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Perhaps the handlers thought 22T over the super amazing allies was too lopsided.


That is the defense budget for the US that the US approves each year, not sure what that has to do with our allies. We would be approving that amount regardless
 

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That is the defense budget for the US that the US approves each year, not sure what that has to do with our allies. We would be approving that amount regardless
Our NATO partners have been historically cheap and freeloading the alliance. Recall 45 handing Merkel a bill for the US defense and pointing out the Germans were dumb for depending on Russia. A strong relationship with a weak alliance is not as good as a productive but weaker relationship with a stronger alliance. It’s only a matter of time before we see Islamic leadership try to move one of these “European” nations in a very different direction.
 

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Our NATO partners have been historically cheap and freeloading the alliance. Recall 45 handing Merkel a bill for the US defense and pointing out the Germans were dumb for depending on Russia. A strong relationship with a weak alliance is not as good as a productive but weaker relationship with a stronger alliance. It’s only a matter of time before we see Islamic leadership try to move one of these “European” nations in a very different direction.
European countries laughed when Trump urged them to quit their reliance on Russian energy during his first term. That bit them in the ass.
 

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Probably another one of his steps to get them to come around on Iceland, I mean Greenland.
He has a stutter.

He supposedly has the framework for a deal that will address security concerns with NATO support. Theyre’ talking about strategic locations, Golden Dome defense, etc. Hard to not see this as a win for security and our country. If the opposition has been reduced to “but he said this” then he is doing just fine.

European countries laughed when Trump urged them to quit their reliance on Russian energy during his first term. That bit them in the ass.
Our European allies have ran failed welfare states that have under contributed to the defense of our alliance and underperformed economically while opening the floodgates to migration and offering a case study in failed energy policy and grid management. Dems view them as some sort of gold standard because they have embraced climate ideology and globalist narratives and think our allies are somehow immune from criticism. Trump’s best accomplishment with NATO in 45 term was FINALLY giving them the finger and telling them to carry their own weight.
 

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He backed off that threat after meeting with NATO Secretary General Mark Rutte on Wednesday, saying in a Truth Social post that he would not proceed with the tariffs and announcing the pair had agreed to the “framework of a future deal” on Greenland.
 

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I applaud their foresight to make the Greenland purchase then. It's good to see an administration thinking to the future and not the present!

That said, it looks like I need to make new arrangements for retirement...and maybe I need to quit with the deep fake porn for a brighter tomorrow.
Or maybe it’ll be a giant version of Epstein island?

So many options honestly.
 

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He has a stutter.

He supposedly has the framework for a deal that will address security concerns with NATO support. Theyre’ talking about strategic locations, Golden Dome defense, etc. Hard to not see this as a win for security and our country. If the opposition has been reduced to “but he said this” then he is doing just fine.


Our European allies have ran failed welfare states that have under contributed to the defense of our alliance and underperformed economically while opening the floodgates to migration and offering a case study in failed energy policy and grid management. Dems view them as some sort of gold standard because they have embraced climate ideology and globalist narratives and think our allies are somehow immune from criticism. Trump’s best accomplishment with NATO in 45 term was FINALLY giving them the finger and telling them to carry their own weight.
We’re still the spending billions on the Ukraine war.

Trump hasn’t accomplished shit in that regard.
Our NATO partners have been historically cheap and freeloading the alliance. Recall 45 handing Merkel a bill for the US defense and pointing out the Germans were dumb for depending on Russia. A strong relationship with a weak alliance is not as good as a productive but weaker relationship with a stronger alliance. It’s only a matter of time before we see Islamic leadership try to move one of these “European” nations in a very different direction.
This “freeloader” argument is kind of dumb.

The post WW II deal was that the US provides the security blanket in exchange for the dollar being the global reserve currency.

Worked out pretty good for the US on the macro level for quite some time. Too bad the majority of financial gains that resulted were sucked up by the ultra wealthy who then insisted on de industrializing the US economy, running up huge deficits and engaging in completely pointless wars of aggression.
 

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We’re still the spending billions on the Ukraine war.

Trump hasn’t accomplished shit in that regard.

This “freeloader” argument is kind of dumb.

The post WW II deal was that the US provides the security blanket in exchange for the dollar being the global reserve currency.

Worked out pretty good for the US on the macro level for quite some time. Too bad the majority of financial gains that resulted were sucked up by the ultra wealthy who then insisted on de industrializing the US economy, running up huge deficits and engaging in completely pointless wars of aggression.
I would also argue Trump has worked more than anyone to try and end that war with Ukraine and keeping Ukraine armed and ending the Biden era restrictions on firing into Russia have been the right call.

Our alliances are only as good as our allies in the alliances. Those allies have gone to shit in several ways. I want them called out in forums like this.
 

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Yes the same deal that was in place already
Is it exactly the same? I thought there have been some restrictions that would be removed if this agreement gets signed?

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The proposed Greenland framework aims to update the existing 1951 U.S.-Denmark defense pact, granting the U.S. "total access" for the "Golden Dome" missile defense system and restricting Chinese/Russian mineral/military presence, potentially through Sovereign Base Areas (SBAs) like Cyprus, while the current deal allows wide access but less explicit control over territory and resources, with ongoing Greenlandic self-rule under Denmark; the key difference is the proposed framework seeks de facto U.S. control over key areas for defense and resource control, moving beyond the existing agreement's focus on general base access and Danish/Greenlandic consent.
 
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Is it exactly the same? I thought there have been some restrictions that would be removed if this agreement gets signed?

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I think mineral rights is added to this one too.

I can't believe people actually though we were going to invade Greenland like the Soviets invaded the US from the opening scene of Red Dawn in the 1980's 😆 😆
 

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I would also argue Trump has worked more than anyone to try and end that war with Ukraine and keeping Ukraine armed and ending the Biden era restrictions on firing into Russia have been the right call.

Our alliances are only as good as our allies in the alliances. Those allies have gone to shit in several ways. I want them called out in forums like this.
Argue all you want.

His results have sucked ass and his approach is fucking moronic.
 

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I think mineral rights is added to this one too.

I can't believe people actually though we were going to invade Greenland like the Soviets invaded the US from the opening scene of Red Dawn in the 1980's 😆 😆
Nobody thought masked federal agents would be gunning down women who are American citizens in the streets of Minneapolis or that there would be an attempt to overthrow the election in 2020.

Hilarious right?
 

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Nobody thought masked federal agents would be gunning down women who are American citizens in the streets of Minneapolis or that there would be an attempt to overthrow the election in 2020.

Hilarious right?
The death of Renee Good is not hilarious at all. It's a tragedy.

I know that a lot of people would think that you may get gunned down if you hit a federal agent with your Caron purpose. Especially if that same agent had already been hit and dragged 300 feet by another vehicle before.

But yes, storming the ice beaches of Greenland, which is 3 times the size of Texas with a population of less than Notre Dame stadium is a hilarious thought.
 
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Nobody thought masked federal agents would be gunning down women who are American citizens in the streets of Minneapolis or that there would be an attempt to overthrow the election in 2020.

Hilarious right?
Innocent 16 and 18 year olds from Charlotte were gunned down this month by an illegal from El-Salvador who was only on the streets because of an ignored ICE detainer. The 16 and 18 year old were not federal agents being attacked at that time. That's what gunned down means and that is what the agitators, sanctuary city supporters, and ICE haters are fighting for. They want these dangerous people in our country, released to the streets to gun down Americans rather than watch ICE detain and deport them. You clearly have a 4 year old comprehension of "gunned down" and a retarded/dangerous outlook on immigration policy.


If Trump won with 315k unverified votes being processed at once on an 11k vote margin with a city being not transparent in its process, Dems would have lost their minds like they did in 2016. Forget about the ballot stuffing policies pushed by blue states and now the huge discrepancies we are seeing in voter roles. Those of us alive in 2017 for the stupid Russia conspiracies saw election stupidity too.
The death of Renee Good is not hilarious at all. It's a tragedy.

I know that a lot of people would think that you may get gunned down if you hit a federal agent with your Caron purpose. Especially if that same agent had already been hit and dragged 300 feet by another vehicle before.

But yes, storming the ice beaches of Greenland, which is 3 times the size of Texas with a population of less than Notre Dame stadium is a hilarious thought.

A tragedy of her own making. These idiots all want to play with fire and think they are invincible and immune to laws. Eventually, someone is going to get burned by fucking around too far.

Who in the administration ever suggested storming the beaches of Greenland? Trump isn't the first, second or third president to eye Greenland and now he is doing something the activist autopen controllers didn't do in the last administration and looking out for our nations security.
 

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Innocent 16 and 18 year olds from Charlotte were gunned down this month by an illegal from El-Salvador who was only on the streets because of an ignored ICE detainer. The 16 and 18 year old were not federal agents being attacked at that time. That's what gunned down means and that is what the agitators, sanctuary city supporters, and ICE haters are fighting for. They want these dangerous people in our country, released to the streets to gun down Americans rather than watch ICE detain and deport them. You clearly have a 4 year old comprehension of "gunned down" and a retarded/dangerous outlook on immigration policy.


If Trump won with 315k unverified votes being processed at once on an 11k vote margin with a city being not transparent in its process, Dems would have lost their minds like they did in 2016. Forget about the ballot stuffing policies pushed by blue states and now the huge discrepancies we are seeing in voter roles. Those of us alive in 2017 for the stupid Russia conspiracies saw election stupidity too.


A tragedy of her own making. These idiots all want to play with fire and think they are invincible and immune to laws. Eventually, someone is going to get burned by fucking around too far.

Who in the administration ever suggested storming the beaches of Greenland? Trump isn't the first, second or third president to eye Greenland and now he is doing something the activist autopen controllers didn't do in the last administration and looking out for our nations security.
Yeah, there is a lot of Les Mis cosplaying going on. And people shouldn't be losing their lives to illegals. It's a tragedy.

Her life and it's ending was a tragedy, including placing more importance to illegal immigrants than her own children.
 

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China just had a major purge in its military ranks. About 50 generals have been arrested or are 'missing'. Many think a coup was either underway or Xi has gone full Stalin.
 

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China just had a major purge in its military ranks. About 50 generals have been arrested or are 'missing'. Many think a coup was either underway or Xi has gone full Stalin.
Gotta set their plans for Taiwan back. Too bad it failed
 

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She FA and FO. What's tragic is that Pols continue to push their constituents into continued harassment of Feds, who are only enforcing the laws of this land. Some will take it too far. More will die, of that I have high confidence.
What a pathetic statement.

No serious person would call that bullshit justified and no they’re not just “enforcing the laws of the land”.

These mother fuckers are so out of control that the local police and sherif have come out against what they’re doing and have stated that their off duty officers (all people of color btw) have been stopped and questioned by ICE in one case at gunpoint and asked to prove they’re citizens.



These out of control fucks just shot another US citizen.

What’s tragic is that this militarized bullshit doesn’t need to be happening in the first place.

But yeah that “bitch” got what was coming to her. USA! USA! Back the Blue. Blah blah blah.

Anybody trying to rationalize this bullshit is an asshole.
 
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What a pathetic statement.

No serious person would call that bullshit justified and no they’re not just “enforcing the laws of the land”.

These mother fuckers are so out of control that the local police and sherif have come out against what they’re doing and have stated that their off duty officers (all people of color btw) have been stoped and questioned by ICE and asked to prove they’re citizens.

These out of control fucks just shot another US citizen.

What’s tragic is that this militarized bullshit doesn’t need to be happening in the first place.

But yeah that “bitch” got what was coming to her. USA! USA!

Anybody trying to rationalize this bullshit is an asshole.
And the funny thing is they aren't even deporting that many more people. More yes, but not enough to justify exploding their budget hundreds of percent. $90+ billion over the next 4 year, but let's get our dicks hard about DOGE saving $2.6 billion lol.
Also their gains are mostly coming from deporting people with zero criminal record.
 

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What’s tragic is that this militarized bullshit doesn’t need to be happening in the first place.
None of this would be happening if-
1- Democrats had not opted for open border policy by funding and facilitating an invasion of our country
2- Democrats had not opted for sanctuary city policies
3- Democrats hadn’t thrown gaslighting rhetoric they can’t even walk back

When you make a mess to fix and then make that mess much harder to fix, it’s going to be messy. It’s worth that to enforce the law of the land and get the violent criminals that dipshit Biden let in to this country.

ICE is dealing with animals. Some are biting their damn fingers off. These are coordinated agitators often funded with supplies and tech to disrupt federal law enforcement. Unless it’s egregious, I’m going to give some benefit of the doubt to ICE.
 

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Also their gains are mostly coming from deporting people with zero criminal record.
By definition, someone who is here illegally most certainly is a criminal and has broken our laws. Just think, NONE of this would be happening if democrats hadn't opened the border to shift the demographics in their favor in order to gain congressional seats and future voters. Your side begged for this. Don't cry now about getting it.
 

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By definition, someone who is here illegally most certainly is a criminal and has broken our laws. Just think, NONE of this would be happening if democrats hadn't opened the border to shift the demographics in their favor in order to gain congressional seats and future voters. Your side begged for this. Don't cry now about getting it.
No they’re not. You’re an idiot. They’re also deporting a huge number of asylum seekers and people that are going through the immigration process. They’re scooping people up at immigration hearings. Those aren’t people that have committed crimes. People that were children when they were brought here aren't criminals.
 

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No they’re not. You’re an idiot. They’re also deporting a huge number of asylum seekers and people that are going through the immigration process. They’re scooping people up at immigration hearings. Those aren’t people that have committed crimes. People that were children when they were brought here aren't criminals.
This is one of the more irrational thoughtless things you've ever said in a long string of such no thinking irrational things. If you break our immigration laws to come here you have committed a crime, and you most certainly are a criminal in doing so. That's the definition of a criminal: someone who commits a crime. Violating our immigration laws is a crime.

Why do you think we have immigration laws? Why do you think every other country on the planet has immigration laws that say who can and can't come into their country, the conditions they must meet to do so, the process they must go through to do so, and so on. You violate those law, whether it's France, Namibia, Japan, Russia, Brazil, Mexico, or us, you've violated their laws, have committed a crime, and won't be allowed to stay. You just denying the facts or claiming idiotic patently false nonsense doesn't makes something so.
 
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