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Donald has been supportive of Israel, the first president to recognize Jerusalem as the capital. Apparently the dinner was a political stunt by West, Fuentes wasn't invited but came as a guest of Ye. Trump didn't know who he was, and apparently they changed the vetting process after the stunt: The inside story of Trump’s explosive dinner with Ye and Nick Fuentes
 

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What’s their alternative? Teaming up with people in the GOP who think Jews are scheming to have white folks replaced?


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Not sure which part of the bubble spread that interesting tidbit, but I doubt this message got in.

 

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Donald has been supportive of Israel, the first president to recognize Jerusalem as the capital. Apparently the dinner was a political stunt by West, Fuentes wasn't invited but came as a guest of Ye. Trump didn't know who he was, and apparently they changed the vetting process after the stunt: The inside story of Trump’s explosive dinner with Ye and Nick Fuentes
Given CNN's leanings it doesn't surprise me they wrote the article the way they did. I'm a little surprised NBC took a neutral approach given they have leaned left.

Sounds like Trump was set up, but you would think he'd have people around him to stop other people from joining the dinner until they did a quick review of everyone.
 

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Given CNN's leanings it doesn't surprise me they wrote the article the way they did. I'm a little surprised NBC took a neutral approach given they have leaned left.

Sounds like Trump was set up, but you would think he'd have people around him to stop other people from joining the dinner until they did a quick review of everyone.

Supporting Israel, and supporting Jewish people are a venn diagram. The center of each party supports both. The fringes of each party are frequently anti Israeli and anti Jewish.

On the right there are a lot of anti Semitic pro Israeli people. On the left there are a lot of anti Israel people who are fine with Jewish people in general.

On numerous surveys you see more anti Semitic people on the right, and especially in Europe anti-semitic violence has more frequently been a phenomena of the right.
 

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Not sure which part of the bubble spread that interesting tidbit, but I doubt this message got in.



Israel doesn't view Palestine civilians as equal human beings, yet for the hostage trade did they not trade them as 2 for 1 with Hamas? Based on that ratio Palestine civilians are worth twice what a Israel civilians are worth. I've got a hard time believing that Hamas' hostages are getting better treatment in their tunnels than Israel is providing to Palestinians.
 

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There's been a lot over the last month, but this was the latest propaganda piece. A boy that was serving time for terror related offenses was released in the exchange. He looked to be fine in the release video, using his hands and putting them in his pockets, however after the exchange he's being paraded by Hamas as having his hands brutally broken by Israelis while being "tortured in prison." It's sad this kid has been brainwashed and is being used like this.

 

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Supporting Israel, and supporting Jewish people are a venn diagram. The center of each party supports both. The fringes of each party are frequently anti Israeli and anti Jewish.

On the right there are a lot of anti Semitic pro Israeli people. On the left there are a lot of anti Israel people who are fine with Jewish people in general.

On numerous surveys you see more anti Semitic people on the right, and especially in Europe anti-semitic violence has more frequently been a phenomena of the right.
It's on both sides and regardless of frequency, it's wrong regardless if it's L or R. The biggest point being made is that while the left has touted itself as the all loving, all welcoming, they have shown that there are thousands of them that are anti-semantic.
 

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Why would a lovely terrorist organization like Hamas use innocent civilians as a human shield, committing war crimes? Oh, they always do. This was after WaPo, NYT, AP, NBC News, and others questioned the validity of Israel's claims that Hamas was operating beneath the hospital. This hospital has a history of being used by Hamas.


 

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Israel doesn't view Palestine civilians as equal human beings, yet for the hostage trade did they not trade them as 2 for 1 with Hamas? Based on that ratio Palestine civilians are worth twice what a Israel civilians are worth. I've got a hard time believing that Hamas' hostages are getting better treatment in their tunnels than Israel is providing to Palestinians.
None of us hate the media enough.

 

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The balls and stupidity of Blinken and Biden. Next time we decide to lay into the Middle East, they'll surely return the favor. The pro-Hamas wing of the party, Tiki torch people, are gaining influence in Washington.

 

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No extension of the hostage pause agreement so military actions will resume.
 

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Swing and a miss. It's really as simple as we shouldn't be funding the Marxist institutions.


You had to reach out to TRT and Al-Jazeera propaganda to make your anti-Israel points. Let me guess- Islamaphobia is the real problem!
Well. I’ll read the 190 and some odd pages and get back to you. Might take a bit but I have a suspicion that your cliff notes are off base.

Anyhow, I didn’t reach out to anyone and I find it interesting that you didn’t actually provide a rebuttal to any of the points made by actual Jews being critical of the State of Israel based on their understanding of the Torah and just waived it off as propaganda.

It’s a pretty well established fact that there are and always have been a good number of Jews, orthodox and otherwise who have and still do oppose the idea of a “State of Israel”. It’s also interesting that you conveniently left out and or failed to mention or provide a rebuttal to any of the arguments presented by the Jewish Historian Yakov Rabkin.

Anyhow, carry on with the Twitter outrage confirmation bias. Tally Ho!
 

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The balls and stupidity of Blinken and Biden. Next time we decide to lay into the Middle East, they'll surely return the favor. The pro-Hamas wing of the party, Tiki torch people, are gaining influence in Washington.



To do this Israel needs the moderate Arab countries to stay on their side and Iran not to unleash Hezbollah. They need to proceed in a way where they don't lose Public Opinion. That's what he's talking about.

Kissinger of course famously said

"The emigration of Jews from the Soviet Union is not an objective of American foreign policy," Mr. Kissinger said. "And if they put Jews into gas chambers in the Soviet Union, it is not an American concern. Maybe a humanitarian concern."

"I know," Nixon responded. "We can't blow up the world because of it."
 

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It's ridiculous how soon people forget this and try to erase it from history. The "Tik Tok" army supporting Hamas and the protestors attacking Jewish businesses are sick. They think they're supporting a just cause. Next they'll be making them wear gold stars.



Official statement from Hamas trying to look like the good guys. They don't have hostages, they have "detainees" that they've "humanely treated." They're not terrorists, they're resistance members, and they didn't target people at a concert or do anything malicious. Pathetic. People love to use softer language to downplay evil or negative situations. George Carlin said it best, soldiers used to be "shell shock" from the terrors of war, now it's PTSD because it sounds easier to handle.

 
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It's ridiculous how soon people forget this and try to erase it from history. The "Tik Tok" army supporting Hamas and the protestors attacking Jewish businesses are sick. They think they're supporting a just cause. Next they'll be making them wear gold stars.



Official statement from Hamas trying to look like the good guys. They don't have hostages, they have "detainees" that they've "humanely treated." They're not terrorists, they're resistance members, and they didn't target people at a concert or do anything malicious. Pathetic. People love to use softer language to downplay evil or negative situations. George Carlin said it best, soldiers used to be "shell shock" from the terrors of war, now it's PTSD because it sounds easier to handle.


The left hates Israel. It's been under the surface for years. Undeniable now.

 
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