Floyd Arrested

[loomis41973]

Dedicated?

More like corrupt.

Save that **** for U$C and the $EC.

 

[OchoShayneO]

^
burn

 

[irishpat183]

^
burn

Yeah, he burned you.

I don't care how big of a fan you are, can't let a kid get away with .19 and running a stop sign. Especially when he's had 2 priors....You'd be outta your mind to let it slide. And you'd probably be outta a job.

 

[OchoShayneO]

he added the dollar signs and everything

 

[tommyIRISH23]

I didnt say he should let him keep going. But maybe shut your radio off and call him a cab or something.

Then he takes a cab home, and ends up driving his friends car to get some pizza and kills someone. The cop loses his job and gets sued, a life is lost, and mike goes from DUI to vehicular homicide...because you wanted to give the super star a break.

Cops did that years ago, gave kids rides home/called cabs, and they were sued because ******* kids later drove another car into people/trees/lakes. Way to many people sue now, and blame everyone else for their mistakes. You can't be a "good guy" anymore.

 

[mgriff]

You're not going to find much support here for your thoughts. Most posters enjoy the higher standards the University offers. It's a fabric of the ND community, and I think Floyd deserves whatever is coming. The police officer handled the situation correctly, because justice is supposed to be blind.

 

[Mr. McGibblets]

I dont enjoy the higher standards. I just like the team. I didnt go to school there so I dont care how it makes me look as a fan. Im just an innocent victim of rooting for a school with rules.

Also, Ocho has a point whether you agree or disagree. Going back 4 years to the first incident I know of--There are police officers, military, dispatchers, fire men ages 18-35 who I personally know who police have said "Call someone to pick you up, dont move your car at all until the morning" and none of them got in trouble. So his point is not wild and far fetched so you dont need to bark at him like he is some horrible person. Some of them learned their lesson, some are still idots.

 

[Mr. McGibblets]

And no police officer has an obligation to cut a break. It would be a huge freaking favor and you cant expect it. He is not wrong for arresting Floyd. Ocho is just saying what he would do---although easier said then done.

 

[NDinL.A.]

I dont enjoy the higher standards. I just like the team. I didnt go to school there so I dont care how it makes me look as a fan. Im just an innocent victim of rooting for a school with rules.

Also, Ocho has a point. Going back 4 years to the first incident I know of--There are police officers, military, dispatchers, fire men ages 18-35 who I personally know who police have said "Call someone to pick you up, dont move your car at all until the morning" and none of them got in trouble. So his point is not wild and far fetched so you dont need to bark at him like he is some horrible person. Some of them learned their lesson, some are still idots.

OK, (and this goes to Ocho) so let's say Floyd gets let off by the cop, goes home and sleeps it off. You know what he's thinking? "I got off (possibly again); there's no reason to stop the party train from rolling along." And he gets hammered and gets in the car once again, but this time he gets into an accident and kills his buddies in the car, Cierre Wood, Robert Blanton, and Tyler Eifert. And in the other car, he hits and kills your brother, or your wife, or your nephew. This is not a far-fetched scenario, as drunk driving deaths happen all the time in the U.S.

You still happy that the cop who pulled him over let him slide and the Irish had their best player for a few more games?

And Ocho...he was F U C K E D UP (sorry mods, but it needs to be said for effect...I'll ask myself to delete it later LOL)) - he blew a friggin .19. He wasn't tipsy, he wasn't buzzed. .19 means he probably could barely even see much less drive straight. You don't endanger the lives of the community and the unsub (for all you Criminal Minds fans), nor do you risk the livelihood of your family just to cut the kid a break. I could see it if he were just above the legal limit, but .19???

Floyd got what he deserved, and hopefully now he'll check himself and get whatever help he needs to better himself as a man...

 

[irish1958]

I just love situational ethics; they are so convenient.

 

[JughedJones]

Insane behavior on this board right now.

Someone else said earlier and I agree 100%, we would be pointing and laughing our faces off if we read "The cop should have just let him off" on a USC/SEC board.

Get a grip people. ND football will be fine and hopefully Mike (who I still love) will learn a lesson.

 

[johnnykillz]

I hope our boy Riddick steps up. Goodman is the next shark. Toma is our Welker.

And TJ Jones is the new Floyd.

We got this.

 

[timm3117]

not because im a nice guy. because I want to win games next year. And which way would you be happier right now?

Wow! Winning games is that important to you? Michael could have killed himself, or god forbid someone else. Athletes are cut breaks everyday, even at Notre Dame, but this is not something he should be given a pass on just because he is a football player.

 

[loomis41973]

Is ND football more important than someones child, mom, dad?

Anyone who thinks the cop should have looked the other way should find another university to support.

 

[johnnykillz]

OMG drama queens.

Ocho said it. So now you have an outlet?
Do you need to harp on it for real...?

Does it make all of you feel better to chime in with paraphrased responses to a bull**** post, really?

 

[johnnykillz]

It would make me feel better to just whoop the **** outta someone...

I know you bitches don't want none...

 

[Mr. McGibblets]

OK, (and this goes to Ocho) so let's say Floyd gets let off by the cop, goes home and sleeps it off. You know what he's thinking? "I got off (possibly again); there's no reason to stop the party train from rolling along." And he gets hammered and gets in the car once again, but this time he gets into an accident and kills his buddies in the car, Cierre Wood, Robert Blanton, and Tyler Eifert. And in the other car, he hits and kills your brother, or your wife, or your nephew. This is not a far-fetched scenario, as drunk driving deaths happen all the time in the U.S.

You still happy that the cop who pulled him over let him slide and the Irish had their best player for a few more games?

And Ocho...he was F U C K E D UP (sorry mods, but it needs to be said for effect...I'll ask myself to delete it later LOL)) - he blew a friggin .19. He wasn't tipsy, he wasn't buzzed. .19 means he probably could barely even see much less drive straight. You don't endanger the lives of the community, the unsub (for all you Criminal Minds fans), nor do you risk the livelihood of your family just to cut the kid a break. I could see it if he were just above the legal limit, but .19???

Floyd got what he deserved, and hopefully now he'll check himself and get whatever help he needs to better himself as a man...

D@mn--didnt know there was a fellow Criminal Minds fan- great usage of unsub. Anyway, I am a strong a believer in past performance indicates future behavior so I dont believe lessons are always learned regardless of how much trouble one gets themself in.

Your point about DUI deaths is spot-on. DUI deaths are reality every day in Unites States, I think it averages every 30 minutes now (I know that because it used to be every 15 minutes and I was a part of that program at my school when I was younger).

But every tragic "what if" has a flip side. He gets out of punishment from the school, speaks out about DUI, quits boozing, Heisman, National Championship bing bang boom.

Free Michael Floyd!

 

[Mr. McGibblets]

Actually, one more thing. Everyone is so worried about making sure the University looks good. Them suspending him and upholding the almighty student handbook is not going to make those who hate all of the sudden write a tremendous article in a national publication praising the school. You can say you don't do the write thing for praise, you do it because it should be done. However, it seems that many are worried that if they dont do the "right thing" by suspending him then all of the USC and UM fans will talk trash.

Who cares? I would rather them not suspend him from the team and laugh at all of those other schools fans as Floyd grabs jump ball after jump ball. And no, I will not be one of those parents who will let their kid get away with everything. He is not my kid, he is the member of a team who I root for to WIN, not root for them because they follow the student handbook.

Nothing anyone says, quotes, replies will make me change the way I feel. Im just a cynical a**h**e I guess. Sorry. I accept the way ND runs their program but I wouldnt mind this one instance just going away. You help who you love--wait thats weird.

 

[johnnykillz]

Actually, one more thing. Everyone is so worried about making sure the University looks good. Them suspending him and upholding the almighty student handbook is not going to make those who hate all of the sudden write a tremendous article in a national publication praising the school. You can say you don't do the write thing for praise, you do it because it should be done. However, it seems that many are worried that if they dont do the "right thing" by suspending him then all of the USC and UM fans will talk trash.

Who cares? I would rather them not suspend him from the team and laugh at all of those other schools fans as Floyd grabs jump ball after jump ball. And no, I will not be one of those parents who will let their kid get away with everything. He is not my kid, he is the member of a team who I root for to WIN, not root for them because they follow the student handbook.

Nothing anyone says, quotes, replies will make me change the way I feel. Im just a cynical a**h**e I guess. Sorry. I accept the way ND runs their program but I wouldnt mind this one instance just going away.

I agree.

In fact, the only victory here seems elitist. You cannot articulate this to raising a child. The law's job is to reform his poor habits. The university's job is to provide him an education at cost.

That's my opinion.

 

[tommyIRISH23]

Actually, one more thing. Everyone is so worried about making sure the University looks good. Them suspending him and upholding the almighty student handbook is not going to make those who hate all of the sudden write a tremendous article in a national publication praising the school. You can say you don't do the write thing for praise, you do it because it should be done. However, it seems that many are worried that if they dont do the "right thing" by suspending him then all of the USC and UM fans will talk trash.

Who cares? I would rather them not suspend him from the team and laugh at all of those other schools fans as Floyd grabs jump ball after jump ball. And no, I will not be one of those parents who will let their kid get away with everything. He is not my kid, he is the member of a team who I root for to WIN, not root for them because they follow the student handbook.

Nothing anyone says, quotes, replies will make me change the way I feel. Im just a cynical a**h**e I guess. Sorry. I accept the way ND runs their program but I wouldnt mind this one instance just going away. You help who you love--wait thats weird.

I'd rather him miss 3 games, pay the ridiculous court fee's, go to counseling, spend 15 nights volunteering in the ER, and that be it.

The whole "Du Lac" is law, and the almighty book of rules is annoying.

 

[phgreek]

It would make me feel better to just whoop the **** outta someone...

I know you bitches don't want none...

...nice touch dumping the horn rims and going "Elton" on us...thats freakin' intimidating as hell....

LMFAO!

 

[johnnykillz]

But I'm sparkin a cig...

Thats the antimatter to whatever wasn't scary before.

Boo-yah!

 

[phgreek]

But I'm sparkin a cig...

Thats the antimatter to whatever wasn't scary before.

Boo-yah!

...Smoke 'em up Johnny

 

[sharksamardzija8345]

I think people are overreacting to the 0.19... breathalyzers are so sketchy.. I once blew a 0.17 and felt a little buzzed but I wasn't "hammered out of my mind and couldn't walk/see straight".. I've also seen people blow .06 one time then 2 minutes later blow a .10.. they're not very reliable in my experiences.. and no, this doesn't mean what Michael did was right, but I think they could have just taken him home instead of making it into a national story.. it seems a lot of people on here love the Notre Dame Res Life handbook and ND's image compared to Michigan's or USC's more than the Irish football team..

I'm with Mr. McGibblets on this.. I think he made some nice points and has a perspective I agree with

 

[timm3117]

I think people are overreacting to the 0.19... breathalyzers are so sketchy.. I once blew a 0.17 and felt a little buzzed but I wasn't "hammered out of my mind and couldn't walk/see straight".. I've also seen people blow .06 one time then 2 minutes later blow a .10.. they're not very reliable in my experiences.. and no, this doesn't mean what Michael did was right, but I think they could have just taken him home instead of making it into a national story.. it seems a lot of people on here love the Notre Dame Res Life handbook and ND's image compared to Michigan's or USC's more than the Irish football team..

I'm with Mr. McGibblets on this.. I think he made some nice points and has a perspective I agree with

Yeah just take him home. He only broke the law, and was way over the legal limit to drive, but just drive him home. So then he won't get in any trouble. If it were my son not a ND football player, would they just drive him home? Hell no they wouldn't! Some things in life are more important then football.

 

[Old Man Mike]

To the people who see this as "making the university look good": That is not the way my university has looked at life. Perhaps things have changed, I don't think so, but my university has looked at how we live our lives according to moral gospel principles. That means to try to do the right thing morally in the spirit of care for the souls/lives of each person.

When that requires being tough, that's our way. When that requires being disliked by others with amoral [I did not type immoral] outlooks on things, then we will endure their hate or mockery. These words are unpopular. Saying that we are trying to follow Christ's admonitions in the gospels is unpopular. It doubtless even makes some cringe.

But Notre Dame is not about "***-covering". This is about dealing with judgement and with love with someone who needs a hand right now to make his life better. I would really like to get this "conventional typical American" assessment of our university's behavior out of the posting...or better yet shoved where the Sun does not shine...charitably of course.

Because Notre Dame is a large organized place with several thousands of lives involved every day, things can't always be handled with family-intramural intimacy---only the family can do that. So we must have rules, and we must try to stand by them. Many people don't like that either apparently.

 

[Bogtrotter07]

I think people are overreacting to the 0.19... breathalyzers are so sketchy.. I once blew a 0.17 and felt a little buzzed but I wasn't "hammered out of my mind and couldn't walk/see straight".. I've also seen people blow .06 one time then 2 minutes later blow a .10.. they're not very reliable in my experiences.. and no, this doesn't mean what Michael did was right, but I think they could have just taken him home instead of making it into a national story.. it seems a lot of people on here love the Notre Dame Res Life handbook and ND's image compared to Michigan's or USC's more than the Irish football team..

Actually, you just proved the accuracy of the device. Someone who drinks should show a progression of intoxication and blood alcohol. Anyone want to guess how long the blood alcohol level increases after you stop drinking? In fact, if you want to beat the machine, drink a couple real fast, get in your car and drive home right away . . .

Has anyone expressed sorrow for a young man so gifted, one on the verge of throwing it all away? I just think about how I would feel if this were my son . . . My heart goes out to Michael and his mom.

And as to the rest: Who makes these athletes think that they don’t have to follow the same rules as the rest of us? Their parents? Their coaches? Or hundreds of thousands of screaming fans that convince them they are gods?

I mean if you drill down specifically on the athletes that have moved through ND in the last half dozen years or so, you could get into all kinds of conversations about how great they were or how bad they got screwed at the next level, or whatever. And you can talk all you want about partying, drinking, and whoring. But the fact of the matter is, you don't see the championship mentality. Athletes back in the day from Bobby Layne to Babe Ruth spilled more than our guy’s will ever drink, and Wilt Chamberlain had more women than we can feasibly count. But they put the business that got them there first. And they won championships! And they never forgot where they came from; they never became the kind of prima donnas that today's difficult athletes have become.

 

[phork]

.08 is just the recommended level. Of course its going to vary per person, but the law states that at .08 you are legally drunk. That doesn't mean you are off your rocker tipping over and passing out, it means by their scientific device they have found that .08 is the level at which an average person begins to function badly.

 

[timm3117]

I think people are overreacting to the 0.19...

.19 the same blood-alcohol level Leonard Little had when he killed the lady he hit in 1998. Dante Stallworths was .126 when he hit and killed a man. So please don't try to down play when someone is driving a car at twice the legal limit.

 

[RyCo1983]

.19 for the average person is falling over drunk as F***,
But a seasoned drinker like Mike could probably handle that better than the average person.

That's still a dangerously high BAC.