4.48</p>— Jamie Uyeyama (@jamieuyeyama) <a href="https://twitter.com/jamieuyeyama/status/705428353940111360">March 3, 2016</a></blockquote>
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#FireLongo

Luckylucci · Mar 3, 2016

I do think the injuries need to be looked at but Longo has definitely improved the overall strength and speed of the program from where it was under previous HC's

koonja · Mar 3, 2016

Whiskeyjack said:
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Will Fuller ran a 4.53 in HS. 20 pounds heavier he ran a 4.32 at the combine. CJ Prosise ran a 4.71 at 190. At 220 just ran a 4.48</p>— Jamie Uyeyama (@jamieuyeyama) <a href="https://twitter.com/jamieuyeyama/status/705428353940111360">March 3, 2016</a></blockquote>
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#FireLongo

Imagine what he'd have ran without Longo holding him back. I don't think he sets the record, but 4.28 is my guess.

ulukinatme · Mar 3, 2016

irishff1014 said:
I think would kill it there. But how many times did Oklahoma lose to Tulsa at home, get smoke by Navy and lose multiple times to Navy?

True, but to be fair that Tulsa team was better than usual, and they were coached by Todd Graham who has had Kelly's number. Some coaches just have an advantage over others, look at how Kelly has dominated Dantonio? One loss in four meetings I think, with the one loss coming on a flukey fake FG where officials missed two penalties. One of those MSU teams that was beaten went on to win the Rose Bowl too, and they lost to a Tommy led offense.

As far as Navy, I think we can let that one go. It was one loss, in Kelly's first year, and the loss was every bit as much Diaco's fault as it was Kelly's, if not more so. While we've had a few close games with them in two other years, we still found a way to win. It's not like this is our father's Navy team either, they will hang with just about anyone in most years.

Both those losses were in Kelly's first year. The team is much better now than they were back then. Better processes are in place, we're getting better recruits, development is at a high level, and confidence is booming. I would point to this past year and look at how the team persevered despite the injuries. I seriously doubt Stoops would have done better given the circumstances.

Shamrock Theories · Mar 3, 2016

FightingIrishLover7 said:
I have no idea about 40 time (I'm sure no one is super close), but CJ Sanders gas got to be up there, and with CJ you're getting a guy that has crazy acceleration and lighting quick change of direction speed.

So, I could totally see him being able to reproduce Will's success of beating guys off the line with his double moves, etc.

But, obviously he'll be used differently than Will, formation wise.

Maybe Adams? Lol.

Luckylucci · Mar 3, 2016

Just looking back, I said mid 4.3's and guessed 4.35 for Fuller's 40. He bested my best guess, lol.

Whiskeyjack · Mar 3, 2016

koonja said:
Imagine what he'd have ran without Longo holding him back. I don't think he sets the record, but 4.28 is my guess.

He would have been slower. Training explosive power via resistance bands is all the rage now. Except instead of sprinting with a tire tied to his waist, Fuller had Longo holding onto his ankles. He was literally holding him back.

Sherm Sticky · Mar 3, 2016

ulukinatme said:
True, but to be fair that Tulsa team was better than usual, and they were coached by Todd Graham who has had Kelly's number. Some coaches just have an advantage over others, look at how Kelly has dominated Dantonio? One loss in four meetings I think, with the one loss coming on a flukey fake FG where officials missed two penalties. One of those MSU teams that was beaten went on to win the Rose Bowl too, and they lost to a Tommy led offense.

As far as Navy, I think we can let that one go. It was one loss, in Kelly's first year, and the loss was every bit as much Diaco's fault as it was Kelly's, if not more so. While we've had a few close games with them in two other years, we still found a way to win. It's not like this is our father's Navy team either, they will hang with just about anyone in most years.

Both those losses were in Kelly's first year. The team is much better now than they were back then. Better processes are in place, we're getting better recruits, development is at a high level, and confidence is booming. I would point to this past year and look at how the team persevered despite the injuries. I seriously doubt Stoops would have done better given the circumstances.

Agree. Great post!

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dublinirish · Mar 4, 2016

Bogtrotter07 · Mar 4, 2016

Whiskeyjack said:
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Will Fuller ran a 4.53 in HS. 20 pounds heavier he ran a 4.32 at the combine. CJ Prosise ran a 4.71 at 190. At 220 just ran a 4.48</p>— Jamie Uyeyama (@jamieuyeyama) <a href="https://twitter.com/jamieuyeyama/status/705428353940111360">March 3, 2016</a></blockquote>
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#FireLongo

koonja said:
No. He was the fastest WR in college football, and top 5 fastest players in all of college football. That's not a role you fill year to year, that's special, once in 5-year type of talent.

dublinirish said:
nope. hence the staff's pursuit of demetris robertson..

Koon and Dubs, I agree with what both of you are saying : Will Fuller will be really hard to replace; and Demetrius Robertson is a good attempt. But, don't forget about ESB. Last year as a freshman he was described as having 'elite speed.' Whatever that means!

What Whiskey (as usual) points out is significant, a two-tenths of a second improvement of an already fast 40 time, with such a significant weight gain is astounding. As far as Longo goes, what is it they say? Don't throw out the baby with the bath water?

I am getting a real read that the high incidents of ligament tears is similar to the reason female athletes have more knee ligament tears than their male counterparts.

Remember, when you talk about gaining the kind of weight that ND football players have accomplished under Longo, coupled with an overall loss in body fat, there are a few areas where that muscle mass needs to increase significantly to support those increases.

One is 'super development' of the quadriceps. The thigh muscles, or extensors of the knee joint, and flexors of the hip.

Over development of the quads related to lesser development of the knee flexors, (hamstrings) can create a kinesiological situation where the knee is more prone to ligament tears, particularly the ACL. Early results from the ND independent investigation of the rash of knee and ankle injuries seem to support this conclusion.

We will see.

Irish#1 · Mar 4, 2016

Bogs has a very good point about development of the muscles. There's just not a lot you can do S&C wise to protect the ligaments in the knee. Rest assured, BK has meetings with Longo to understand the training program and discuss things like injuries. If Longo wasn't good at his job, I have to believe BK would have let him go by now.

Irish Insanity · Mar 4, 2016

Irish#1 said:
If Longo wasn't good at his job, I have to believe BK would have let him go by now.

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Bogtrotter07 · Mar 4, 2016

Irish Insanity said:
BVG says hi.

So do Harry, Mike, Mike, Mike, Bob, and Autry!

PANDFAN · Mar 4, 2016

dublinirish said:
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dublinirish · Mar 4, 2016

Notre Dame Spring Football 2016: Managing a One-Two Punch at Running Back - One Foot Down

Notre Dame Spring Football 2016: Managing a One-Two Punch at Running Back

Sring football opens up for the Fighting Irish on Wednesday, March 16th. To get ready for the shells and then pads we're making our way through the roster. Today, it's a unit that ran for a bunch of yards last year.

RUNNING BACK

Returning Snaps from 2015: Adams (338), D. Williams (44), Folston (7)

No Snaps Last Year: Brent

Lost Snaps: Prosise (461)

Early Enrollee: None

Summer Arrival: T. Jones, McIntosh

Breathing Room

A while ago during one of our scholarship posts I talked about how something had to give with all the players eligible to return at running back. If everyone had stayed there would have been 3 players going into 2016 expecting starter minutes and carries. All three could have come back knowing they've each gained at least 800 yards in a single season.

It would have been nice to have Prosise back nonetheless but his departure for the NFL clears room for Adams and Folston to carry the load and allow some younger backs to see the field in small doses. Prosise himself even mentioned in the lead up to the Combine that he may have been moved back to wide receiver and he wasn't too keen on that. So we move on.

Folston Under Yellow Flag

Tarean Folston may not be 100% for spring and even if he is that healthy there's little incentive to push him that hard during practice. Not that he can't improve but keeping Folston healthy and in-shape is more important than seeing how much higher his ceiling is in college.

The greatest beneficiary this spring should be Dexter Williams who is bound to get as much work as anyone as he looks to solidify himself as someone worthy of more than a couple touches per game. Williams flashed some enticing quickness and burst as a true freshman last fall but lacked the control and understanding to take advantage of his offensive line's blocking.

How they'll treat Josh Adams might be a bit trickier. If Folston isn't full go the depth isn't such that Adams can lollygag through spring without much work, either. Plus, this will be Adams' first spring practice and he has the ability to really improve and become a star on the offense. At the same time, you want to protect a valuable asset like this yet Adams should still get most of the first-team carries throughout spring and rest him when needed.

Stay or Go?

It feels like Justin Brent should be close to graduating by now but since he was able to sit out this past season it's important to remember he's still only a rising redshirt sophomore. The fact that he'll be participating in his third spring practice makes it feel like he's a veteran whose time is quickly running out, though.

Is it true that Brent's time is running out? That's difficult to say without knowing which position he's going to stick at now and in the future. C.J. Prosise is the exception to the rule that you can move a guy around multiple times and watch the player improve at each new position. Usually, moving someone back and forth is a waste of time.

Should Brent move back to receiver? Both wideout and running back need depth help in the spring so that's not much of a determining factor. There's been no question about Brent's physical abilities but he was rumored to have struggled a lot with the mental aspects at receiver prior to this move to the backfield last year. Is he ready to give it another shot at wideout?

If you do think his time is running out perhaps it doesn't really matter where Brent plays? He'll need a big jump at either position to move into a backup role and if that improvement doesn't occur we may be looking at one of the bigger disappointments from an offensive skill player in the Brian Kelly era.

Since we'd like to avoid that fate Brent will be one of the more intriguing prospects to watch this spring.

Irishcop · Mar 4, 2016

Brent would be more of a power back? I know he has pretty decent speed but he would be the biggest back ND has right?

OCIrish · Mar 4, 2016

Irishcop said:
Brent would be more of a power back? I know he has pretty decent speed but he would be the biggest back ND has right?

Um.....I'm thinking Josh Adams has the edge in size

Crazy Balki · Mar 4, 2016

OCIrish said:
Um.....I'm thinking Josh Adams has the edge in size

Not yet. Adams was listed at 212, whereas Brent is listed at 220, both 6'1 1/2.

Irish#1 · Mar 4, 2016

PANDFAN said:
max the cali kid only one wearing shorts and tshirt

I noticed that. I hope that's a statement to a renewed focus.

PANDFAN · Mar 4, 2016

very interesting and never saw anything about it....evan sharpley just stated in a response that

ND just hired a new performance specialist from overseas that is partnering with both the strength/conditioning staff and orthopedic trainers to bridge the gap better

Dr. Duncan French

https://www.gskhpl.com/about-us/meet-the-team/duncan-french/

koonja · Mar 4, 2016

PANDFAN said:
very interesting and never saw anything about it....evan sharpley just stated in a response that

ND just hired a new performance specialist from overseas that is partnering with both the strength/conditioning staff and orthopedic trainers to bridge the gap better

Dr. Duncan French

https://www.gskhpl.com/about-us/meet-the-team/duncan-french/

Can't hurt.

Irish#1 · Mar 4, 2016

koonja said:
Can't hurt.

Whadda ya think Koon. Cutting edge stuff from the euro's? Can we get your approval?

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